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tential

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Downloaded the game and will install tomorrow. Curious to see how it looks visually when my roommate plays it. I dunno whether it was digitalfoundry or gamers nexus or whatever, but they mentioned the draw distance is very nice and makes for very visually detailed scenes when you're overlooking a large area which is something that is interesting.

I just checked out the NeoGaf PC Screenshot thread just to see how people were taking SS of FO4, and man, the game looks ugly and people agree.

On the other hand, I was first in like to complain about Anno 2205's performance, but that game certainly looks good. Definitely will get it at some point.
 

PhonakV30

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oh with my computer (Athlon X2 7850 dual core 3Ghz, HD5770 at 1000Mhz, Res = 1440*900 , 6GB DDR2 800) I was able to play Crysis 3 , at lowest setting , very smooth.now I can't play Fo4?

The game was barely playable at high settings with medium textures (lowest available setting) and low godrays.

whoa!!! what kind of game Engine is? No low texture ???
 

Erenhardt

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Resolution options seem very limited.
Anyone had a success running this turd on 4:3 or 21:9 display?
Running it in windowed mode - the way its meant to be played? C'mon, Really nvidia?

I guess I will run youtube playthorugh on the unused part of the screen.
 

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Resolution options seem very limited.
Anyone had a success running this turd on 4:3 or 21:9 display?
Running it in windowed mode - the way its meant to be played? C'mon, Really nvidia?

I guess I will run youtube playthorugh on the unused part of the screen.

See if this helps

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551069501&tscn=1447077828

How to add 4:3 support.
Note: this is essentially the same fix as is present for 21:9. But just so it is explicit I have put it in its own section.

To have this game run in 4:3 simply open Fallout4Prefs.ini in your documents (C:\Users\[name]\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\), and change the following lines to how they are below:

For borderless windowed mode:
bTopMostWindow=1
bMaximizeWindow=1
bBorderless=1
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=XXXX
iSize W=YYYY

Where XXXX is whatever your vertical resolution is aand YYYY is whatever your horizontal resolution is.

For fullscreen mode:
bTopMostWindow=0
bMaximizeWindow=0
bBorderless=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=XXXX
iSize W=YYYY

Where XXXX is whatever your vertical resolution is aand YYYY is whatever your horizontal resolution is.

Next do the same for the second Fallout4Prefs.ini located in wherever you insalled steam then steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Fallout 4.

Currently the hud will not work correctly, but this is a good start and hopefully the hud can be fixed (i'll look into it).
 

Erenhardt

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Sadly, the hud doesn't work properly with it, as well as not showing lockpiking UI. Saving game each time you want to lockpick, quiting it, chainging ini files to windowed, picking locks, saving, exiting, changing back ini files to full screen, and starting game back up would be a major pain in the...

Also, who can tell me what is wrong with the picture below:

thanks nvidia...
 

Erenhardt

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My settings are maxed. The thing that is wrong is on your screenshot aswell, but not exactly in the same place as on mine.

It wasn't NVidia who developed the game. But the hate from Red Team is legendary. No wonder you cant separate it.
I thought nvidia helped beth develope this game. Wasn't there a partnership between the two?

It has something to do with lighting, and as far is I know it is nvidia who put their fingers into it.
 

Techhog

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My settings are maxed. The thing that is wrong is on your screenshot aswell, but not exactly in the same place as on mine.


I thought nvidia helped beth develope this game. Wasn't there a partnership between the two?

It has something to do with lighting, and as far is I know it is nvidia who put their fingers into it.

Yep, that's how GameWorks works...
 

ShintaiDK

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My settings are maxed. The thing that is wrong is on your screenshot aswell, but not exactly in the same place as on mine.

Your settings doesn't look maxed, far from.


I thought nvidia helped beth develope this game. Wasn't there a partnership between the two?

It has something to do with lighting, and as far is I know it is nvidia who put their fingers into it.

I think you confuse giving assistance and developing the game. If you have any issue with a game. You can only blame the developing company.

All the flaws in AMD Evolved games isn't AMDs fault either.
 

Erenhardt

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Your settings doesn't look maxed, far from.
All on ultra.

I think you confuse giving assistance and developing the game. If you have any issue with a game. You can only blame the developing company.

All the flaws in AMD Evolved games isn't AMDs fault either.

One could say, lighting and reflections are not the same thing (they are really). So there is other volumetric magic going on:
Standing with back facing dark corner:

Same spot, back facing dark corner, but looking from different perspective:


So I guess it is cameraman's shadow, or more likely anti-light (there can't be no shadow when there is no light source) emanating and casting on the character...
One could say he is wearing latex suit (but still, not a light source or reflective surface around), but with the shirt at the start of the game it is very much the same. Maybe they have latex t-shirts in the future

^Those are nvidia libraries, not assistance.
 
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Techhog

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Your settings doesn't look maxed, far from.




I think you confuse giving assistance and developing the game. If you have any issue with a game. You can only blame the developing company.

All the flaws in AMD Evolved games isn't AMDs fault either.

The flaws with the closed source additions to the games that are developed entirely by AMD would be... if they existed.
 
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Head1985

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Is your system stable 24/7 with ram at 3ghz? Skylake may have some room to grow as DDR4 becomes cheaper and faster.

Yes it is and i have already more results from that test scene.Download is here http://uloz.to/xxfqHqjH/save9-d4c40935-4865616461-commonwealth-010715-20151113170618-19-2-fos
Important thing is FOV must be at default!(default is 80 BTW)
Also max details are important.lower resolution if needed, but this scene is super cpu heavy.Anyone can add more results.

6700k 4.5Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 +gtx970 70fps
6700k 3Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 + gtx970 54fps
Xeon 6core sandy bridge 4.3ghz quad channel DDR3 1600cl9 + gtx760 52fps
4670k 4,7Ghz 2400DDR3 cl11 +gtx970 52fps
2600K 4.5Ghz 1600DDR3 cl9 +gtx670 49fps
I7 4820K 4,2Ghz quad channel DDR3 1866 + r9 290 28fps
AMD FX 8370E 4,5GHz 1600DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 22fps

AMD with bad cpu overhead cant compete even with i7 4820k
 
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SPBHM

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I don't think you can reasonably expect to play a AAA 2015 title with 1GB VRAM. The technology has moved on beyond even 2GB at this point so a 1GB is a relic. It's like complaining that modern software runs slow on your Athlon 3800 with 1GB RAM.

my intention was just to share my findings which seem to be the same psolord was doing and we basically saw the same thing, not really complaining,

are you really comparing an old single core CPU with 1GB of ram to graphics cards with 1GB of ram and capable enough GPUs?

NV and AMD are still selling gaming capable 1GB cards like the 750 and 260X 1GB models, no to mention the 7850 1GB which is as fast as the PS4 GPU, and the many thousands of people still running capable DX11 cards like the 560s, 570s, 6800s playing new games.

as I mentioned, the other "AAA" titles I tried played fine with 1GB (witcher 3, project cars, battlefront beta, dragon age inquisition and so on), and the behavior I described is "odd" to say the least all the other games seemed to be happy to load all or most of the vram, and with some compromises to image quality ran smoothly, I think Bethesda could improve things with a patch, but I understand that their focus is not on this side of things (consoles and 2GB cards is their target and they also have a lot of work to do there, if they intend to support their product properly),

oh with my computer (Athlon X2 7850 dual core 3Ghz, HD5770 at 1000Mhz, Res = 1440*900 , 6GB DDR2 800) I was able to play Crysis 3 , at lowest setting , very smooth.now I can't play Fo4?



whoa!!! what kind of game Engine is? No low texture ???

indoors I think the GPU performance will be a big limiting factor even with the lowest settings, but the worst part will be the vram for sure.

also a dual core like this one will probably drop it under 15FPS on some areas, so, I suppose you could try and play it, but it's probably best to wait and hope for some optimization patches (unlikely, but for skyrim for example some patch greatly improved CPU performance by adding SSE support after a few months, I think they can fix the vram usage if they want to) or plan an upgrade.
 

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I should note that I was able to play Skyrim at low setting and 30fps stable but due to nature of game I uninstalled.For me , this game was boring.I played All series of COD and BF.atm I play GW2 with medium setting at Res : 1680*1050.Also Rift.now I am moving to Phenom II 945( my mobo supports CPU up to Phenom II X4 945).the only game that i couldn't play was Dragon Age Inquisition.extremely heavy CPU intensive!
 

tential

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So my roommate is playing on my rig.
So far, it's looked meh until getting outside. The large draw distance makes those scenes great. Sometimes it feels like an old game but overlooking a large area is cool.

I've noticed the lighting bugs you're seeing. Meh. What do you expect tacked on features that you don't code are hard to edit.

I only turned God rays to low. Left every at ultra as recommended. 980ti sli should handle 4k quite well in this game anyone playing at 4k and want to comment please?
 

MajinCry

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Anybody tried changing bNvGodraysEnable=1 to 0 in Fallout4.ini? See if it gives ya a performance boost.
 

Erenhardt

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So my roommate is playing on my rig.
So far, it's looked meh until getting outside. The large draw distance makes those scenes great. Sometimes it feels like an old game but overlooking a large area is cool.

I've noticed the lighting bugs you're seeing. Meh. What do you expect tacked on features that you don't code are hard to edit.

I only turned God rays to low. Left every at ultra as recommended. 980ti sli should handle 4k quite well in this game anyone playing at 4k and want to comment please?

Draw distances are good, and it probably is what kills amd. Lots of draw calls filling single thread quickly.

Going back to the lighting gimpworks libraries:
Have you seen this pimped up beds- you know with light ground effects?


Its volumetric baby! Come take a ride!:wub:
 

tential

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Draw distances are good, and it probably is what kills amd. Lots of draw calls filling single thread quickly.

Going back to the lighting gimpworks libraries:
Have you seen this pimped up beds- you know with light ground effects?


Its volumetric baby! Come take a ride!:wub:

Maybe it does hurt AMD a lot. I'm not having any issue though. Ultra everything as per the Recommended settings when I launched the game. Turned down Godrays to Low though. Been at 60 FPS although I do see some weird dips/stutters at times. Otherwise, I do enjoy the draw distance a lot. The lighting quirks, I've seen a number of times and my roommate only had the game on for a couple of hours. I dunno how they didn't notice it on their first playthrough of internal testing.

Otherwise, game isn't something technically amazing. But the way the game setting is, it benefits highly from the increased draw distance to give that post apocalyptic feel.

Anyone running this at 4K?
 

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Maybe it does hurt AMD a lot. I'm not having any issue though. Ultra everything as per the Recommended settings when I launched the game. Turned down Godrays to Low though. Been at 60 FPS although I do see some weird dips/stutters at times. Otherwise, I do enjoy the draw distance a lot. The lighting quirks, I've seen a number of times and my roommate only had the game on for a couple of hours. I dunno how they didn't notice it on their first playthrough of internal testing.

Otherwise, game isn't something technically amazing. But the way the game setting is, it benefits highly from the increased draw distance to give that post apocalyptic feel.

Anyone running this at 4K?

Played 6+ hours today at 4K DSR on my TV with adaptive backlighting, runs pretty well almost everywhere on Ultra, low godrays. Steady 60 FPS here as well, anything in the boston commons or city'd areas framerates do get wonky and gameplay/movement suffers moderate stuttering. Though 1440p also had this problem as well.

Had been playing on 1440p DSR previously, noticable detail increase on character models, overall sharpness to distant objects/terrain, and great shadows.
 

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You find it ridiculous only because you are trained to think drivers need to be released every launch. yet there is no glaring advantage to doing so besides maybe trying to fight gameworks.

I am not making any performance conclusions from the game because its simply graphical manure. Its rubbish in looks. All that is warranted here is saying whether or not performance from a card is good enough, and for AMD that is the case.
Well . . . yeah. If your business is selling video cards, and your one main competitor is releasing drivers that optimize their products' performance on Day 1 for at least AAA games, then I am trained to think that you too should have drivers that optimize your products' performance on Day 1. Because in business, "right now" is a hell of a lot more attractive to customers than "maybe someday".

it's a bethesda game. at this point, they can release a total turd and it will still sell. just look at how well yearly cod games sell should give you an idea of what I am talking about
Although Bethesda moved $750,000 of product (retail value) on launch day, we had enough info released to know it was anything but a turd. If it isn't as pretty as, well, all other AAA titles, it certainly has other strengths to compensate.
 

PhonakV30

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Ok I installed and everything with Low setting and 4x Tessellation , 2x Anisotropic filter level , Texture quality : performance , I can play smooth and i think it's around 20fps to 40fps.
Game is really ugly!.even Crysis 3 with low setting is much better than Fo4.this is game 2015?!

Edit : I noticed there is console , any command for show fps ?
Edit 2: Allright I downloaded Fraps and Installed.

http://i68.tinypic.com/15qchep.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/35a21b8.jpg

Game is playable on my system:
Cpu : Athlon X2 7850 : 2800Mhz ( without overclock)
GPu : AMD HD5770 runs at normal clock.925Mhz.
Ram : 6GB DDR2 800
Res : 1440x900
OS : windows 10 build 10240

Edit3 : I forgot to mention it , Res is borderless not fullscreen.
 
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