Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[child of wonder]

If lupi is a troll, it truly is amazing and subtle.

Teach me the way of your people.

If not, I'm scared for Pennsylvania. Does it really only take just shy of 300 career wins, 2 National Championships, and 3 conference titles to embrace a pedo-enabler? I would think you would need at least 1 national championship in every decade that you coached and probably 3 conference titles before being able to forgive child rape.

It's a symptom of the sick American mind that embraces and worships football, which is a subset of celebrity. Somehow those involved in it are demi-gods, their accomplishments on the field trump their failures off, and so on.

People mentally masturbate about football to the point of denying their own children education in lieu of it. Where I used to live a tax increase was voted on and passed by the community to build a new high school. What was the first thing they built with the money? A GIANT FOOTBALL FIELD so it could be ready for the next school year. That next school year the kids went to school at the old, cramped school with no AC but the football games were held at the new football field. It wasn't until after the football field was complete before they began construction on the school.

 

[surfsatwerk]

If lupi is a troll, it truly is amazing and subtle.

Teach me the way of your people.

If not, I'm scared for Pennsylvania. Does it really only take just shy of 300 career wins, 2 National Championships, and 3 conference titles to embrace a pedo-enabler? I would think you would need at least 1 national championship in every decade that you coached and probably 3 conference titles before being able to forgive child rape.

Some people really don't like the NCAA and my issues with the particulars of Penn State's "punishment" stem from that. It's not that I don't want Penn State punished, it's that fuck the NCAA and anything that undermines them is good to me.

 

[preslove]

It's a symptom of the sick American mind that embraces and worships football, which is a subset of celebrity. Somehow those involved in it are demi-gods, their accomplishments on the field trump their failures off, and so on.

People mentally masturbate about football to the point of denying their own children education in lieu of it. Where I used to live a tax increase was voted on and passed by the community to build a new high school. What was the first thing they built with the money? A GIANT FOOTBALL FIELD so it could be ready for the next school year. That next school year the kids went to school at the old, cramped school with no AC but the football games were held at the new football field. It wasn't until after the football field was complete before they began construction on the school.

Don't forget the Steubenville rapists and how they were supported by pieces of shit like lupi.

 

[child of wonder]

Don't forget the Steubenville rapists and how they were supported by pieces of shit like lupi.

Yeah, those guys had such promising football careers and now their lives are ruined!!!!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Some people really don't like the NCAA and my issues with the particulars of Penn State's "punishment" stem from that. It's not that I don't want Penn State punished, it's that fuck the NCAA and anything that undermines them is good to me.

I agree with that line of reasoning. The NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations on Earth, they make the Russian Mob look like choirboys. But in this particular case, I'm still rooting for them over PedoState. I want to see them absolutely destroy PSU football and hopefully someone else will take the NCAA down.

 

[Drako]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-officials-head-trial-alleged-sandusky-cover/story?id=19826009

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier, former vice president Gary Schultz, and ex-athletic director Tim Curley to face cover-up charges. I hope these asshats get more than a couple years.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-officials-head-trial-alleged-sandusky-cover/story?id=19826009

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier, former vice president Gary Schultz, and ex-athletic director Tim Curley to face cover-up charges. I hope these asshats get more than a couple years.

Which one will turn on the other two to get a better deal?

 

[Drako]

Which one will turn on the other two to get a better deal?

I would think that the emails that they have will probably make it hard for all of them.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I would think that the emails that they have will probably make it hard for all of them.

Probably, but Schultz looks like he's in the best position in the trial solely based on his position in the PSU hierarchy. Since he was under Spanier he can throw Spanier under the bus and claim he was acting on the orders of his boss. And since the power of the football program at PSU isn't questioned, he can also make a case that Tim Curley and Paterno had his balls in a vise. He was subordinate to the others, so he'd be viewed as the lesser target. The prosecution would probably be willing to let him skate on some of the charges if he starts singing on the other two. You have to figure he'll say anything they want, the more it screws Spanier and Curley the better it will be for Schultz.

 

[bignateyk]

Probably, but Schultz looks like he's in the best position in the trial solely based on his position in the PSU hierarchy. Since he was under Spanier he can throw Spanier under the bus and claim he was acting on the orders of his boss. And since the power of the football program at PSU isn't questioned, he can also make a case that Tim Curley and Paterno had his balls in a vise. He was subordinate to the others, so he'd be viewed as the lesser target. The prosecution would probably be willing to let him skate on some of the charges if he starts singing on the other two. You have to figure he'll say anything they want, the more it screws Spanier and Curley the better it will be for Schultz.

Except Shultz was the head of campus police, so really, if he knew about it, legally, most of the blame would lie on him.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Protect, cover-up, lie, it's the American way... and if you think I'm kidding just look to our politicians. It is pervasive in our society.

 

[lupi]

An amazing turn of events, seems the NCAA illegitimate witch hunt is turning out to be, illegitimate.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...ee-with-ncaa-questioned-by-pennsylvania-court


http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/04/pennsylvania_court_ruling_puts.html

 

[Drako]

An amazing turn of events, seems the NCAA illegitimate witch hunt is turning out to be, illegitimate.

Oh, look. Another child rapist defender. All hail the Tickle Monster. D:

 

[HendrixFan]

An amazing turn of events, seems the NCAA illegitimate witch hunt is turning out to be, illegitimate.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...ee-with-ncaa-questioned-by-pennsylvania-court


http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/04/pennsylvania_court_ruling_puts.html

You are reading it wrong. If they fight it in court, and successfully "win", then the agreement goes out the window and they will get the death penalty from the NCAA. Penn State took the deal because it was a better option than what the NCAA bylaws do clearly specify.

If these disgusting pigs want to keep putting the spotlight on themselves for years just to end up with a worse punishment then I feel no sympathy for them.

 

[momeNt]

Didn't Matt Lauer just do an interview with Sandusky's wife? I heard it was pretty disturbing to watch.

 

[zinfamous]

Dang, almost forgot about Pedo U, again!

thanks (again!) Lupi.

 

[TerryMathews]

Oh, look. Another child rapist defender. All hail the Tickle Monster. D:

You know, its possible for both to be true:

1) Sandusky raped kids and Paterno covered it up

2) The NCAA forced an illegal consent decree down Penn St's throat under duress.

Our legal system (luckily) doesn't operate on an "Ends justify the means" basis.

 

[waggy]

Didn't Matt Lauer just do an interview with Sandusky's wife? I heard it was pretty disturbing to watch.

she is a nutcase. i seen clips and couldn't believe it was real.


also Penn state needs to just shut up. this is not going ot end well for them if they continue fighting it.

really the argument is silly. they agreed to the punishment.

 

[lupi]

NCAA is in the process of getting trounced in several areas, this is a great time to get on that bandwagon. And excusing the local douche brigade, the post above yours is quite correct and why this is likely the beginning of the end for this bogus sanction response.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

You know, its possible for both to be true:

1) Sandusky raped kids and Paterno covered it up

2) The NCAA forced an illegal consent decree down Penn St's throat under duress.

Our legal system (luckily) doesn't operate on an "Ends justify the means" basis.

Not really.

Assuming that #1 is true, and there's certainly no reason to dispute it, then it's hard to view the consent decree as being accepted under duress. At that point the NCAA had PedoState 100% over a barrel and could have completely demolished the program and then salted the earth so that nothing could ever grow there again. PSU was free to reject the consent decree and face the music and they most certainly would have if they saw any sort of better deal was possible. What the NCAA did was 1/10th of what PedoState deserved, the consent decree was not forced upon them, it was offered up like a gift from the gods.

 

[zinfamous]

she is a nutcase. i seen clips and couldn't believe it was real.


also Penn state needs to just shut up. this is not going ot end well for them if they continue fighting it.

really the argument is silly. they agreed to the punishment.

agreed. The absolute facts in this case are that Sandusky raped little boys for a decade plus, and not only Paterno, but every facet of administration covered this up for a significant part of that time--blocking justice and allowing more rape to occur.

Those are facts.

Only the true PSU homers would think that any and all punishment they receive is not only appropriate, but heavy-handed. The fact is, not enough punishment can be appropriately doled to this program.

I do hope that this bites them in the ass, in a very severe, and very permanent way.

 

[preslove]

An amazing turn of events, seems the NCAA illegitimate witch hunt is turning out to be, illegitimate.


http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/wri...ee-with-ncaa-questioned-by-pennsylvania-court


http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/04/pennsylvania_court_ruling_puts.html

Why do you support pedophilia?

 

[lupi]

People seem to be typing without reading, although that was also prominent when this first occured.



The validity of the NCAA’s landmark consent decree with Penn State was questioned by a Pennsylvania state court Wednesday in a decision that could have far-reaching implications.

The Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court said the NCAA might not have had the legal right to force Penn State to agree to the decree in 2012 that stopped just short of a death penalty for the football program. That decree resulted from the NCAA’s unprecedented involvement in the outcome of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

The court made the ruling as motions flew back and forth in the pending Corman vs. NCAA case. Pennsylvania state senator Jake Corman sued the association in January 2013*attempting to keep the $60 million fine that resulted from the decree to be used in state.

Corman alleged that spending any of the money outside the state violates the Pennsylvania constitution. The court upheld the constitutionality of the Endowment Act. The act requires any fine of more than $10 million to be deposited in a state treasury trust fund.

On Wednesday, the Commonwealth Court dismissed the NCAA’s challenge of that law that would keep the money in state. In a split decision, a majority of the seven-judge panel questioned the validity of the consent decree.

“ … given the many discrepancies between the consent decree and the NCAA constitution and bylaws, there exists genuine factual disputes,” said Judge Anne Covey in the majority opinion.

She questioned, “whether the NCAA acted in accordance with its constitution and bylaws.”

The court further wrote, “The Consent Decree expressly recognizes* the NCAA’s questionable involvement in and its dubious authority pertaining to a criminal action against a non-university official [Sandusky] which involved children who were non-university student-athletes.”

In his dissenting opinion, Judge Dan Pellegrini said he was “bewildered” Penn State would enter into agreement with the NCAA on issues that “ordinarily would not be actionable by the NCAA.”

The decree was the foundation of the NCAA’s penalties against Penn State in the Sandusky case. The university basically agreed to a series of crippling sanctions facing the real possibility of the football program being shut down by the NCAA.

One of Penn State's lawyers, Gene Marsh, called the situation at the time a “cram-down.”

The school was assessed a four-year bowl ban and scholarship limitations. Some of those scholarships have been restored by the NCAA. In addition, all of Joe Paterno’s wins from 1998-2011 were vacated.

The NCAA’s penalties were unprecedented for several reasons.

-- The infractions in question were not related to a competitive advantage. Sandusky had left the program years before.

-- They resulted from a criminal case. The NCAA interpreted its constitution to conclude that Penn State violated the constitution's "fundamental values" clause.

-- Players who had nothing to do with case were penalized. In a famous show of faith, senior Mike Mauti and several other players pledged loyalty to the program two days after the penalties were announced.

-- Players were allowed to transfer immediately, setting off a set of unintended consequences. Players complained of coaches from interested schools lurking in the parking lot outside the football facility.

-- Penn State was not a repeat offender of NCAA bylaws, which automatically triggers the possibility of a death penalty. In fact, Penn State had been one of two schools to win national championships in the wire service era (since 1936) never to commit a major violation in football. BYU is the other.

 

[lupi]

You are a scum sucking piece of shit.

Why do you like child abuse?

Just because I don't want to talk about you playing with little boys doesn't mean I condone it.

 

[zinfamous]

The NCAA’s penalties were unprecedented for several reasons.

-- The infractions in question were not related to a competitive advantage. Sandusky had left the program years before.
Reggie Bush had left USC several years before the NCAA went after them. And this isn't the first time the NCAA punished a school for past deeds. Certainly not unprecedented re: PSU


-- They resulted from a criminal case. The NCAA interpreted its constitution to conclude that Penn State violated the constitution's "fundamental values" clause. NCAA has always been funny with its "fundamental values." They do this with players receiving money from whomever or wherever. These "fundamental values" from the NCAA tend to mean whatever they want them to mean. I agree that it is generally bullshit, but no reason to play if off this case as if it is unique.

-- Players who had nothing to do with case were penalized. In a famous show of faith, senior Mike Mauti and several other players pledged loyalty to the program two days after the penalties were announced. Sucks for the players, but this is part of why the punishment must be so severe. Responsible adults in charge of these "student athlete's" career at major universities need to realize how their actions affect everyone in their care. Honestly--no sympathy. This is all part of setting precedent

-- Players were allowed to transfer immediately, setting off a set of unintended consequences. Players complained of coaches from interested schools lurking in the parking lot outside the football facility. Seems to offset the above point, doesn't it? The NCAA, then, really wasn't punishing these students. Seems that, in a show of mercy, they were given a free out. Complaints of lurking by other schools? lol, give me a break. Either way, above point and this point run completely counter to each other. Only one is arguable

-- Penn State was not a repeat offender of NCAA bylaws, which automatically triggers the possibility of a death penalty. In fact, Penn State had been one of two schools to win national championships in the wire service era (since 1936) never to commit a major violation in football. BYU is the other.You know why they say about "Never to have __?" Such statements are only true until they no longer are true. Everything before, will never matter again. Fact is, they committed the most egregious violation of trust within the college sports community. This is the most significant violation that any committee--NCAA or college school board has ever seen. Any history before? seriously--so what? Considering how long this went on, what the hell was going on before that we didn't know about?No, I don't think it's all that worthwhile to speculate about that...well, until someone tries to bring up now-meaningless history about they were "so innocent" before. OK, well, not that it matters anymore, but let's think about it...were they?

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