Intel just needs to release some 8 or 10 core unlocked K parts for around $400 and I'll gladly give them my $$, until then I'll keep my good enough 2700K. They want to move some units, then they need to make some cuts...
What do u mean by your finance capitalism comment?
Again, you cant spend what you dont have. And you have to prioritize.
To put things into perspective just look at the US median household income.
Pretty much, but we manage to brainwash even the poorest folks into dropping thousands a year on mobile phones and service, then a mostly useless tablet, then they complain about how the shitty $300 PC this is all they could afford (Usually a laptop) performs badly...
Yes they aren't in fact the volume growth may top 10% this year, the overall value of these shipments though will likely be lower, especially with devices like these selling for 150$ or less.Smartphone sales are not decreasing in volume according to analysts. Forecasts are that volume will increase by less than 10% this year, but will increase nonetheless.
And then you see the disconnect between hardware forums, like these, & the real world. News flash ~ upfront costs do matter a lot & so long as Intel keeps milking this market it'll only keep on getting worse, not better anytime soon D:
The other symptom of this is Apple doing quite well (brilliantly vs the market!) with their Macs - again that's people prioritising, if very different stuff to gaming computers! - and very sanely going a bit premium to get the right sort of thing in something they're reckoning to keep for quite a while.
Well they own roughly 90% of the x86 market so yes it indeed is their fault! They could've saved them $12 billion, that they threw at smartphones & tablets, & instead lowered prices on some of these hexa cores & quad cores btw the notebook market is even more depressing where we see the same dual core (plus HT) being shoved into i3, i5 & i7 (u) parts.And you show exactly that.
If upfront cost is all Intels fault and everyone waits to buy cheaper. We all know what company would benefit.
You only have to look at container freight levels before you know its more than a PC issue.
To put things into perspective just look at the US median household income.
Even better, the median income for a worker. It means half of the US is < $28000, and household wealth is more concentrated towards the upper half because generally high income marries high income and low income marries low income.
Yes because you only read that one sentence, amirite btw do you still defend 3 gens of non Z OC being shut down ?Even if Intel sold 100$ 6700K and 6950X at 200$, nothing would change. Because the buyers still cant afford it.
You are too narrow sighted if you think its all Intels fault. And you show exactly why the forum tends to be disconnected with reality.
Yes because you only read that one sentence, amirite btw do you still defend how 3 gens of non Z OC has been shut down ?
Oh it's not just me, the numbers will tell you that it's endemic & the precipitous fall is because AMD has no alternative atm otherwise some of these lost sales (x86) would've gone to them.You are obviously angry at a company. So good luck with that
That's what happens when wealth is generated by finance capitalism and not production. People cant afford it and companies dont invest.
No. We've reached the point where "old" technology is sufficient. Why replace when (1) what we have is reliant enough, and (2) is fast enough?
Even if Intel sold 100$ 6700K and 6950X at 200$, nothing would change. Because the buyers still cant afford it.
You are too narrow sighted if you think its all Intels fault. And you show exactly why the forum tends to be disconnected with reality.
Buyers can afford it. People used to pay a lot more for computers, used to be over $1k for a basic model, and people bought it because there weren't suitable alternatives.
Today there are many suitable alternatives including hanging on to the 3-year old system. Heck, even 5-6 year old systems are adequate. And nowadays we have tablets and phones competing.
Do you really need to bring this up? There are literally tons of reasons why the world is in a turmoil now ~If that was true, explain the container freight levels. Not to mention industrial output.
Do you really need to bring this up? There are literally tons of reasons why the world is in a turmoil now ~
OIL - the mid east is facing it's biggest crises in nearly three decades, all that free money which was floating around on the back of petro dollars is gone!
Debt laden China - probably the worst ticking time bomb you can imagine, if their realty & debt market capsizes then it'll make the Japanese meltdown, from the late 80's to early 90's, look puny in comparison.
Even worse off is Europe - debt & mountains of debt, need not say more!
You see a recurring theme? Debt & free/cheap money that all started with the Greenspan school of economics, in the early 2000's, & the oil boom from last decade.
Now think again, why would people spend more for less? It's one thing Intel's doing great i.e. not giving people what they want & that is the other half of the equation!
P>S> Just scour the CPU forum & you'll see the same recurring theme btw I don't foresee Intel selling a mainstream 6 core CPU for 300$ anytime soon, that hubris is what befits them & their bottomline !
Yeah, because Intel will just sit back and watch AMD taking back market share. They'll probably let them have the U.S. since lately they haven't been very interested in delivering them high end parts anyway.*If* Zen is half as good as some are expecting, I think AMD supporters are in for a rude awakening at what prices they will charge.
AMD cpus are cheap for a reason. Well, two actually. Poor performance and too high power use.
*If* Zen is half as good as some are expecting, I think AMD supporters are in for a rude awakening at what prices they will charge.