People are saying trump wants out

[Puffnstuff]

Hmmm....now might be a good time to buy ice cream company stocks. Making America's Ice Cream Great Again.

 

[pmv]

Free the Whitehouse One!

Actually, if Trump quit, wouldn't Pence take over? Is that not how it works?

From the outside, Pence looks worse than Trump. At least Trump is inconsistent and offers a perverse kind of entertainment value.

Do US liberals actually find Pence preferable to Trump? Or have I misunderstood how the US system works?

 

[brycejones]

Sorry boomerang not you.

 

[brycejones]

Free the Whitehouse One!

Actually, if Trump quit, wouldn't Pence take over? Is that not how it works?

From the outside, Pence looks worse than Trump. At least Trump is inconsistent and offers a perverse kind of entertainment value.

Do US liberals actually find Pence preferable to Trump? Or have I misunderstood how the US system works?

Yes Pence would become president. Pence is worse in many ways. Trump is a pig but Pence is so uptight he is like the opposite of Trump but to extreme the other way. The man looks like he is always trying to not think about penises but can think of nothing else. He probably believes that if and his wife have sex in anything other than the missionary position he will go to hell. I would be shocked if they slept in the same bed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Free the Whitehouse One!

Actually, if Trump quit, wouldn't Pence take over? Is that not how it works?

From the outside, Pence looks worse than Trump. At least Trump is inconsistent and offers a perverse kind of entertainment value.

Do US liberals actually find Pence preferable to Trump? Or have I misunderstood how the US system works?

Pence might be worse for people living in the USA but he's probably safer for the rest of the world.

 

[sandorski]

Pence might be worse for people living in the USA but he's probably safer for the rest of the world.

Maybe. He wouldn't be as much of a Clown, so that's an improvement.

 

[WelshBloke]

Maybe. He wouldn't be as much of a Clown, so that's an improvement.

He seems to be someone who knows how things work, listens to advice and isn't an idiot. So that's a fairly major improvement on the other guy!
Don't get me wrong, I think that he'll try to push some hideous social policies but you guys voted for this shower of shit I don't see what we should suffer the orange twat bumbling around the world. We are quite capable of voting for our own showers of shit thanks!

 

[sandorski]

He seems to be someone who knows how things work, listens to advice and isn't an idiot. So that's a fairly major improvement on the other guy!
Don't get me wrong, I think that he'll try to push some hideous social policies but you guys voted for this shower of shit I don't see what we should suffer the orange twat bumbling around the world. We are quite capable of voting for our own showers of shit thanks!

All y'all voted for shit. I have Trudeau....although many think he's shit too, so I suppose it's relative.

 

[WelshBloke]

All y'all voted for shit. I have Trudeau....although many think he's shit too, so I suppose it's relative.

Given what everyone else has I'd stay happy with Trudeau if I was you!

 

[sandorski]

Given what everyone else has I'd stay happy with Trudeau if I was you!

He's not perfect, but ya I prefer him over some Trumpkind.

 

[pmv]

Pence might be worse for people living in the USA but he's probably safer for the rest of the world.

I can certainly see the argument for that, but nevertheless, on balance, I don't feel Pence, and the people he represents, taking over would be an improvement. Maybe it's just that Trump at least doesn't represent 'business as usual'.

 

[Genx87]

This story has been floated since during the primaries. Give it up.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This story has been floated since during the primaries. Give it up.

People are saying that's all maybe they're wrong but people are saying that Trump wants out. Even some in the White House are saying Trump wants out.
*this post is to prove a point what comes around goes around

 

[soulcougher73]

I hope this is true. I hope he resigns as the YUGE loser we all know he is and takes down the GOP with it. Man, talk about a shit stain on the GOPs face lol

 

[dank69]

I think you missed the point

That's a lost cause. Conservatives don't understand reality based humor. Well, more accurately, their reality is so different from our own that the humor just doesn't make sense, just like all their humor, which is based on their own reality, makes no sense to us.

And yes, I'm pretty sure I remember you saying you lean conservative, but you don't seem to be afflicted as bad as most of the rest of them.

 

[Jaskalas]

There will always be poor people. There will always be rich people. What system you live under determines how many of each their are. Here, we have few poor and few rich. Few rich and the rest equally poor doesn't sound so good to me. Fortunately we've curtailed that fate - for now.

The math alone proves you wrong. Here's a thought exercise to demonstrate:

Picture a 100% tax to split the $15.5 trillion evenly. That is $100k a year for every single couple. In addition to a $800k savings account when _every_ _single_ _person_ turns 18. Being able to cover housing, transport, education, healthcare, AND a 6 figure "income" is not poor in my book.

So the figures add up, all we have to do is figure out how much we scale it. And we're going to do something similar some day as Labor is not worth !@#$ anymore compared to the 50s, 60s, and 70s. The decline is massive, the losses felt by workers cannot be overcome by minimum wage as automation is also part of the equation. An economic model based on Labor is doomed. Production will exist without workers. In the end we'll be taxing that and providing benefits to everyone.

It's not a question of whether your way of life is going to change, merely how long you wait until you actually, truly, help people. Sooner or later the people will figure out where the pain is coming from, what holds them back, and finally vote in their interests to solve it.

Why You Love Capitalism

This country has embraced Capitalism our entire lives. We've also had taxation. The two are not mutually exclusive. And don't play strawman either, the 100% figure above was for demonstration purposes only. People could have a basic income to secure the economy at 25%. Another 15-25% to fund all other government functions. It's not scary, it's a safety net to fix a flaw in the system, to prop up and ensure Capitalism still thrives in the future.

It's not anti-Capitalist to provide an underpinning and leave no person behind. A tax of 25-50% would still leave America with plenty of billionaires. The difference is whether or not there is economic turmoil. You have been fooled if you think absolute poverty defines Capitalism.

 

[NTMBK]

He's trying to figure out a way to leave office without being a loser

http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-trump-advisor-says-trump-wants-out/

http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/adviser-donald-trump-wants-resign/3510/

Why are you linking to those garbage websites? At least link to the original Politico story.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why are you linking to those garbage websites? At least link to the original Politico story.

Because people are saying, plenty of people are saying

 

[IronWing]

Because people are saying, plenty of people are saying

This is true. I read a bunch of stuff about this recently. The buzz is increasing. I'm not saying there is a fire here but there is certainly a lot of smoke. People can't stop talking about it.

 

[Pens1566]

Rumor is he spent the weekend at camp david alone and sulking. Fits the narrative. Guy has spent his whole life doing whatever he wanted and was able to give zero fucks about what anyone thought of his actions. Can't do that now, as he's rudely discovering. He has three options, change course and play within the rules, find some way to leave and save face, or full steam ahead and deal with the consequences. Option 1 has less than no chance. Option 2 is possible, but unlikely. Wheeeeeeeee..... option 3 here we go.

 

[Geekbabe]

I understand exactly what you've said. There is no need to clarify your intent. I am commenting on the continuous grasping at the straws of hope in their various forms. First it's this, then that, then those, then these. The brighter among you understand that the agenda is to keep the administration too busy to accomplish anything. Few among that group are paying enough attention to know that they are accomplishing plenty.

Those outside of the group without the intelligence to understand the long game actually think that Trumps end is near. Fortunately looking like an imbecile is not a crime. Being led around by the nose by a corrupt media isn't either.

A snapshot of the first page of P&N at any given time will typically show anywhere from six to ten threads of the latest 'sure thing' along with the zombie causes du jour that will not die.

Trump is going to jail
Trump is going to be indicted
Spicer is getting the ax
Sessions is getting the ax
Bannon is getting the ax
_____________ is getting the ax
and so on...

But they are starting to taper off which is the basis of my praise for the progress through the stages of grief.

I was one of many that lamented with great regularity about 0bama. I get it. But this false hope that Trump has one foot on a banana peel and the floor is slippery is making many of you look way beyond foolish. But that works to my favor. Why do I say that? A good question to ask oneself.

The dem's need to grit their teeth through Trumps tenure and then bullshit their way back into power. Then they can turn on a dime and the march towards Marxism can be picked back up and just might be successful as long as there are enough nations willing to lend us the money to fund it.

It's not Trump you hate. It's the loss of the progress made not towards anything worthwhile but what the left has been taught is worthwhile. It's the 1000 plus seats lost in elections throughout the country and along with them the influence and power needed to achieve the utopian goal. It's the large scale dismissal of the rosy socialistic picture painted by people who would benefit the most from the upheaval of the system. They have you convinced they're your friends. You're pawns. Useful idiots.

Oh, and repeatedly calling people idiots whose party won elections from sea to shining sea makes one look like they're being manipulated. Which is exactly the case.

Get rid of Trump and you get Pence, get rid of Pence and you get Ryan and so on and so forth. Trump isn't going to satisfy you because it's not really Trump you want.

Be honest with yourselves and be happier for his tenure. Or, continue on and seal your fate. Capitalism has worked and continues to work very well for me. It does for you too if you want to be honest with yourself. Give it a try. Start questioning what you've been taught and be amazed at the results. Work within the system and prosper, work against it and at the very least be very unhappy far too much of the time. Understand that the goals of socialism lead to Venezuela in our times and that in the past, it led to millions of deaths. There are no "right people" to orchestrate it. It just plain sucks.

There will always be poor people. There will always be rich people. What system you live under determines how many of each their are. Here, we have few poor and few rich. Few rich and the rest equally poor doesn't sound so good to me. Fortunately we've curtailed that fate - for now.

Why You Love Capitalism

Prosper? I am a cancer patient grappling with the reality that I will soon be uninsurable & unable to afford a high risk pool that features waiting list & meager benefits that costs 25K a year.

The thought of dying, without a doctor, without pain relief is the stuff of my nightmares. Sorry but I'm struggling to accept this reality without letting hate fill my soul, embracing this administration doesn't seem possible.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

@boomerang, if you still believe the things you said after seeing @Geekbabe's post there, there is no hope for you. Doesn't seeing a living, breathing example mean anything to you? Do you really want her, and God alone knows how many others like her, left untreated even for pain with end-stage cancer?

 

[zinfamous]

I understand exactly what you've said. There is no need to clarify your intent. I am commenting on the continuous grasping at the straws of hope in their various forms. First it's this, then that, then those, then these. The brighter among you understand that the agenda is to keep the administration too busy to accomplish anything. Few among that group are paying enough attention to know that they are accomplishing plenty.

Those outside of the group without the intelligence to understand the long game actually think that Trumps end is near. Fortunately looking like an imbecile is not a crime. Being led around by the nose by a corrupt media isn't either.

A snapshot of the first page of P&N at any given time will typically show anywhere from six to ten threads of the latest 'sure thing' along with the zombie causes du jour that will not die.

Trump is going to jail
Trump is going to be indicted
Spicer is getting the ax
Sessions is getting the ax
Bannon is getting the ax
_____________ is getting the ax
and so on...

But they are starting to taper off which is the basis of my praise for the progress through the stages of grief.

I was one of many that lamented with great regularity about 0bama. I get it. But this false hope that Trump has one foot on a banana peel and the floor is slippery is making many of you look way beyond foolish. But that works to my favor. Why do I say that? A good question to ask oneself.

The dem's need to grit their teeth through Trumps tenure and then bullshit their way back into power. Then they can turn on a dime and the march towards Marxism can be picked back up and just might be successful as long as there are enough nations willing to lend us the money to fund it.

It's not Trump you hate. It's the loss of the progress made not towards anything worthwhile but what the left has been taught is worthwhile. It's the 1000 plus seats lost in elections throughout the country and along with them the influence and power needed to achieve the utopian goal. It's the large scale dismissal of the rosy socialistic picture painted by people who would benefit the most from the upheaval of the system. They have you convinced they're your friends. You're pawns. Useful idiots.

Oh, and repeatedly calling people idiots whose party won elections from sea to shining sea makes one look like they're being manipulated. Which is exactly the case.

Get rid of Trump and you get Pence, get rid of Pence and you get Ryan and so on and so forth. Trump isn't going to satisfy you because it's not really Trump you want.

Be honest with yourselves and be happier for his tenure. Or, continue on and seal your fate. Capitalism has worked and continues to work very well for me. It does for you too if you want to be honest with yourself. Give it a try. Start questioning what you've been taught and be amazed at the results. Work within the system and prosper, work against it and at the very least be very unhappy far too much of the time. Understand that the goals of socialism lead to Venezuela in our times and that in the past, it led to millions of deaths. There are no "right people" to orchestrate it. It just plain sucks.

There will always be poor people. There will always be rich people. What system you live under determines how many of each their are. Here, we have few poor and few rich. Few rich and the rest equally poor doesn't sound so good to me. Fortunately we've curtailed that fate - for now.

Why You Love Capitalism

that's a shit-ton of verbiage in service of denial

 

[1sikbITCH]

Free the Whitehouse One!

Actually, if Trump quit, wouldn't Pence take over? Is that not how it works?

From the outside, Pence looks worse than Trump. At least Trump is inconsistent and offers a perverse kind of entertainment value.

Do US liberals actually find Pence preferable to Trump? Or have I misunderstood how the US system works?

Agreed, Pence is an actual competent politician whether you agree with his politics or not.
The GOP demonstrated the correct strategy for 8 years. Just obstruct destroy obstruct destroy obstruct until election time and then erase whatever they could not obstruct. That's easier for Dems to do with orange dumbass than it would be if a real politician took over. They should just keep him roasting over the fire wrapped up in one investigation after the other for 4 years instead of trying to get rid of him.

 

[Grooveriding]

Pence might be worse for people living in the USA but he's probably safer for the rest of the world.

This. While I feel bad for sane Americans dealing with the radicalized right wing in their country, religious fanatics being in politics is just a fact of life there for them unfortunately.

Trump is a global security risk and I'd still wager Americans would be better off under Pence. Trump is unstable universally, Pence's madness appears compartmentalized to his religious fanaticism.