PCI Geforce 6200 128mb on chiefvalue for $28!

[russr]

How does this card compare to an ATI 9800Pro 128mb?

 

[BIGFOOTPI]

depends- at lower resolutions and settings the 9800pro would be about 60-80% faster, but as you raise resolution and detail/ AA/AF/etc the 9800pro pulls away, as much as 3times faster at high res and aa/af (probably more since the 9800pro is full AGP, so this card will be even a little slower because is on PCI bus)

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: BIGFOOTPI
depends- at lower resolutions and settings the 9800pro would be about 60-80% faster, but as you raise resolution and detail/ AA/AF/etc the 9800pro pulls away, as much as 3times faster at high res and aa/af (probably more since the 9800pro is full AGP, so this card will be even a little slower because is on PCI bus)

So you're saying it's pretty close?

 

[neothe0ne]

Oh crap. Newegg upped the 6200 PCI to $36? And ChiefValue doesn't accept PayPal. Wow did I get screwed over by hesitating...

 

[Auric]

You shan't be limited to PayPal payments (transfers) if you get their ATM/Debit card since it is also accepted as a MasterCard credit card.

 

[unclebud]

"is this going to be better than my onboard geforce 6150?"

it will suck more power and create more heat for sure

 

[MadOni0n]

damnit.. this was perfect for me. i just needed a pci card to let my bro play counterstrike source at low settings... too bad its sold out

 

[Sonikku]

Well, I'm sure Nividia would be happy you supply you with the countless number of FX 5200's they insist on flooding the market with.

Ugh.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Nick5324
Great for a cheap Dell box that comes with integrated or an X300.

X300 is likely better.

BTW, this would also work if you have a laptop with a docking station that lets you use PCI graphics, well you could get this 6200.

 

[LurkingInNC]

Slightly off topic, but if anyone knows off the top of their head and wouldn't mind sharing the info:

How would an AGP XFX 128MB DDR Geforce 6200 compare to this PCI card? (my setup: MSI KT3 Ultra2 MB with 4x AGP support, 1.6+ Athlon CPU overclocked to 1.6 actual, 1GB memory)?

I'm asking because I've got one ready to install on my machine. There is so much specific info in this post w.r.t. the PCI card (particular games, etc.) that it would be useful to know how much of it might apply to my new card as well.

 

[LW07]

Originally posted by: LurkingInNC
Slightly off topic, but if anyone knows off the top of their head and wouldn't mind sharing the info:

How would an AGP XFX 128MB DDR Geforce 6200 compare to this PCI card? (my setup: MSI KT3 Ultra2 MB with 4x AGP support, 1.6+ Athlon CPU overclocked to 1.6 actual, 1GB memory)?

I'm asking because I've got one ready to install on my machine. There is so much specific info in this post w.r.t. the PCI card (particular games, etc.) that it would be useful to know how much of it might apply to my new card as well.

That AGP 6200 will probably perform about the same, probably a bit better, but It'll probably perform the same.

 

[Fallen Kell]

It really just depends on what else you have going on your PCI bus and partly how much data needs to get passed to your card. You will be limited to 127.2 MB per sec on the PCI bus to the graphics card. Now with the card having a decent cache on card, it is going to depend on how much graphics data is needed that is not able to be kept in the cache on the card.

An 8x AGP port will allow up to 2034.4 MB per sec to be transfered to the card, BUT I do not believe we even come close to that number even in the most intense games. In fact, I do not believe that much more then 2x AGP is really utilized by graphics cards that have a decent amount of on-board memory. The whole point of that increased speed was to be able to utilize the system memory for your graphics card memory and not have any memory on your graphics card. This was because integrated video could then get a decent performance boost by having a system memory set asside (set by the BIOS setting called "AGP Aperture Size") .

Again, the reason for that huge boost in bandwidth to the cards were for allowing the memory to be removed from the cards. It was a good idea for the low end systems, but for higher end 3D systems, it just wasn't good enough due to the latency involved in this type of setup. Having 128MB of onboard video ram makes a huge difference in the amount of texture lookups and effects processing. Thus limited the need for the large bandwidth for the card.

The reason we are now moving to PCI-express is to have a system wide bus replace integrated into the motherboard. This bus is for other devices as well, not just a graphics card only like AGP. We didn't need it for the higher bandwidth to the cards, but for the overall higher bandwidth of the system itself. PCI-express 1x slots allow 250MB per sec bandwidth. Well it is really 500 MB per sec if you count the fact that it is full duplex unlike AGP or PCI which is single duplex (in otherwords the PCI-express slots can communicate in both directions at once 250MB per sec to the card and 250MB per sec back to the North bridge/South Bridge/other pci-express slot).

 

[Samus]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: Nick5324
Great for a cheap Dell box that comes with integrated or an X300.

X300 is likely better.

BTW, this would also work if you have a laptop with a docking station that lets you use PCI graphics, well you could get this 6200.

A 6200 is leaps and bounds better than an X300. Infact, the X550 is even still slower than a 6200 (although not by much) but keep in mind a X550 is 40% faster than an X300.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Samus

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: Nick5324
Great for a cheap Dell box that comes with integrated or an X300.

X300 is likely better.

BTW, this would also work if you have a laptop with a docking station that lets you use PCI graphics, well you could get this 6200.

A 6200 is leaps and bounds better than an X300. Infact, the X550 is even still slower than a 6200 (although not by much) but keep in mind a X550 is 40% faster than an X300.

This is a PCI card though, the X300 will be hooked up over PCI-Express. Last I checked, there was a 30% to 50% hit going with the PCI over AGP version of the same card, and that was back with Radeon 9000s which were much slower than the 6200.