PC on 1080p LED TV looks horrible at 1080p.

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KingFatty

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But do some of the TVs just freak out about receiving HDMI signals and try to "pretty-ify" the HDMI signal that messes up how a computer output looks, so you have to dig through all the settings in the TV (which some TVs are terrible at hiding what option controls what aspect of the display properties) to try to guess at what snazzy TV feature to disable to get the HDMI computer output to look the way it should.

But I could see how some TVs would just disable all the snazzy modifiers when they get a "PC" signal, whether from VGA or DVI, so you get clean output without fuzzy enhancements.

But HDMI, the TV won't necessarily automatically disable the enhancement features because that could be a signal from a DVD player that stands to benefit from the enhancements.
 

Sabrewings

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But do some of the TVs just freak out about receiving HDMI signals and try to "pretty-ify" the HDMI signal that messes up how a computer output looks, so you have to dig through all the settings in the TV (which some TVs are terrible at hiding what option controls what aspect of the display properties) to try to guess at what snazzy TV feature to disable to get the HDMI computer output to look the way it should.

But I could see how some TVs would just disable all the snazzy modifiers when they get a "PC" signal, whether from VGA or DVI, so you get clean output without fuzzy enhancements.

But HDMI, the TV won't necessarily automatically disable the enhancement features because that could be a signal from a DVD player that stands to benefit from the enhancements.

When using a DVI->HDMI adapter, the TV doesn't know whether it's connected to a PC or a Blu-ray player, so his point is still moot. Electrically they're the exact same. All an adapter does is put an HDMI connector on one end and connects the appropriate wires to a DVI connector.
 

hawtdawg

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You can think whatever you want to think, but my comprehensive real world experience has shown me that the image quality of hdmi-to-hdmi connections from a pc or laptop to a tv has very often been bad. I've seen it on over two dozen setups. There is obviously some kind of ugly rescaling going on. The text looks simply bad. There will be bands of dark spots and bands of blurry spots, it just looks horrible, even after fiddling with every goddam setting on the system for hours. By going from DVI to hdmi, I am able to resolve that issue without messing around with settings for hours. So as a rule, if you dont want to waste hours or days trying to figure out what in the frack is going on and why the text over hdmi-to-hdmi looks so bad, then you just avoid hdmi-to-hdmi if at all possible. If it works great for you on your setup, then good for you, but you aint gonna sit there and tell me that all the crap I've seen over the years isnt a real issue.


It's not a real issue. I've used PC to TV over HDMI I don't even know how many times (I calibrate televisions as a hobby), aside from maybe setting overscan and output levels, there's not much to it. I strongly suspect user error on your part.
 
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It's not a real issue. I've used PC to TV over HDMI I don't even know how many times (I calibrate televisions as a hobby), aside from maybe setting overscan and output levels, there's not much to it. I strongly suspect user error on your part.

^^^ I had no problems other than just using overscan and increasing the slider one notch and my tv is from a cheaper brand.
 

iiiankiii

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You can think whatever you want to think, but my comprehensive real world experience has shown me that the image quality of hdmi-to-hdmi connections from a pc or laptop to a tv has very often been bad. I've seen it on over two dozen setups. There is obviously some kind of ugly rescaling going on. The text looks simply bad. There will be bands of dark spots and bands of blurry spots, it just looks horrible, even after fiddling with every goddam setting on the system for hours. By going from DVI to hdmi, I am able to resolve that issue without messing around with settings for hours. So as a rule, if you dont want to waste hours or days trying to figure out what in the frack is going on and why the text over hdmi-to-hdmi looks so bad, then you just avoid hdmi-to-hdmi if at all possible. If it works great for you on your setup, then good for you, but you aint gonna sit there and tell me that all the crap I've seen over the years isnt a real issue.

Damn, sucks for you. You might be in the minority here. Something about your setup is screwed up. Direct HDMi to HDTV have been fine on ALL my PCs and the DOZENS of HDTVs I've tried it on.
 

Dave3000

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HDMI is basically trash. Always has been. Use a dvi to hdmi cable. Difference is night and day on every LCD tv I've ever owned.

I have a monitor with an HDMI and a DVI input. When I connect my HDMI switch to the DVI input of my monitor using a HDMI-to-DVI cable, blacks look dark gray, giving a washed out image through my Roku 3 which is connected to the HDMI switch but the image quality from my PC does not look washed out. When I connect my switch with an HDMI cable to my monitor's HDMI input then the image does not look washed out on my Roku 3 but by default my PC's image quality looks washed out and I have to force Full Range RGB through the video driver's Control Panel to get rid of the washed out image. Also my Xbox One's image quality looks fine if it is set to RGB standard in the settings but if I choose Full Range RGB in my Xbox One, everything is too dark. If I use my monitor's DVI input instead then my Xbox One's image quality will look washed out with RGB on standard and look right with RGB on Full Range. I also tried out another monitor in the past with HDMI input and it would show washed out image (blacks look dark gray and whites don't get very white) through the HDMI using my Roku 3 connected to it.

So the question is, is my monitor's HDMI input programmed internally differently than its DVI input? Is the HDMI input of my monitor set to (16-235) internally and no way to change that?
 

tweakboy

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That is why its called TV. The fonts will be fudged up too, Thats why they sell what is called a PC Monitor.... which will give rich fonts and all that jazz and less lag mode,, thank you.
 
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