People pissing on Religion think they so Smart

FlyLice

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I've noticed a lot of people pissing on religion(s) and saying how stupid people are, sounding like they are God's gift from heaven. So for all these people who think they are so smart thinking there is no God or higher being, etc, what if you're wrong? So if there IS a God, and you guys are all burning in hell, does that actually make you really dumb yourselves? Let's think about this in a "intelligent" or mathmatical way:

Let's take the scenario, that the probability of God's existance is 0.01:

So p(God exists) = 0.01 p(God not exist) = 0.99

You decide not to believe in God. You piss on everyone that believes, and you ridicule and persecute (basically everything God said people would do if you believe in Him). So basically you take this stance:

(0.01 * Eternity in Hell) + (0.99 * You become nothing and lived like a shthole your whole life)

As opposed to believers:

(0.01 * Eternal Life) + (0.99 * Hey, at least you lived a good life)


So for you non-believers, I'm not telling you to stop talking smack (for it's God's free will that allows you to), maybe you should stop and think before you make assumptions, persecute, and think you're Einstein. Maybe you should stop and think if it's really worth it.

PS. even change 0.01 to 0.0001, or 1 - .999bar


EDIT: Eternity in Hell =/= if you live choosing not to believe in God and live a truly good life. Assume Eternity in Hell is only for shtty people.

EDIT2: "Believers" who sht on non-believers are truly not "believers." So don't pull that one; Believer = man who believes in God, doesn't live like a hypocrite, persecuted by man.
 

alien42

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flylice

every religion thinks that they are right and all other religions are wrong

at least i know they are all wrong, mwu hahahaha
 

Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
I've noticed a lot of people pissing on religion(s) and saying how stupid people are, sounding like they are God's gift from heaven. So for all these people who think they are so smart thinking there is no God or higher being, etc, what if you're wrong? So if there IS a God, and you guys are all burning in hell, does that actually make you really dumb yourselves? Let's think about this in a "intelligent" or mathmatical way:

Let's take the scenario, that the probability of God's existance is 0.01:

So p(God exists) = 0.01 p(God not exist) = 0.99

You decide not to believe in God. You piss on everyone that believes, and you ridicule and persecute (basically everything God said people would do if you believe in Him). So basically you take this stance:

(0.01 * Eternity in Hell) + (0.99 * You become nothing and lived like a shthole your whole life)

As opposed to believers:

(0.01 * Eternal Life) + (0.99 * Hey, at least you lived a good life)


So for you non-believers, I'm not telling you to stop talking smack (for it's God's free will that allows you to), maybe you should stop and think before you make assumptions, persecute, and think you're Einstein. Maybe you should stop and think if it's really worth it.

PS. even change 0.01 to 0.0001, or 1 - .999bar

If god is going to punish me to eternal damnation for not believing in him, while I lead a fair and honest life in all other areas, than I would rather burn in hell. The entire concept of going to hell for using our free will to decide what we choose to believe in is utter BS.
If "god" is peaceful and loving I don't think it would matter, unless his ego is so large as to force mass burnings for not having faith in something we can not see.
 

glen

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Pacal's wager never convinced me of anything. Nor do I think it convinced anyone else of anything. But, in response to BroeBo, I am sure there are careful thnkings on BOTH sides of the issue of God's existance.
 

FlyLice

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Originally posted by: alien42
flylice

every religion thinks that they are right and all other religions are wrong

at least i know they are all wrong, mwu hahahaha

so you're saying people who don't believe in God are 100% sure? Not even 0.000000000000000000001 chance?
 

Kadarin

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One of the fallacies with Pascal's Wager is that you're assuming there's only one possible religion/God to believe in.

And why the fck would you want to worship and heap piles of adulation upon a God that threatens you with an eternity in Hell if you don't? Such a God would not be worthy of a wet fart from me...
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
I've noticed a lot of people pissing on religion(s) and saying how stupid people are, sounding like they are God's gift from heaven. So for all these people who think they are so smart thinking there is no God or higher being, etc, what if you're wrong? So if there IS a God, and you guys are all burning in hell, does that actually make you really dumb yourselves? Let's think about this in a "intelligent" or mathmatical way:

Let's take the scenario, that the probability of God's existance is 0.01:

So p(God exists) = 0.01 p(God not exist) = 0.99

You decide not to believe in God. You piss on everyone that believes, and you ridicule and persecute (basically everything God said people would do if you believe in Him). So basically you take this stance:

(0.01 * Eternity in Hell) + (0.99 * You become nothing and lived like a shthole your whole life)

As opposed to believers:

(0.01 * Eternal Life) + (0.99 * Hey, at least you lived a good life)


So for you non-believers, I'm not telling you to stop talking smack (for it's God's free will that allows you to), maybe you should stop and think before you make assumptions, persecute, and think you're Einstein. Maybe you should stop and think if it's really worth it.

PS. even change 0.01 to 0.0001, or 1 - .999bar

how are those stances...? that's like saying 1 + 1
 

datalink7

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People will then often say ?But surely it?s better to remain an Agnostic just in case?? This, to me, suggests such a level of silliness and muddle that I usually edge out of the conversation rather than get sucked into it. (If it turns out that I?ve been wrong all along, and there is in fact a god, and if it further turned out that this kind of legalistic, cross-your-fingers-behind-your-back, Clintonian hair-splitting impressed him, then I think I would chose not to worship him anyway.)?Douglas Adams

I don't bash religious people. I even go to church with my mom on occasion. But I simply don't believe, and faking belief just in case is silly in my opinion.
 

FlyLice

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: FlyLice
I've noticed a lot of people pissing on religion(s) and saying how stupid people are, sounding like they are God's gift from heaven. So for all these people who think they are so smart thinking there is no God or higher being, etc, what if you're wrong? So if there IS a God, and you guys are all burning in hell, does that actually make you really dumb yourselves? Let's think about this in a "intelligent" or mathmatical way:

Let's take the scenario, that the probability of God's existance is 0.01:

So p(God exists) = 0.01 p(God not exist) = 0.99

You decide not to believe in God. You piss on everyone that believes, and you ridicule and persecute (basically everything God said people would do if you believe in Him). So basically you take this stance:

(0.01 * Eternity in Hell) + (0.99 * You become nothing and lived like a shthole your whole life)

As opposed to believers:

(0.01 * Eternal Life) + (0.99 * Hey, at least you lived a good life)


So for you non-believers, I'm not telling you to stop talking smack (for it's God's free will that allows you to), maybe you should stop and think before you make assumptions, persecute, and think you're Einstein. Maybe you should stop and think if it's really worth it.

PS. even change 0.01 to 0.0001, or 1 - .999bar

If god is going to punish me to eternal damnation for not believing in him, while I lead a fair and honest life in all other areas, than I would rather burn in hell. The entire concept of going to hell for using our free will to decide what we choose to believe in is utter BS.
If "god" is peaceful and loving I don't think it would matter, unless his ego is so large as to force mass burnings for not having faith in something we can not see.

That's why I put you treat others like sht etc.
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
Originally posted by: BroeBo
People that don't believe in god are the ones who are thinking.

obviously not if you read my post

So you read pascals wager. Whoopdefreekin doo. Been there done that and don't really care. At least I am thinking and reading up about other reasons/purposes for our existence other then "because god made it that way"
 

Yaotl

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So what if you're wrong then? You would have spent your entire life worshipping something that doesn't exist.
 

Kntx

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
I've noticed a lot of people pissing on religion(s) and saying how stupid people are, sounding like they are God's gift from heaven. So for all these people who think they are so smart thinking there is no God or higher being, etc, what if you're wrong? So if there IS a God, and you guys are all burning in hell, does that actually make you really dumb yourselves? Let's think about this in a "intelligent" or mathmatical way:

Let's take the scenario, that the probability of God's existance is 0.01:

So p(God exists) = 0.01 p(God not exist) = 0.99

You decide not to believe in God. You piss on everyone that believes, and you ridicule and persecute (basically everything God said people would do if you believe in Him). So basically you take this stance:

(0.01 * Eternity in Hell) + (0.99 * You become nothing and lived like a shthole your whole life)

As opposed to believers:

(0.01 * Eternal Life) + (0.99 * Hey, at least you lived a good life)


So for you non-believers, I'm not telling you to stop talking smack (for it's God's free will that allows you to), maybe you should stop and think before you make assumptions, persecute, and think you're Einstein. Maybe you should stop and think if it's really worth it.

PS. even change 0.01 to 0.0001, or 1 - .999bar

If there is a God, who's to say that if you don't belive you'll go to hell? From your arguement it sounds like you belive in God to cover all your bases, are you trying to pull a fast one on GOD?!?!



 

erikistired

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it's either 1) another way to rile people up and ethug out or 2) another reason to make everyone else miserable because the person is miserable. i have lost my faith in the last few years but i don't go around pissing on people who do believe. it's not worth arguing with someone who is like that because it just gives them more reasons to show ethug out.
 

KillyKillall

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Here's an easier way to think about his probability..

If they non-believers are right...then nothing happens to the believers and nothing happens to the non-believers.

If the believers are right...then they go to heaven and the non-believers don't...

I like the odds for the believers betters - either way they come out ok.
 

DaveSimmons

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This assumes you can fool a god with false worship.

I don't advocate claiming people with faith in Zeus or Jesus are stupid, but Pascal's wager (and your paraphrasing of it) certainly is.
 
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