People who don't clean the ice off the tops of their vehicles SUCK

[The Boston Dangler]

for the people that say "don't follow so closely, shithead" a sheet or chunks of ice can peel off of a roof and remain airborne for several seconds. 18-wheelers are the worst.

 

[A Casual Fitz]

Originally posted by: shocksyde

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Driving to work this morning, a huge sheet of ice blew off the top of a Ford Explorer and slammed into my windshield. Luckily nothing happened, but I was totally blind for a few moments. It should be a moving violation.

It is. I had the same thing happen to me and I happened to be going to the same gas station as the woman who was driving the other car. I calmly told her to remove the ice from the top of her car before driving and she completely flipped out on me. Idiots are idiots, there's nothing you can do about it.

She flipped out at you? AHHH what's wrong with people?

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I think we can agree the OP learned a valuable lesson. Don't drive behind cars with sheets of ice on them.

Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should first get close enough to the car in front of me to check out if there's ice on the roof, when I see that there is I should then drop back a safe distance. Perfect. How about people do the responsible thing and just clean their cars before they get out on the highway and endanger others?

...Or you could just stay a reasonable distance behind the car the whole time...

I was. I got hit with ice. Reasonable distance and safe-from-flying-sheets-of-ice distance are not the same thing.

then tell us how close you were

I was however far I'd normally be from a car in front of me. A reasonable distance. I wasn't tailgating. Sorry, I don't have an precise number to give you.

You should. You should always be aware of your following distance, measured in seconds as you pass an object. You should have had plenty of time to see the ice sheet and slow down, stop or move.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Driving to work this morning, a huge sheet of ice blew off the top of a Ford Explorer and slammed into my windshield. Luckily nothing happened, but I was totally blind for a few moments. It should be a moving violation.

Careless Driving (here in NJ at least) covers pretty much anything stupid you might do behind the wheel.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Anonemous
The ice could also hit adjacent lanes and not necessarily the car behind it.

They're following too close.
</IcebergSlim>

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
She flipped out at you? AHHH what's wrong with people?

I'M PERFECT YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU DON'T KNOW ME DON'T JUDGE ME!!!!

Beeyotch.

 

[Farang]

I don't scrape... where I lived with snow it would pile up like a foot per day, I'm not going to scrape my entire goddamn car clean every day while it is 0 degrees outside. I wasn't going on highways though, city driving.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm guilty of that myself, in fact I have about 2 inches of ice on the top of my car as I type this. It ain't gona come off at any time soon though without any effort. Been picking away at it a bit every morning, hopefully it will be gone by May.

But yeah I make sure anything loose is not on the car, that is very dangerous. the front of the car is important too, I've done the mistake of not bothering to clear the bumper and yeah, I got it in the windchill.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BlackTigers

Originally posted by: TallBill
There is a 0 percent chance that I'll scrape the top of my car. Call me an asshole, but I'm just not doing it.

Yeah, I don't scrape mine either.

But unless you're literally diving a go kart, nothing is going to hit your car.

You guys are both inconsiderate fools.

I drive an Acura TL and got hit. It's not a go cart.

I'll admit that I clear all the snow/ice off my car only on very rare occasions. I do clear the hood so it doesn't hit my own windshield though.

Funny - I live in western NY - you know, that area that's known for having a LOT of snow? 25 miles from my house, the snow report shows 96" of snow so far this season. But you know what? With all this snow, I oddly can't recall ever being hit by snow or ice coming off someone else's car. But, I've seen it come flying off cars thousands of times; sometimes, if it's a big enough piece, it looks really cool. The fools aren't people like TallBIll and BlackTigers. The fools are the people who get hit by the snow. Let me explain this in simple terms: It's YOUR FAULT for following too closely.

Yes, that's right, you're following too closely if your car got hit. Geez, I thought the safe driving distance was two seconds behind the car in front of you. Wow, admittedly, I've been following too closely too!

According to the National Safety Council, the organization that publishes Defensive Driving materials for all such classes offered nationally, the minimum safe following distance is three seconds.

Now, don't make me open up a can of physics whoop ass to prove that there's no f'ing way the snow from a vehicle is in the air for 3 seconds (or even 2 seconds) after falling from a vehicle, cause you know I can do it. Also, contrary to what some idiots would believe, when the snow leaves the vehicle, it goes backwards with respect to the vehicle (obviously), BUT it's still moving forward with respect to the road. That means that even if it was in the air exactly 2 seconds, and you were following exactly 2 seconds behind, then you still wouldn't get hit by the snow (or ice.)


Sorry, no sympathy for you whiners from me.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BlackTigers

Originally posted by: TallBill
There is a 0 percent chance that I'll scrape the top of my car. Call me an asshole, but I'm just not doing it.

Yeah, I don't scrape mine either.

But unless you're literally diving a go kart, nothing is going to hit your car.

You guys are both inconsiderate fools.

I drive an Acura TL and got hit. It's not a go cart.

I'll admit that I clear all the snow/ice off my car only on very rare occasions. I do clear the hood so it doesn't hit my own windshield though.

Funny - I live in western NY - you know, that area that's known for having a LOT of snow? 25 miles from my house, the snow report shows 96" of snow so far this season. But you know what? With all this snow, I oddly can't recall ever being hit by snow or ice coming off someone else's car. But, I've seen it come flying off cars thousands of times; sometimes, if it's a big enough piece, it looks really cool. The fools aren't people like TallBIll and BlackTigers. The fools are the people who get hit by the snow. Let me explain this in simple terms: It's YOUR FAULT for following too closely.

Yes, that's right, you're following too closely if your car got hit. Geez, I thought the safe driving distance was two seconds behind the car in front of you. Wow, admittedly, I've been following too closely too!

According to the National Safety Council, the organization that publishes Defensive Driving materials for all such classes offered nationally, the minimum safe following distance is three seconds.

Now, don't make me open up a can of physics whoop ass to prove that there's no f'ing way the snow from a vehicle is in the air for 3 seconds (or even 2 seconds) after falling from a vehicle, cause you know I can do it. Also, contrary to what some idiots would believe, when the snow leaves the vehicle, it goes backwards with respect to the vehicle (obviously), BUT it's still moving forward with respect to the road. That means that even if it was in the air exactly 2 seconds, and you were following exactly 2 seconds behind, then you still wouldn't get hit by the snow (or ice.)


Sorry, no sympathy for you whiners from me.

Yeah, I'm still with the Doc on this one. I drove my car today with a good 6 inches on the roof and didn't white wall anyone or even come close to hitting anyone with ice.. It was almost all gone in 2 miles of highway speed driving.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: shocksyde

I'm glad I never drive behind you, b/c I'd probably shoot out your damn tires. You realize when you drive down the road and 6 inches of snow is blowing off your roof it creates a freakin' snow screen for the people behind you? Lazy ass.

Clearly you are lying in one of the two parts of your statement. Because if you have experienced this snow screen and fired rounds because of it you would be sitting in jail. So you either tailgate a lot and imagine shooting at people's cars, or you see snow falling off of cars and use common sense to not follow to close.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: shocksyde

I'm glad I never drive behind you, b/c I'd probably shoot out your damn tires. You realize when you drive down the road and 6 inches of snow is blowing off your roof it creates a freakin' snow screen for the people behind you? Lazy ass.

Clearly you are lying in one of the two parts of your statement. Because if you have experienced this snow screen and fired rounds because of it you would be sitting in jail. So you either tailgate a lot and imagine shooting at people's cars, or you see snow falling off of cars and use common sense to not follow to close.

This is clearly bullshit.. I mean how long could a snow screen last even if there was 5 feet of snow on top of a car. And by snow screen I mean so much snow that your windshield wipers could not get rid of it fast enough and you unable to see out the windshield. I'm guessing a few seconds.. with a normal amount of 0-1 ft, all of the snow on the top of the car coming off at once would probably cause it to happen for half a second.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BlackTigers

Originally posted by: TallBill
There is a 0 percent chance that I'll scrape the top of my car. Call me an asshole, but I'm just not doing it.

Yeah, I don't scrape mine either.

But unless you're literally diving a go kart, nothing is going to hit your car.

You guys are both inconsiderate fools.

I drive an Acura TL and got hit. It's not a go cart.

I'll admit that I clear all the snow/ice off my car only on very rare occasions. I do clear the hood so it doesn't hit my own windshield though.

Funny - I live in western NY - you know, that area that's known for having a LOT of snow? 25 miles from my house, the snow report shows 96" of snow so far this season. But you know what? With all this snow, I oddly can't recall ever being hit by snow or ice coming off someone else's car. But, I've seen it come flying off cars thousands of times; sometimes, if it's a big enough piece, it looks really cool. The fools aren't people like TallBIll and BlackTigers. The fools are the people who get hit by the snow. Let me explain this in simple terms: It's YOUR FAULT for following too closely.

Yes, that's right, you're following too closely if your car got hit. Geez, I thought the safe driving distance was two seconds behind the car in front of you. Wow, admittedly, I've been following too closely too!

According to the National Safety Council, the organization that publishes Defensive Driving materials for all such classes offered nationally, the minimum safe following distance is three seconds.

Now, don't make me open up a can of physics whoop ass to prove that there's no f'ing way the snow from a vehicle is in the air for 3 seconds (or even 2 seconds) after falling from a vehicle, cause you know I can do it. Also, contrary to what some idiots would believe, when the snow leaves the vehicle, it goes backwards with respect to the vehicle (obviously), BUT it's still moving forward with respect to the road. That means that even if it was in the air exactly 2 seconds, and you were following exactly 2 seconds behind, then you still wouldn't get hit by the snow (or ice.)


Sorry, no sympathy for you whiners from me.

Yeah, I'm still with the Doc on this one. I drove my car today with a good 6 inches on the roof and didn't white wall anyone or even come close to hitting anyone with ice.. It was almost all gone in 2 miles of highway speed driving.

And I just saw one guy splatter ice/snow from his car onto the two cars in the lanes next to him. I guess they shouldn't have been in those lanes either.

Edit:MS paint approximating what happened.. One large sheet got lifted up with the highest pieces going a couple to 5 feet above the car. As it lifted it broke up with the largest chunk being about a foot by a foot and half. The pieces flew left, backwards, and right from the car. No damage, but still sucks having to deal with crap flying off other people's cars.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: shocksyde

I'm glad I never drive behind you, b/c I'd probably shoot out your damn tires. You realize when you drive down the road and 6 inches of snow is blowing off your roof it creates a freakin' snow screen for the people behind you? Lazy ass.

Clearly you are lying in one of the two parts of your statement. Because if you have experienced this snow screen and fired rounds because of it you would be sitting in jail. So you either tailgate a lot and imagine shooting at people's cars, or you see snow falling off of cars and use common sense to not follow to close.

This is clearly bullshit.. I mean how long could a snow screen last even if there was 5 feet of snow on top of a car. And by snow screen I mean so much snow that your windshield wipers could not get rid of it fast enough and you unable to see out the windshield. I'm guessing a few seconds.. with a normal amount of 0-1 ft, all of the snow on the top of the car coming off at once would probably cause it to happen for half a second.

Yeah, most of my snow was gone by the time I finished merging onto the highway. Sorry, but I didn't blind anyone. The only way this could happen is if I cut someone off upon immediate entrance to the highway which would very temporarily blind them and force them into a situation where they were following to close not at their own fault.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: shocksyde

I'm glad I never drive behind you, b/c I'd probably shoot out your damn tires. You realize when you drive down the road and 6 inches of snow is blowing off your roof it creates a freakin' snow screen for the people behind you? Lazy ass.

Clearly you are lying in one of the two parts of your statement. Because if you have experienced this snow screen and fired rounds because of it you would be sitting in jail. So you either tailgate a lot and imagine shooting at people's cars, or you see snow falling off of cars and use common sense to not follow to close.

This is clearly bullshit.. I mean how long could a snow screen last even if there was 5 feet of snow on top of a car. And by snow screen I mean so much snow that your windshield wipers could not get rid of it fast enough and you unable to see out the windshield. I'm guessing a few seconds.. with a normal amount of 0-1 ft, all of the snow on the top of the car coming off at once would probably cause it to happen for half a second.

It's not that there's a ton of snow hitting the windshield, it's like driving though dense fog.


Chunks of stuff flying off vehicles can stay airborn for much longer than it takes someone at a reasonable following distance to catch up. Evasive maneuvering is not always an option either. Road conditions after a snowfall are not conducive to slamming on your brakes or jerking to one side or the other to avoid flying ice.

I'm 23 now, and have lived in WI for my entire life. I've never been in a vehicle that's been hit by ice, but I have been in situations where some vehicle ahead of me has enough snow streaming off of it to create white-out conditions.

I always clean my car off entirely. If there's a sheet of ice on it, I use gentle but firm strikes from a gloved fist to shatter the ice, then brush it off, but usually if ice is expected, I'll go out and clean my car during the storm to minimize what actually sticks.

 

[Duddy]

I got hit going 65. Nearly died.

The ice came off of a Jeep and landed right on my windshield. The windshield caved in and cut the crap out of my hands.

Somehow, by an act of God I suppose, I was able to slow down and stop on the side of the road.

I was about 2 car length's behind him. The already high winds picked up the ice like a sheet and it literally flew at me.

Please, for the sake of other people's lives, don't get on the highway with ice on your roof.


If I find you doing it, I'll follow you to your destination and murder you by way of ice cycle sodomy.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BlackTigers

Originally posted by: TallBill
There is a 0 percent chance that I'll scrape the top of my car. Call me an asshole, but I'm just not doing it.

Yeah, I don't scrape mine either.

But unless you're literally diving a go kart, nothing is going to hit your car.

You guys are both inconsiderate fools.

I drive an Acura TL and got hit. It's not a go cart.

Back up a little? I've never even come close to getting hit by ice chunks from another car. The top of the car is the hardest part to scrape. Not only is it physically a pain in the ass to try to clean, but it doesn't have heat blowing on it like the front or back.

I consider it my tailgater defense.

You used to be 6'6". Non internet height 5'6"?

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: Duddy
I got hit going 65. Nearly died.

The ice came off of a Jeep and landed right on my windshield. The windshield caved in and cut the crap out of my hands.

Somehow, by an act of God I suppose, I was able to slow down and stop on the side of the road.

I was about 2 car length's behind him. The already high winds picked up the ice like a sheet and it literally flew at me.

I'm in the "scrape it off" camp, but that's following too close for 65 MPH, especially if road is wet.

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Anonemous
The ice could also hit adjacent lanes and not necessarily the car behind it.

They're following too close.
</IcebergSlim>

^

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Duddy
I got hit going 65. Nearly died.

The ice came off of a Jeep and landed right on my windshield. The windshield caved in and cut the crap out of my hands.

Somehow, by an act of God I suppose, I was able to slow down and stop on the side of the road.

I was about 2 car length's behind him. The already high winds picked up the ice like a sheet and it literally flew at me.

Please, for the sake of other people's lives, don't get on the highway with ice on your roof.


If I find you doing it, I'll follow you to your destination and murder you by way of ice cycle sodomy.

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Psssst
At 65mph, 2 car lengths is no where near a safe distance. And, it didn't fly at you... it was moving forward. You just happened to be moving forward faster than it was.
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[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Duddy
I got hit going 65. Nearly died.

The ice came off of a Jeep and landed right on my windshield. The windshield caved in and cut the crap out of my hands.

Somehow, by an act of God I suppose, I was able to slow down and stop on the side of the road.

I was about 2 car length's behind him. The already high winds picked up the ice like a sheet and it literally flew at me.

Please, for the sake of other people's lives, don't get on the highway with ice on your roof.


If I find you doing it, I'll follow you to your destination and murder you by way of ice cycle sodomy.

See, I can't recall ever seeing a sheet of ice come off someone's car that was thick enough to smash in a following vehicle's windshield.

I've seen a camper shell come off a pickup truck and float 20+ feet into the air and come crashing down on the highway but never a sheet of ice.

I've seen tons of snow fly off cars and I've seen sheets of ice and snow slide off my own car but never has it blown off high enough or been thick enough to do any damage to another vehicle.

Yeah, I guess if you have a foot of ice on the roof of your car you should probably do something about that before you hop on the freeway...:roll:

 

[fire400]

I can't really think of a scenario to clear the sheet of ice projecting onto your windshield except to turn the hazard lights on, roll down the windows and remove it with your hands or a tool as quickly as possible while still keeping up with traffic.
If it tumbles down to the ground and another car runs into it, better pray again...

Good luck Great Plains states and New Yorkers, everyone else, good luck the same.

 

[Bignate603]

It's quite funny when somebody stomps on their brakes and has a sheet of snow and ice slide over their windshield.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: fire400
I can't really think of a scenario to clear the sheet of ice projecting onto your windshield except to turn the hazard lights on, roll down the windows and remove it with your hands or a tool as quickly as possible while still keeping up with traffic.
If it tumbles down to the ground and another car runs into it, better pray again...

Good luck Great Plains states and New Yorkers, everyone else, good luck the same.

It's ice, not superglue. It just slides off your windshield and your wipers clear the residue. As for other cars hitting it, unless it's a REALLY big piece they just roll right over it.

I admit that I don't have a great deal of experience with super wintery conditions (2 years in Indiana and a handful of months along the East Coast is the limit of my experience), but I can't say I ever recall being threatened by ice/snow falling off of someone's roof. I've certainly been behind people when it happened.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Duddy
I got hit going 65. Nearly died.

The ice came off of a Jeep and landed right on my windshield. The windshield caved in and cut the crap out of my hands.

Somehow, by an act of God I suppose, I was able to slow down and stop on the side of the road.

I was about 2 car length's behind him. The already high winds picked up the ice like a sheet and it literally flew at me.

Please, for the sake of other people's lives, don't get on the highway with ice on your roof.


If I find you doing it, I'll follow you to your destination and murder you by way of ice cycle sodomy.

Don't drive 30 feet behind another car on the highway. That is WAY to close.

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

You used to be 6'6". Non internet height 5'6"?

It's all about leverage, you have barely any to get a good scrape of the top because of the angle you have to hold your arms at. Regardless, I've never had a sheet of ice come off of my car.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: ThePresence
It should be a moving violation.

I believe it is in many places.

indeed

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: TallBill
There is a 0 percent chance that I'll scrape the top of my car. Call me an asshole, but I'm just not doing it.

fuck you, asshole.

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