Penryn up and running!

n7

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Yeah AMD is in trouble for the next while, at least in the high end market anyway...


Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Ok USA!

WTF does this have to do with USA

 

StopSign

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I wonder when the manufacturing process will reach pico-meter levels. We're certainly getting there fast.
 

Duvie

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If 65nm has been financially feasible to build quad cores then heres to hoping they will have an octocore soon.....I can use it....
 

nyker96

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read this article this morning. sounds like intel is on track for 45nm for Q3. this could mean they will soon be able to glue 2xquad into a octacore monster.
 

Duvie

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That is what I am thinking....

native quad cores and perhaps non-native octacores....
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Ok USA!

WTF does this have to do with USA

I believe he was talking about this article.

Development for 45nm processors is currently done at Intel's D1D facility in Oregon.

It could also be an oblique reference to an unintentionally hilarious scene in Bloodsport when the Kumite registrar guy gives this hammy thumbs-up to Van Damme and says 'O K USA in a ridiculous accent
 

MotF Bane

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er...
theres nothing new there, theyve been speaking about Penryn since... November? early December?
45nm is gonna be sweet though.
 

KhoiFather

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Ok USA!

WTF does this have to do with USA

I believe he was talking about this article.

Development for 45nm processors is currently done at Intel's D1D facility in Oregon.

It could also be an oblique reference to an unintentionally hilarious scene in Bloodsport when the Kumite registrar guy gives this hammy thumbs-up to Van Damme and says 'O K USA in a ridiculous accent

LOL you got that right!
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
er...
theres nothing new there, theyve been speaking about Penryn since... November? early December?
45nm is gonna be sweet though.

Talking about something vs getting something to work in real life are two totally different things.
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Duvie
That is what I am thinking....

native quad cores and perhaps non-native octacores....

Very far down the line unfortunately, Yorkfield looks to be 2 Wolfdale Dual Core's in MCM and Intel's first Native Quad Core won't be until Nahelem derivatives in H2 2008. It is also extremely doubtful Intel will release Native Quad Core and Non Native Octo Core at the same time, so if we even see Octo Core processors on a single socket it will most likely be sometime in Early to Mid 2009.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Duvie
That is what I am thinking....

native quad cores and perhaps non-native octacores....

Very far down the line unfortunately, Yorkfield looks to be 2 Wolfdale Dual Core's in MCM and Intel's first Native Quad Core won't be until Nahelem derivatives in H2 2008. It is also extremely doubtful Intel will release Native Quad Core and Non Native Octo Core at the same time, so if we even see Octo Core processors on a single socket it will most likely be sometime in Early to Mid 2009.



With that distance in time, then it is not likely going to be done on the 45nm process, huh?

I didn't think there were going to have another non-native quad version in there.

 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Duvie
That is what I am thinking....

native quad cores and perhaps non-native octacores....

Very far down the line unfortunately, Yorkfield looks to be 2 Wolfdale Dual Core's in MCM and Intel's first Native Quad Core won't be until Nahelem derivatives in H2 2008. It is also extremely doubtful Intel will release Native Quad Core and Non Native Octo Core at the same time, so if we even see Octo Core processors on a single socket it will most likely be sometime in Early to Mid 2009.



With that distance in time, then it is not likely going to be done on the 45nm process, huh?

I didn't think there were going to have another non-native quad version in there.

Well considering how high clocked each die can be with a MCM approach, native is not the be all and end all of things. It will still have a total die of 200mm2 or so, so a MCM approach could help yields out, like it did for Presler.

You got to keep in mind the 32nm process will only be in it's infancy, in H2 2009 even further down the road.

I am not too hyped about Octo Core at this point, I feel 4 is a very comfortable level, unless software really get in gear and starts heavily taking advantage of as many cores as possible, and not just the stuff we have now
 

Duvie

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Yeah but I fold so 8 instances is fine with me. I can run as much as it gives me.....There are no apps I run now that can hold 100% on all four of my QX6700 cores....Too IO limited at this point. 8 cores will only exasperate that.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Yeah but I fold so 8 instances is fine with me. I can run as much as it gives me.....There are no apps I run now that can hold 100% on all four of my QX6700 cores....Too IO limited at this point. 8 cores will only exasperate that.


Well, just build yourself two kentsfield boxes then. That is of course unless you already have a few dozen of them..
 

MotF Bane

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I heard that the first variant (A0 I think it's called?) actually booted Windows. Yay for saving $2 billion in research!
 

Nemesis 1

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I have read here from a few that Intel penryn is a simple die shrink it is much more than that.

1). It will employ High K and metal gates.
http://online.wsj.com/preview_login.htm...656.html%3Fmod%3Dyahoo_hs%26ru%3Dyahoo
2). It will also use H/T but not the old p4 H/T this one is the mitosis brand of Hyper threading. With a greatly improved compiler.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4540

http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/research/speculative-threading-1205.htm

http://techreport.com/etc/2006q4/fall-idf/index.x?pg=1

3) Removed point 3 as I just learned Yorkfield will be dual die.

 

Nemesis 1

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Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
yeyeye...good news..but i dont care much since penryn will not appear befor 2008.

Penryn Yorkfield will be out in 4th qt. 07 Penryn Wolfdale 1st. quarter 08
 

Cheex

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Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
yeyeye...good news..but i dont care much since penryn will not appear befor 2008.

Actually........its more like Q4 2007.
 
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