Pentium D, M, or 6xx?

[a1strank]

First..don't bring all the AMD craps here, I am going to try some newer Pentium for the first time, my last pentium setup was like some socket 423 P4 2ghz..anyways..what do you think it suits me best if I don't game at all? I mean like just ignore the gaming performance part, I don't really care about losing 10-20 fps in game, I just care about my general use performance. I encode, music editing, video editing, chat, browsing, video, music, blah..everything..sometimes I might pump those all at same like..like having music playing, chat, firefox with 20 tabs, aim with 10 tabs, msn with 5 tabs, mixing music..something like that. Which CPU do you think is best for me? Thanks a lot for all the feedbacks.

 

[biostud]

pentium D or if you're willing to spend more money Athlon 64 X2

 

[imported_rod]

With mad multitasking like that, the dualcore pentium4s. And 2GB of RAM.

RoD

 

[MobiusPizza]

As RoD said, dual core is your choice.
However if you can afford Athlon X2's they are much better choice because of the much higher performance ~20%

 

[ProviaFan]

If you have to have hotter, slower, and only slightly (only slightly, after considering the expensive motherboard and RAM upgrade) less expensive choice, the PD is the way to go. However, I can't help but to add that my Athlon 64 X2 sees plenty of load (professional stuff, like Photoshop CS2 the way real advanced amateurs and professionals use it, not kiddie p1r4t3s) while running cooler, faster, and just plain great (very stable, don't even try that outdated argument).

If you want to try something irrational, though, who am I to stop you? Heck, people thought the world was flat, too. Whatever makes you happy.

 

[n7]

He's already got a killer A64 setup, so yeah, Pentium D would be the way to go if he doesn't wanna get an X2.
BTW, i accidentally voted for Pentium M (Dothan), so switch that vote to Pentium D mentally

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Pentium D, hands down.

If you can't afford a Pentium D (which would be quite understandable), go with an Athlon 64, instead. Don't waste your money on a P4.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: n7
He's already got a killer A64 setup, so yeah, Pentium D would be the way to go if he doesn't wanna get an X2.
BTW, i accidentally voted for Pentium M (Dothan), so switch that vote to Pentium D mentally

Didn't notice his A64 rig already... He's going to spend a bit more going with the inferior PD solution rather than the superior X2 solution. But again, whatever makes him happy.

 

[Markfw]

X2 4400+ no competition as Zebo says....

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: n7
He's already got a killer A64 setup, so yeah, Pentium D would be the way to go if he doesn't wanna get an X2.
BTW, i accidentally voted for Pentium M (Dothan), so switch that vote to Pentium D mentally

Didn't notice his A64 rig already... He's going to spend a bit more going with the inferior PD solution rather than the superior X2 solution. But again, whatever makes him happy.

Yeah...i'm not quite sure why he so wants to throw money away, but each to their own.

I could understand if he was thinking A64 vs. P4 upgrade, but he's already got that...

Just he's picked the worst possible time to go try Intel out...Pentium D = cooling nightmare, & mediocre single core performance...

 

[imported_Kensai]

AMD X2 > Pentium D > Pentium M

 

[suicidalpigeon]

some of these people cant stop but to mention amd 64 somewhere in their post, some mindlessly post stuff about amd without reading th op's post, let alone his sig. go with pentium d and good luck. my p4 havent caused me any problems at all since i added a xp-90.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
some of these people cant stop but to mention amd 64 somewhere in their post, some mindlessly post stuff about amd without reading th op's post, let alone his sig. go with pentium d and good luck. my p4 havent caused me any problems at all since i added a xp-90.

Here at AT, we are price/performance junkies.

Most people here have a hard time seeing someone spend money on something that doesn't give the best price/performance, that's all.
Too many people mistake that for being biased, but that's not generally the case.

 

[suicidalpigeon]

yes i can understand that. 500/729 of my post were about recommending the good stuff..the rest are nefs (mind you). im one of the few in this thread that refrained from recommending amd based on the op's request and decision to go intel.

 

[ProviaFan]

(exaggerated analogy warning)

If someone wanted to know what car would be best for sailing on the great lakes, do you think we should go ahead and recommend cars, which aren't worth buying for the intended purpose, or do we have an obligation to recommend something that we feel is better suited for the job? Obviously, many of us believe the latter. That you have a problem with that is of no concern to me.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
my p4 havent [sic] caused me any problems at all since i added a xp-90.

The reason you see so many recommending AMD is because you have to add modifiers like "since I added the best air cooling available, it's stable" to your sentences, whereas A64 users don't. If he's willing to blow the extra cash, the X2 is worth it. Otherwise, the cheap PD is his best best. It may look like X2's mostly just win in gaming, but the differences in design between the PD and X2 are going to be more apparent as multithreading starts becoming standard (e.g. designed for dual core vs. designed for single core speed that was never attained).

 

[suicidalpigeon]

ok people no need to lecture me about the pros and cons of intel and amd. i already know them. i said what i said because he is going to intel and isnt looking back(obviously not what he said, prob not what he meant, either). and wanted to give him some bit of reassurance since he's going to the dark side. i know i said what you quoted, but the problem was only heat, not instablility. and the new stock heatsink is suppose to do better from what i heard for the pd.

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: a1strank
First..don't bring all the AMD craps here, I am going to try some newer Pentium for the first time, my last pentium setup was like some socket 423 P4 2ghz..anyways..what do you think it suits me best if I don't game at all? I mean like just ignore the gaming performance part, I don't really care about losing 10-20 fps in game, I just care about my general use performance. I encode, music editing, video editing, chat, browsing, video, music, blah..everything..sometimes I might pump those all at same like..like having music playing, chat, firefox with 20 tabs, aim with 10 tabs, msn with 5 tabs, mixing music..something like that. Which CPU do you think is best for me? Thanks a lot for all the feedbacks.

This seems like a lot of things going on at once, however this is "user-multitasking" instead of "cpu-multitasking" that dual-core is designed for.

 

[hurtstotalktoyou]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
some of these people cant stop but to mention amd 64 somewhere in their post, some mindlessly post stuff about amd without reading th op's post, let alone his sig. go with pentium d and good luck. my p4 havent caused me any problems at all since i added a xp-90.

There's a reason that we're all talking about A64s: they're better than P4s.

It doesn't matter that the guy told us to forget about AMD, nor that he already has a 3000+. A bad idea is a bad idea, and if I'm going to recommend something, I want to add a disclaimer that it's a mistake to go with a P4.

Anyway, we are answering his questions; it's just that we've added a little commentary on the AMD/Intel story.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: rod
With mad multitasking like that, the dualcore pentium4s. And 2GB of RAM.

RoD

music playing, chat, firefox with 20 tabs, aim with 10 tabs, msn with 5 tabs, mixing music..something like that

That's hardly mad multitasking. Firefox and aim can sit idle while he chats on msn. A P3 1GHz would probably suffice for this.


You're really just looking to blow some money on a toy. A Pentium-D would be the coolest one to have.

 

[suicidalpigeon]

music playing, chat, firefox with 20 tabs, aim with 10 tabs, msn with 5 tabs, mixing music..something like that

That's hardly mad multitasking. Firefox and aim can sit idle while he chats on msn. A P3 1GHz would probably suffice for this.


You're really just looking to blow some money on a toy. A Pentium-D would be the coolest one to have.[/quote]

you left out the encode, music editing, video editing part. and for the rest of you people trying to tell me that your trying to tell him to reconsider...well im not gonna try to argue with you anymore, its pointless. i wish the op was still here to tell everyone else whether or not he's going to go with intel and that is final, so a flamewar wont start, or did it?

 

[FishTankX]

If I may point something out, an Athlon64 X2 dropable into your current rig will cost LESS than a Pentium-D with the motherboard and RAM.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
you left out the encode, music editing, video editing part. and for the rest of you people trying to tell me that your trying to tell him to reconsider...well im not gonna try to argue with you anymore, its pointless. i wish the op was still here to tell everyone else whether or not he's going to go with intel and that is final, so a flamewar wont start, or did it?

Uh except that's just a list of the things he uses the computer for. The example he gave of what he does at the same time was basically chatting, listening to music, and web browsing.

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: FishTankX
If I may point something out, an Athlon64 X2 dropable into your current rig will cost LESS than a Pentium-D with the motherboard and RAM.

His mobo isn't compatible, though. It's a socket 754 nForce 3 chipset. And if he upgrades, he's going to have to upgrade his AGP 6600GT video card as well, since the Intel dual core boards and the AMD NF4 boards are PCIe x16.

Going from an A64 at 2.5GHz to a P-D at 2.8-3.2 GHz is going to feel like a bit of a drop in performance, even if you take the second core into account. Only a $1000+ EE w/HT is going to feel close to his current A64 in single-threaded performance.

 

[PerfeK]

Originally posted by: a1strank
First..don't bring all the AMD craps here, I am going to try some newer Pentium for the first time, my last pentium setup was like some socket 423 P4 2ghz..anyways..what do you think it suits me best if I don't game at all? I mean like just ignore the gaming performance part, I don't really care about losing 10-20 fps in game, I just care about my general use performance. I encode, music editing, video editing, chat, browsing, video, music, blah..everything..sometimes I might pump those all at same like..like having music playing, chat, firefox with 20 tabs, aim with 10 tabs, msn with 5 tabs, mixing music..something like that. Which CPU do you think is best for me? Thanks a lot for all the feedbacks.

Cheap dual core.