Why r u guys having this conversation now? It's been beaten to death in all the enthusiast forums. Intel themselves said they're not focusing on performance anymore....
How do you keep 2x gap between Core and Atom when Core isn't improving?
That gap only refers to IPC, if we consider the design parameter for single thread the gap is 3.5X.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2453365&highlight=
Which is quite contrary to what ShintaiDK claims, that the average joe doesn't care about core count. I disagree. They may not understand the usefulness of multi-cores versus IPC and ST performance, but they do understand the number 4 is higher than 1.
When Zen 8-core computers start showing up at Walmart, then we'll really know what Joe sixpack prefers.
They can buy 8 cores FX today. Doesn't move any. Zen wont do anything.
So if your theory would be true, the change would already be showing. In other words, "moar cores" doesn't sell PCs.
If that's true, why don't they use a single-core SKL with HT, in budget tablets and laptops?
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Shintai, you are starting to get some signature worthy quotes going here, especially if Zen is even a half decent product.
And obviously, the reason FX doesn't sell well, is not that it is 8 cores, but that the 8 cores are slow and use too much energy.
It's also a matter of availability.
How many different AMD notebooks are phisically available in stores?
Also marketing plays its role. Intel = good, AMD = less good is a common refrain that average Joe quickly learn to know.
That's why even if AMD was clearly better I'm not so sure AMD sales would be higher than 50% of market.
Utter BS and bad excuses.
So now you say "moar cores" wont increase sales.
Tell me what Zen will change that will somehow do what Intel cant do and change the course of the PC segment and go against the global trends.
Utter BS and bad excuses.
That gap only refers to IPC, if we consider the design parameter for single thread the gap is 3.5X.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2453365&highlight=
Another fact reinforcing the point: Mac sales have decreased by 12% in volume YoY (and by 9% in revenue). It's not the first time Mac sales decline YoY (e.g., Q3'13 vs Q3'12), but that's nonetheless worth noting.
I am guessing more people have learned how to build their own. Good for them.
Tell me what Zen will change that will somehow do what Intel cant do and change the course of the PC segment and go against the global trends.