Maybe we need AMD and Intel subsections in CPUs and Overclocking, while I'm fine with comparative discussions, it may be the only way we will keep threads open in an era where AMD is struggling and the h8ers on each side are becoming more vehement. I can see why AMD fans are feeling bullied.
It can of course be discussed respectfully. But silencing an opinion just because someone doesn't like it, well, that's stupid. That's what these forums are all about, sharing opinions and ideas. You don't have to agree with 100% of them - debating and discussing the faults and merits of products is what forums like this are designed for. The bread and butter, if you will. If we were to go with the AMD fan idea of "on topic" here in this thread, we'd probably sound like robots talking about marketing slides. That is of course, nonsense - we can speculate and share opinions about beema/mullins AND competing products, there is NOTHING wrong with that. Heck, I hope both of these products are ALL THAT and more, a competitive AMD brings nothing but GOOD things to the tech community. Again, that's what this forum is for. Sharing ideas and opinions that you don't agree with. If someone is clearly out of line in attacking someone with an opinion, then let it be dealt with - make no mistake, the mods don't take lightly on personal attacks and over-the-top behavior and what not here from what i've seen. Yet, claiming something to be "derailing" when it is relevant to the product being discussed, that is of course nonsense.
A direct competing product is relevant. We are not robots. WE are here to share ideas, again, whether they're agreed with or not. Airmont, specifically, is relevant because it is a direct competitor - now maybe AMD can pull an Apple. Can they? I don't know. Apple did miracles with their A7 design on 28nm. But stating that airmont discussion isn't allowed, well, to sound like a broken record - that is complete nonsense. Direct competing product.
IMHO