[PCPer] Samsung 2TB Pro and Evo SSDs

[chucky2]

It's Samsung though...who will trust making an expensive purchase with Samsung as the support mechanism?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Giggity. I want like 6 of them in raid 10.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Prices have been dropping by a steady ~20% year over year.

Remember when SSDs hit the magic $1USD/GB point, three years ago? When that happened, I jumped in at the big end, and bought a 240GB Mushkin Chronos Deluxe drive, with supposed good reviews / ratings. Unfortunately, it was a SandForce 2nd-gen, and promptly went Tango Uniform within a month. Didn't like my laptop's sleep states. Now, the BIOS won't even recognize it. I did upgrade the firmware when I got it, but that firmware, turned out to be buggy.

Things like that are why I don't recommend SandForce "clone" drives from 3rd-parties. Intel drives seem to be the exception, but they aren't foolproof either.

Anyways, my point was that I recently (a few weeks ago) purchased a pair of 500GB 850 EVO SSDs for $185 ea, with a free 8GB of RAM. If you figure the RAM was worth $45, then that leaves $140 for the SSD. So twice the size, for almost half the price, of my 3-year-old Mushkin. A 4X capacity / price improvement.

 

[MongGrel]

Good capacity, but absolutely horrific prices. Price/GB is a meaningless metric if used solely, given it ignores the actual amount you're out of pocket. $800 in this case.

You can pick up a 7200RPM 2TB HDD for ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-Desks...7367&sr=8-10&keywords=2tb+internal+hard+drive.

That puts the SSD at around 16x (sixteen) times higher cost per/GB.

And let's face it, with a drive that big, most of it is going to be cold storage data and not something that needs fast I/O, which makes it even more of a rip-off. Maybe in 2-3 years the price will be more realistic.

+1

But why would you want to?

Those with disposable money tend to lack that kind of rationale

 

[AlienTech]

My first 90MB 3.5 full height scsi hard drive cost me $950 on sale and I thought it was a deal..

Now looking back at it, I think that was the day I went full retard..

 

[manderson]

Good capacity, but absolutely horrific prices. Price/GB is a meaningless metric if used solely, given it ignores the actual amount you're out of pocket. $800 in this case.

You can pick up a 7200RPM 2TB HDD for ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-Desks...7367&sr=8-10&keywords=2tb+internal+hard+drive.

That puts the SSD at around 16x (sixteen) times higher cost per/GB.

And let's face it, with a drive that big, most of it is going to be cold storage data and not something that needs fast I/O, which makes it even more of a rip-off. Maybe in 2-3 years the price will be more realistic.

Another 100% agree. I might not be a super power user like some. I do digital audio recording and photo processing mostly. With a 256GB SSD running the OS and four 2TB 7200RPM's in RAID1 I have data protection. And the OS overhead is all on the SSD, so the response time on the data drives is not an issue; actually very fast. Large capacity SSD data storage will be cool when the prices are cheap.

 

[razel]

At least yours was a SCSI. Mine was MFM 20MB full card HDD @ $400. It's still kicking today in my old Tandy. That was the storage luxury of its day since floppy ruled. Like yourself, I'm need to wear a helmet for my own safety.

 

[rsutoratosu]

The only thing they dont talk about is msata packaging...

The new ultra thins has no sata drives anymore.. only msata/m.2
Found here:

Eventually in msata / m.2 format
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9420/samsung-launches-new-2tb-ssd-850-evo-and-850-pro-models

 

[sm625]

I've always thought that 2TB is just about the perfect size.

How can 2TB be the perfect size? If you're going that big then you must be storing media on there. And if you're storing media on there, and you're using 2TB, then it wouldnt be long before you're needing 3TB, then 4TB, and so on...

 

[Quantos]

I have to agree with others here in saying that this seems overkill for most purposes. Sure, a big SSD for I/O intensive applications is awesome, but I doubt that most people really need a 2TB drive only for their software. Documents such as video, audio or picture files don't really benefit from SSDs in the first place (unless they're being moved around a lot I guess).

I recently got a 500GB SSD for my applications and have converted my internal HDDs to USB 3.0 external drives. Couldn't be happier. I don't really expect I'll need such a big SSD for a long time.

 

[voodoodrul]

I have many steam games that are over 35gb. Assuming a 2tb drive has 1.81tb of usable space, you can hold about 50 similar games. It's pretty easy to burn up 2tb. My 2 x 1tb SSD RAID0 is half full already, no media.

Now the obvious solution is to move the games off the SSD. But I want the performance. So why doesn't steam have a built in mechanism to allow single games to move from one drive to another? No, I don't want to copy files by hand. Yes I want to do this even in big picture mode with a controller. #crybaby

 

[BFG10K]

I have many steam games that are over 35gb. Assuming a 2tb drive has 1.81tb of usable space, you can hold about 50 similar games.

This is true and rising game sizes are my concern too. But if I needed 2 TB right now for games, I'd buy a 2TB Black HDD.

Most games show little difference between an SSD and a fast spinner; certainly nothing to justify such an exorbitant price tag.

 

[KentState]

This is true and rising game sizes are my concern too. But if I needed 2 TB right now for games, I'd buy a 2TB Black HDD.

Most games show little difference between an SSD and a fast spinner; certainly nothing to justify such an exorbitant price tag.

Thing is, if you filled a drive with 2TB of games, how would you ever find enough time to play them?

 

[Coup27]

Good capacity, but absolutely horrific prices. Price/GB is a meaningless metric if used solely, given it ignores the actual amount you're out of pocket. $800 in this case.

You can pick up a 7200RPM 2TB HDD for ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-Desks...7367&sr=8-10&keywords=2tb+internal+hard+drive.

That puts the SSD at around 16x (sixteen) times higher cost per/GB.

And let's face it, with a drive that big, most of it is going to be cold storage data and not something that needs fast I/O, which makes it even more of a rip-off. Maybe in 2-3 years the price will be more realistic.

It looks like I am the only one but I disagree with this post. I have just done some quick numbers taken from Scan.co.uk:

850 EVO 120GB works out to 43p/GB
850 EVO 250GB works out to 33p/GB
850 EVO 500GB works out to 29p/GB
850 EVO 1TB works out to 28p/GB
850 EVO 2TB works out to 31p/GB

So pricing is roughly where it should be.

Whether you actually need 2TB of SSD based storage is an entirely different subject and is purely down to the user and the workload so I don't think it's right to complain about how much it costs just because most people don't need it. At the end of the day it must be useful to somebody or they wouldn't sell it.

 

[alcoholbob]

Hmm. I might be able to fit all my Steam games on a 2TB SSD. Not bad.

 

[rchunter]

This is true and rising game sizes are my concern too. But if I needed 2 TB right now for games, I'd buy a 2TB Black HDD.

Most games show little difference between an SSD and a fast spinner; certainly nothing to justify such an exorbitant price tag.

Agree totally. While a 2tb ssd might be nice to put all my games on there's no way i'd ever pay a thousand for it. I can buy a $200 4tb WD Black HDD and run them just fine from it. The extra few seconds of loading time isn't going to make that much difference to me.

 

[Rubycon]

Nice thing here is noise. No noise from SSDs. Can't say that about platters. That's the price for silent computing and those that desire it cost is usually of no concern!

Give us an NVME version and it's golden. 8 of these mobile racked for 16TB of fast and silent storage is golden!

 

[therealnickdanger]

How can 2TB be the perfect size? If you're going that big then you must be storing media on there. And if you're storing media on there, and you're using 2TB, then it wouldnt be long before you're needing 3TB, then 4TB, and so on...

False premise is false. My Steam library is 1.5TB and growing. 2TB minus some spare area and it's perfect!