Damn he sounds like a RepublicanAh, I get it. You're fine with exploiting these people for your own financial gain.
Damn he sounds like a Republican
Yes, he does, doesn't he? Funny how some are so far right that they overlap with those so far on the left, isn't it?
You just took moron to a new level with that comment.
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Probably best to close the roads in and out of AZ block the rails and stop all flights there.
Hey, we're making progress! A liberal has finally found a border he wants to enforce!
Not to mention endorsed peaceable secession as a legitimate remedy for irreconcilable ideological conflicts between the states!
If standing to financially benefit from this means I got "owned," I don't mind. You can continue hi fiving each other over it, as long as I continue to reap the benefits.
cheap food, exploiting people. slums, crime, high taxes, and more money out of your states, cities, county coffers. yup sounds like a excellent plan.
i guess the past 20 years isnt a good enough of a example of why illegals should be stopped. hell lets continue to let it happen for another 20!
Doing fine here As far as higher taxes, if someone wants to live in some air polluted central valley sh!thole and do hard work in the field all day so I can have cheap fruits and vegetables, the least I can do is help pay for them to go to the hospital when they get sick. Even with all the taxes and sky is falling crowd here, I am doing pretty well here in CA.
But you agree the border needs to be sealed, right?
Plus I have no problems with the illegals picking strawberries in the fields all day. Keeps my grocery bill low and CA agriculture industry cost competitive.
Doing fine here As far as higher taxes, if someone wants to live in some air polluted central valley sh!thole and do hard work in the field all day so I can have cheap fruits and vegetables, the least I can do is help pay for them to go to the hospital when they get sick. Even with all the taxes and sky is falling crowd here, I am doing pretty well here in CA.
Maybe you didn't get owned but you've pretty much discredited whatever positions you're pushing. You're basing your immigration policy on cheap agriculture? And what's more your willing to subvert the rule of law for said cheap agriculture? Wow.
The most ridiculous thing is that even if it's true agriculture is cheaper as a result of immigration, this cheapness is being paid for in other areas like public services. (And don't even pretend for a second these menial jobs generate enough taxes to pay for said services.)
Savings in grocery bills and agricultural business profits more than pay for increased taxes to pay for these public services.
I have serious doubts about your accounting there but what I find more interesting is you sticking to your cheap groceries platform. If cheap groceries is so important maybe we should just have fully subsidized grocery bills for all Americans?
Doing fine here As far as higher taxes, if someone wants to live in some air polluted central valley sh!thole and do hard work in the field all day so I can have cheap fruits and vegetables, the least I can do is help pay for them to go to the hospital when they get sick. Even with all the taxes and sky is falling crowd here, I am doing pretty well here in CA.
So you don't care that illegal aliens are exploited and often work for less than minimum wage? What about child labor? Most of these kids are also illegal, but hey if it means you can save $.10 on a head of lettuce, then it's all worth it right?
http://www.hrw.org/support-care
Why do you find it interesting? Do you stick to low tax platform? Well higher grocery bills would be an effective tax on me.
We have farm subsidies and food stamps too.
But there is going to be a net reduction in farming in US if there is not seasonal farm labor to pick it. Americans are more interested in sitting at home collecting ever extended unemployment checks than getting out there in hot, polluted Central Valley and picking veggies all day for minimum wage.
It's interesting because most people would consider it trivial compared to the rule of law or other ideological goals. We live in a wealthy society where food prices are really not an issue, especially for someone who professes to be as well off as yourself.
I also profess to be for progressive taxation, higher food prices are a regressive tax. Those would be ideological goals Not that those should outweigh kitchen table issues. Of course ideally we'd have some sort of legal way to do it, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Yea, cause they'll see you're brown and lock you up while investigating you. :hmm:
So the ends justify the means?
Why not keep the rule of law by arguing for a tax credit or more food stamps instead of ignoring people that ignore our borders and customs (as in border customs not cultural customs)?
How about we ask the kids if they want to go? Seems pretty sensible, right?
Yes, he does, doesn't he? Funny how some are so far right that they overlap with those so far on the left, isn't it?