[PcGameshardware] The Witcher 3 Benchmark

[desprado]

In Short to max out Witcher 3 including gamework u need GTX Titan X to play at 60 fps on 1080p.

Good news for AMD owners is that running well AMD too.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/

 

[StinkyPinky]

Not great benchmarks. Hairworks effectively makes the game unplayable.

 

[raghu78]

In Short to max out Witcher 3 including gamework u need GTX Titan X to play at 60 fps on 1080p.

Good news for AMD owners is that running well AMD too.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/

You can insert the charts using the Insert image in the toolbar. useful for people who want just to know how the cards perform.

 

[desprado]

You can insert the charts using the Insert image in the toolbar. useful for people who want just to know how the cards perform.

Plz do that for me i really dont know how to insert those chart.

 

[gamervivek]

Why no gtx980?

 

[raghu78]

Plz do that for me i really dont know how to insert those chart.

cannot access that page right now. will do when I get back home :thumbsup:

 

[Silverforce11]

Wow, look at how much 780 tank, the 960 is quite a bit faster.

Kepler is dead, long live Maxwell!

R290X matching a highly boost 970 model is also very nice to see PrjRed did not neglect AMD performance.

Here's the bench at ultra minus NV features (Hairworks & HBAO+). Orange = 1080p. Yellow = 1440p.

The 780 & 770 is cut off, both are below the 960!!

Here's the bigger chart 1080p only:

That 780 Jetstream is no slouch, reviews show its ingame boost clocks are ~1.175ghz out of the box. It's sad to see it destroyed by a lowly 960/285.
The Phantom 780Ti also has a very high factory OC.

 

[Head1985]

GTX960 faster than GTX780
LOL

 

[raghu78]

GTX960 faster than GTX780
LOL

This is Nvidia you are talking about. "The way the consumer is meant to be played." :whiste:

Infraction issued for trolling.
-- stahlhart

 

[imaheadcase]

Lets rewind these post to before the latest driver was released..see if things change.

 

[desprado]

Wow, look at how much gtx770 tank, the 960 is quite a bit faster.

Kepler is dead, long live Maxwell!

R290X matching a highly boost 970 model is also very nice to see PrjRed did not neglect AMD performance.

Here's the bench at ultra minus NV features (Hairworks & HBAO+). Orange = 1080p. Yellow = 1440p.

The 780 & 770 is cut off, both are below the 960!!

Here's the bigger chart 1080p only:

Direct Compute.

 

[ShintaiDK]

280, 280X is also being beaten by 285 and down with the 770. Not surprising when games get more advanced and the old uarchs tanks in their shortcomings. GCN 1.0 is just as poor as Kepler.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

280x on par with a 780, and both beaten by the 960 and 285, very strange.

Wonder if I should even bother with this driver, only maxwell optimisations in it by the looks of it.

GCN 1.0 is just as poor as Kepler.

No, if a 280x is on par with 780 it's not as poor as kepler.

 

[caswow]

280, 280X is also being beaten by 285 and down with the 770. Not surprising when games get more advanced and the old uarchs tanks in their shortcomings. GCN 1.0 is just as poor as Kepler.

funny you mention kepler and gcn 1.0 while avoiding the elephant in the room. 780 and 280x were never in the same class of gpus

 

[desprado]

Look like developers,AMD and Nvidia dont give dam about old gpus.

 

[Silverforce11]

Direct Compute.

But GameWorks features are OFF. They should not impact performance.. but they do. Its the same stunt in Project Cars where a 960 is matching 780Ti and the 780 is left eating dust.

People assume Kepler had inferior Compute, but what does that even mean? Because during the GCN v Kepler battle, things like Global Illumination, TressFX, Snow Physics, Forward+ via compute, all ran very well on Kepler once NV updated their drivers.

Suddenly Kepler tanks in GameWorks titles and its compute? Nonsense. Titan X isn't even special with compute, hence no new Tesla/Quadro on GM200. Maxwell is gaming focused for efficiency, remember?

Also note the 780Ti v R290X, that model is a highly OC 780Ti. We know even now in neutral games, they are ~= reference v reference. How the hell does a 780Ti that boosts to 1.2ghz out of box lose that badly to a R290X?

This is clearly neglect or neutered on purpose.

 

[raghu78]

Wow, look at how much gtx770 tank, the 960 is quite a bit faster.

Kepler is dead, long live Maxwell!

R290X matching a highly boost 970 model is also very nice to see PrjRed did not neglect AMD performance.

Here's the bench at ultra minus NV features (Hairworks & HBAO+). Orange = 1080p. Yellow = 1440p.

The 780 & 770 is cut off, both are below the 960!!

Here's the bigger chart 1080p only:

That 780 Jetstream is no slouch, reviews show its ingame boost clocks are ~1.175ghz out of the box. It's sad to see it destroyed by a lowly 960/285.

This is a disaster for Kepler owners. Whats worse is this is a Nvidia Gameworks title. You expect Nvidia cards to do better than AMD cards. Not anymore. A 780 Ti at 1098 mhz losing to R9 290 at 1000 Mhz. Luckily I am not a Kepler owner otherwise I would have been really pissed.

So basically you need a Titan-X for 60fps at 1080p Ultra without Hairworks. The question is does the game merit such GPU grunt. Are the graphics mindblowing. I don't think so. I would like other people to chime in too.

 

[zlatan]

But GameWorks features are OFF. They should impact performance.. but they do. Its the same stunt in Project Cars where a 960 is matching 780Ti and the 780 is left eating dust.

Resource management. Now with the new GPU-arch and GPUs, they don't need to focus on Kepler or Fermi. It is not cheap to write driver routines for three basically different GPU-arch. Even AMD don't do it, and they focus only for GCN.

 

[ShintaiDK]

280x on par with a 780, and both beaten by the 960 and 285, very strange.

Wonder if I should even bother with this driver, only maxwell optimisations in it by the looks of it.

Its not strange at all. Its just about weak points in the uarchs.

No, if a 280x is on par with 780 it's not as poor as kepler.

You obviously forget the GTX770 as well. And that the GTX780 non TI never was a fast card.

funny you mention kepler and gcn 1.0 while avoiding the elephant in the room. 780 and 280x were never in the same class of gpus

Same applies here.

 

[Silverforce11]

This is a disaster for Kepler owners. Whats worse is this is a Nvidia Gameworks title. You expect Nvidia cards to do better than AMD cards. Not anymore. A 780 Ti at 1098 mhz losing to R9 290 at 1000 Mhz. Luckily I am not a Kepler owner otherwise I would have been really pissed.

That's 1098mhz base, its similar to the Ghz Edition from Gigabyte, these models hit >1.2ghz out of box boost.

It's a trend that has gotten progressively worse to a point where I feel sorry for 780/Ti owners, I would feel incredibly cheated at these tactics to encourage upgrading to Maxwell.

 

[casiofx]

280, 280X is also being beaten by 285 and down with the 770. Not surprising when games get more advanced and the old uarchs tanks in their shortcomings. GCN 1.0 is just as poor as Kepler.

Maybe because of tessellation? 285 & 290s are known to have better tessellation performance compared to tahitis.
Hopefully High settings can push the fps to 60 while not losing too much image quality.

 

[Silverforce11]

Resource management. Now with the new GPU-arch and GPUs, they don't need to focus on Kepler or Fermi. It is not cheap to write driver routines for three basically different GPU-arch. Even AMD don't do it, and they focus only for GCN.

It can't be a simple case of resource management, because NV isn't lacking in $.. its something people would expect from AMD, but to abandon Kepler so soon.

The strange thing is this kind of result ONLY happen in NV GameWorks sponsored games. In neutral games, the 780Ti still reign at the top, as fast or faster than 970 and way faster than the 960.

So I would say due to this, its not a simple case of neglect, since recently released neutral or even AMD sponsored games, run very well on Kepler.

This is a case of active neutering in GameWorks titles.

 

[zlatan]

Maybe because of tessellation? 285 & 290s are known to have better tessellation performance compared to tahitis.
Hopefully High settings can push the fps to 60 while not losing too much image quality.

Witcher 3 is not using much tessellation with Hairworks off. It's more like a register pressure issue.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Maybe because of tessellation? 285 & 290s are known to have better tessellation performance compared to tahitis.
Hopefully High settings can push the fps to 60 while not losing too much image quality.

Its not the only weak point.

 

[casiofx]

That's 1098mhz base, its similar to the Ghz Edition from Gigabyte, these models hit >1.2ghz out of box boost.

It's a trend that has gotten progressively worse to a point where I feel sorry for 780/Ti owners, I would feel incredibly cheated at these tactics to encourage upgrading to Maxwell.

It's weird, 770 -> 780 performance difference is so small while 780 -> 780Ti is really big difference. 780 -> 780Ti ain't even have that much difference in CUDA core count (25% more than 780) vs 770 -> 780 (50% more than 770)