PB&J: Is This the Worst Weapon Can a Kid Can Bring to School?

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DCal430

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I know a guy who got himself hospitalized, because he kissed his girlfriend - who had a Snickers before. Whenever there was a risk of peanuts in the room, he warned everyone, that if he were to get red in the face, an ambulance was to be called immediately.

This works if your an adult. At a younger age, it is quasi-impossible to prevent children from ingesting poisons. By reducing the amount of poison in the environment, chances are higher that they will reach maturity. Home-schooling is not always a practicable solution.

Not to mention, that PB&J isn't healthy even for most of the non-allergic children.

But this is such a classically American response, that it is quite entertaining to follow. One should never give up luxury, even if another's life is at risk. Institutionalized egoism still going strong.

FYI his reactions was likely psychosomatic, because people cannot go into shock by what you described.
 

DCal430

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So many people have bought into this myth. The reactions many people claim to have around peanuts are NOT allergic reactions, but psychosomatic reactions brought on by histeria. Studies have proven this to be true.
 

_Rick_

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FYI his reactions was likely psychosomatic, because people cannot go into shock by what you described.

Why not?

Some peanut stuck between the teeth, which he gets in contact with, and voila.
Enzymes in saliva aren't magical, and a good kissing obviously has a risk of transmitting some detritus caught between teeth etc.

I'm not sure how someone can have an anaphylactic shock from psychosomatic factors, if he isn't even aware of them.
 

DCal430

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Why not?

Some peanut stuck between the teeth, which he gets in contact with, and voila.
Enzymes in saliva aren't magical, and a good kissing obviously has a risk of transmitting some detritus caught between teeth etc.

I'm not sure how someone can have an anaphylactic shock from psychosomatic factors, if he isn't even aware of them.

Anaphylatic requires ingestion of the item. He could have had a tingly feeling on his lips from a minor reaction, and his mind went into histeria mode. This documented as having happen.
 

bfdd

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Wah. Honestly fucking wah. If your kid dies because of some shitty mutation, sorry try again. Honestly it sucks, but what the fuck are we supposed to do? Get rid of peanuts? Fuck that and fuck those assholes who force this kind of shit on us. This is more reasoning why we should NOT have socialized forced education and MORE school choice.
 

WelshBloke

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So many people have bought into this myth. The reactions many people claim to have around peanuts are NOT allergic reactions, but psychosomatic reactions brought on by histeria. Studies have proven this to be true.

So the people I've treated that have had reactions were figments of my imagination?
 

Sepen

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My Grandson who is in the first grade has a serious peanut allergy. With that being said he has his own table at lunch and can invite one friend who obviously can't have any type of peanuts or products etc with him. He is fine with it and so are his parents. He is aware of it and so is the entire school.
 

waggy

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So the people I've treated that have had reactions were figments of my imagination?

you have treated a bunch of people who have peanut allergy's who were kissed by people who had something with a few peanuts and went into shock from it?
 

DCal430

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So the people I've treated that have had reactions were figments of my imagination?

Either they were lying or you are. You cannot point me to any study to claim what you say is true, but I can identify many which show you are wrong.

What you have as anecdotal evidence, what I have scientific studies.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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Either they were lying or you are. You cannot point me to any study to claim what you say is true, but I can identify many which show you are wrong.

What you have as anecdotal evidence, what I have scientific studies.

I have been confused by your multiple ambiguous claims. Are you saying that peanut allergy is fictional, or that anaphylaxis from inhaling volatile peanut products is fictional? Or that you're completely batshit crazy?
 
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bfdd

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I have been confused by your multiple ambiguous claims. Are you saying that peanut allergy is fictional, or that anaphylaxis from inhaling volatile peanut products is fictional? Or that you're completely batshit crazy?

Peanut allergy is real, what he is saying is that the crazy over reactions you see to it are mostly psychological. Many people who have "peanut allergies" don't really have them, they've been convinced so strongly that they do though or that peanuts are dangerous they believe they do. It's really a neat thing.
 

DCal430

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I have been confused by your multiple ambiguous claims. Are you saying that peanut allergy is fictional, or that anaphylaxis from inhaling volatile peanut products is fictional? Or that you're completely batshit crazy?

1. Peanut allergies are REAL
2. Some people with these allergies DO go into shock when they INGEST these peanuts.

3. No one goes into anaphylaxsis from a touch of peanuts or inhaling peanuts.
4. Many people who claim to have peanut allergies do not.
5. Many of the reactions people claim to have are infact psychosomatic.

All of these things are proven by multiple studies.

The biggest danger for people with actual peanut allergies is some foods are cooked with peanuts, or peanut oil and they are unaware of it. Not that people next to them are eating peanuts.

What is batshit crazy are claims people like you make without any scientific evidence.
 
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abtony

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Its for liability purpose only. Peanut allergy in its worst state and yes theres different levels of allergic reation. That if a kid touches another kid that eat peanuts of anykind say even before school he could have a allergic reaction. So in that case your all wrong. It doesnt matter. If my child was allergic to peanuts I would teach her to deal with it. I would make sure the school new and had the proper medical supplies if a reation occured. Thats the parents responcablity not the rest of the kids or the rest of the parents but mine. Thats how it should work. Take responsabilty for yourself and your kid dont ask the world to do it for you.
 

DCal430

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Its for liability purpose only. Peanut allergy in its worst state and yes theres different levels of allergic reation. That if a kid touches another kid that eat peanuts of anykind say even before school he could have a allergic reaction. So in that case your all wrong. It doesnt matter. If my child was allergic to peanuts I would teach her to deal with it. I would make sure the school new and had the proper medical supplies if a reation occured. Thats the parents responcablity not the rest of the kids or the rest of the parents but mine. Thats how it should work. Take responsabilty for yourself and your kid dont ask the world to do it for you.

It isn't for liability purposes it is due to histeria and believing in myths. There is no scientic basis for it.
 

alkemyst

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1. Peanut allergies are REAL
2. Some people with these allergies DO go into shock when they INGEST these peanuts.

3. No one goes into anaphylaxsis from a touch of peanuts or inhaling peanuts.
4. Many people who claim to have peanut allergies do not.
5. Many of the reactions people claim to have are infact psychosomatic.

All of these things are proven by multiple studies.

The biggest danger for people with actual peanut allergies is some foods are cooked with peanuts, or peanut oil and they are unaware of it. Not that people next to them are eating peanuts.

What is batshit crazy are claims people like you make without any scientific evidence.

Peanuts are a huge crop in the US, these genetic terrorists should be terminated at birth. An allergy like that is worse that spreading HIV.
 

tw1164

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A peanut free school seems foolish. My daughter has a peanut/tree nut allergy. She's had it for about a year. It sucks, I'm tired of reading every damn label. We're not a nut free home, but she knows what foods she can eat and which ones to avoid. Her school has a peanut free table for lunch that she has to sit at. If her class is having a party we make a cupcake for her at home, and send it with her that day. The school has an epipen for her if needed.
 

LumbergTech

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As the article stated there are some autisic kids who will ONLY eat PB&J for lunch, so what about them?

And just so I understand this correctly, does even being near peanuts trigger the allergic reaction? It's not just a matter or them not being able to eat it, correct?

The autistic kids will be cranky, but they won't die. Peanut allergies can be incredibly severe that is the main problem. Any direct contact with the protein contained in peanuts can have a severe reaction, but coming in contact w/ the scent is unlikely to trigger a reaction.
 

LumbergTech

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Wah. Honestly fucking wah. If your kid dies because of some shitty mutation, sorry try again. Honestly it sucks, but what the fuck are we supposed to do? Get rid of peanuts? Fuck that and fuck those assholes who force this kind of shit on us. This is more reasoning why we should NOT have socialized forced education and MORE school choice.

so that we can kill off the weaklings with peanuts? lol..sick individual....if there are certain foods which have particularly severe reactions I don't have any problem whatsoever with a school banning them.

Honestly who wants to have peanuts so bad that they dont care if their child's classmate dies? Just grow the fuck up and have some decency.
 

alkemyst

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The autistic kids will be cranky, but they won't die. Peanut allergies can be incredibly severe that is the main problem. Any direct contact with the protein contained in peanuts can have a severe reaction, but coming in contact w/ the scent is unlikely to trigger a reaction.

lol autism, getting the short bus kids on the big bus since 2000 or so.

I understand autism, but too many are holding those reins today when they are really just under developed due to their parents lack of dialing their drug and alcohol abuse down.
 

DCal430

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The autistic kids will be cranky, but they won't die. Peanut allergies can be incredibly severe that is the main problem. Any direct contact with the protein contained in peanuts can have a severe reaction, but coming in contact w/ the scent is unlikely to trigger a reaction.


That actually is a myth, direct contact does not cause a severe reaction, rash yes, but a severe reaction, NO. Severe reactions requires ingestion.
 

Red Squirrel

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I don't get the peanut allergy sillyness. When I was in school there was a few people that were allergic to peanuts, but it did not stop everyone else from bringing a peanut butter sandwich. Peanut butter jelly sandwiches are the foundation of a kid's lunch, how can you take that away? :awe: Some of the lucky classes did have microwaves so you could bring Mechelinas though.

I see no peanut signs on buses now too. It's gone way out of control.

The most illegal thing one could do in the US is take a kinder surprise, put bucky balls in it, and spread peanut butter on it and send it to a school. It would be worse than a bomb!
 
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