Pentium - M or A64

[SaberDicer]

Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

 

[thirdlegstump]

I think the Pentel Intium A64 bitters are the best at the moment. Don't get anything less than 3.4GHz. Make sure you get lots of memory, like 120GB or more.

 

[meltdown75]

if you want to build a gaming rig, go with the amd. imho

 

[BW86]

heres a review on teh Dothan:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/vie...othangaming&page=1

Pretty close to the a64's

 

[RightWinga]

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

 

[thirdlegstump]

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

M chips run coola so like, you can overklock dat sucka a bit mo. Also I think theyz gotz mo cash.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

Nope. Look at the benchmarks.

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

If you read the review the 2ghz Dothan beats the 3500 in all the tests..

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

M chips run coola so like, you can overklock dat sucka a bit mo. Also I think theyz gotz mo cash.

Reading this statement made me and everyone else a little bit dumber

 

[SaberDicer]

Yea, But I could OC a 3500 to around 2.6 easily and the 2ghz wasnt beating the 3500+ by that much and the 3500+ is also 100$ cheaper, Its a hard choice though and one of the biggest suprises of the year.

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Yea, But I could OC a 3500 to around 2.6 easily and the 2ghz wasnt beating the 3500+ by that much and the 3500+ is also 100$ cheaper, Its a hard choice though and one of the biggest suprises of the year.

Its an easy decision imho. Look at motherboard costs for the Dothan. You will quickly buy the 3500

 

[imported_Computer MAn]

Isn't what makes the Dothan so close to an A64 is its 2mb L2 cache.

 

[w00t]

the pentuim m is a pentuim 4 with shorter pipelines not a mobile chip correct me if i am wrong but i rember someone telling me that.

 

[een]

Ummmm...
Dothan is a totally different core to the Pentium 4.
Where P4 is geared towards clock speed, the Pentium M is geared towards lessening power consumption.
It's like 200+ Watts on load on a P4 3.8 GHz to 22 Watts on a Dothan

This is because Dothan can turn off part of cache that is it not using.
A Dothan is closer to a PIIIs than the P4s in the fact that it's doing more instructions per clock.

 

[MDE]

I'd go A64 just because of the cost (and scarcity) of P-M motherboards.

 

[formulav8]

I heard that GamePc's benches for the A64 doesn't fall in line with other reviews like anandtechs. Something like up to 20-30% slower are gamepc's benches compared to anands?? That is what someone posted with the various numbers and such. It was on this site somewhere. Just be careful if you are only going to go by this 1 website on deciding the PM cpu.

I have messed with PM's and do not know why you would get it over a A64?

I just see no reason at all to get the PM unless you want a cool and quiet pc. People give the PM to much praise from what I've seen. I believe it is overhyped.

Of course this is my opinion mostly. So don't cry


Jason

 

[jvarszegi]

If the whole industry reports that the Pentium M is equal to the latest AMD processor, then and only then will I believe it. In the meantime, this information is interesting, but not enough to make me run out and build a Pentium M desktop, especially with the lack of motherboard support.

I wonder sometimes how often big companies pay "independent" reviewers off. I know Microsoft's done it on numerous occasions, and I wouldn't put a little FUD past Intel.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: BW86
heres a review on teh Dothan:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/vie...othangaming&page=1

Pretty close to the a64's

you realize all thoes are run at 1024x768 if you up the resolution to 1600x1200 the PM gets killed

 

[SaberDicer]

Haha, well I really doubt most hardcore gamers would run there systems at 1024x768, so the choice seems pretty clear now

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: Anubis
you realize all thoes are run at 1024x768 if you up the resolution to 1600x1200 the PM gets killed

No evidence of that:
http://www.x86-secret.com/popu...rintarticle.php?id=113
And at that resolution, even top-end video cards end up being the more limiting factor, not the CPU.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: RightWinga

Originally posted by: SaberDicer
Bulding a new desktop, and been hearing some stuff about the Pentium - M's blowing A64's away after Intel moved the chip the desktop. Anyhow Id either be getting the 2.0ghz Pentium M or the 3500+ ( the 300-450 range ). Used mainly for gaming, light editing ect. thx.

Pentium M = laptop chip?

2.0 laptop chip on a desktop vs AMD64 3500+ is this a joke?

M chips run coola so like, you can overklock dat sucka a bit mo. Also I think theyz gotz mo cash.

Actually, you won't be overclocking it much at all. The P-M is designed in such a way that it's built with a specific frquency limit in mind even on paper, in order to further save power, which means the higher speed models have almost no headroom for overclocking. It's not a voltage/heat thing either, so there's no amazing trick that can be done to get more headroom out of it.