nerp
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I am guessing more people have learned how to build their own. Good for them.
Nope. People just aren't buying computers, Mac or PC.
I am guessing more people have learned how to build their own. Good for them.
I'm hoping Zen will be good for notebook, otherwise it will be dead in the water.
Only 2 markets seem to matter now and that's servers and mobile, so you need to make a mobile server chip.
Not things intel can't do but doesn't do: lower price of HEDT systems
Zen could be 6-8 cores cheaper (maybe $50) than Broadwell-e and offer cheaper mainboards with enough PCI-e lanes. The market segmentation from intel with limited PCIe on 5820k is somewhat doubtful. The reason to go HEDT for me but be more PCIe lanes for CF/SLI and PCie SSDs and not core count.
If AMD can offer a HEDT-like platform (enough PCIe lanes) for $100 bucks less (CPU + mobo) at similar performance, that's a win. This $100 can give you a higher tier GPU (or CPU).
It's not sure but with broadwell-e intel doesn't seem to changes anything except offering a more expensive, additional 10-core SKU to the 6,6,8 core ones instead of 6,8,10 core and all with full PCIe enabled.
I'm hoping Zen will be good for notebook, otherwise it will be dead in the water.
Only 2 markets seem to matter now and that's servers and mobile, so you need to make a mobile server chip.
The statements about the gap in lenovo show a big problem. Windows tablets have a serious gap between atom and core m. All atom is good for is sub 200 or even sub 150.00 tablets. Even though there are expensive atom tablets the performance doesnt justify it. And core m starts really expensive. Something in the 250 to 400 dollar range with core m would be very attractive. But intel doesnt want to sacrifice margins, so I dont see it happening.
Tablets went down 14.7% YoY.
Unless the global economic crisis is resolved soon. It may stall the semiconductor industry for good.
Problem is economic crisis is fueled by both fundamental internal problems and geopolitics.
Mainstream proposed solutions for internal problems like social spending cut & tax cuts or more goverment spending, more debt are both completly not adressing underlying internal problems.
It is much more than that. 180 turn to Libertarianism, heavy goverment spending cuts, social cuts and tax cuts would also not cure the situation.The problem is Keynesian ideology to put it short.
You guys a are overthinking. Plenty of us make good money and aren't economically afflicted but have no interest in new PC clients because what we have is good enough.