People who hate America are claiming the war to liberate Iraq was really about oil

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But documents from October and November the previous year paint a very different picture.

Five months before the March 2003 invasion, Baroness Symons, then the Trade Minister, told BP that the Government believed British energy firms should be given a share of Iraq's enormous oil and gas reserves as a reward for Tony Blair's military commitment to US plans for regime change.

The papers show that Lady Symons agreed to lobby the Bush administration on BP's behalf because the oil giant feared it was being "locked out" of deals that Washington was quietly striking with US, French and Russian governments and their energy firms.

Minutes of a meeting with BP, Shell and BG (formerly British Gas) on 31 October 2002 read: "Baroness Symons agreed that it would be difficult to justify British companies losing out in Iraq in that way if the UK had itself been a conspicuous supporter of the US government throughout the crisis."

The minister then promised to "report back to the companies before Christmas" on her lobbying efforts.

The Foreign Office invited BP in on 6 November 2002 to talk about opportunities in Iraq "post regime change". Its minutes state: "Iraq is the big oil prospect. BP is desperate to get in there and anxious that political deals should not deny them the opportunity."

After another meeting, this one in October 2002, the Foreign Office's Middle East director at the time, Edward Chaplin, noted: "Shell and BP could not afford not to have a stake in [Iraq] for the sake of their long-term future... We were determined to get a fair slice of the action for UK companies in a post-Saddam Iraq."

Whereas BP was insisting in public that it had "no strategic interest" in Iraq, in private it told the Foreign Office that Iraq was "more important than anything we've seen for a long time".

BP was concerned that if Washington allowed TotalFinaElf's existing contact with Saddam Hussein to stand after the invasion it would make the French conglomerate the world's leading oil company. BP told the Government it was willing to take "big risks" to get a share of the Iraqi reserves, the second largest in the world.

This is pathetic! How low will these socialist libtards go to try and justify their hatred for America?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-oil-firms-and-invasion-of-iraq-2269610.html
 

HAL9000

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This is quite a common thought over this side of the pond... Have you really not heard this before?!
 

spidey07

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Then where is the oil? Where are the spoils from our plundering!

Gas at 4. Thanks to Obama. Where's the oil?
 

Matthiasa

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You used a British news source. Why do you hate America?

The obvious answer is he is really just a self hating "socialist libtard".

As for it being about oil why wouldn't an oil company try to make it about oil in a country that has quite a bit of it?
Then where is the oil? Where are the spoils from our plundering!

Gas at 4. Thanks to Obama. Where's the oil?

Oil is a commodity so who owns isn't important when its being sold.
All that would do is bring money to the companies selling it not lowering the actual price we get it at... Again it being a commodity...
 
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Everyone knows that GW Bush was using the wars to artificially inflate prices at the pump for the benefit of his oil cronies. It was plain to see because it's so much better now. Gas is cheaper than dirt.
 

Steeplerot

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The big oil companies already signed off on the fields, this happened about 2 years ago. This is why the troops are being hustled elsewhere for the imperialists. Job finished.
 
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The big oil companies already signed off on the fields, this happened about 2 years ago. This is why the troops are being hustled elsewhere for the imperialists. Job finished.
Really? Who got the contracts for the Iraq fields? Please elaborate and provide some actual details instead of making some vague comment.

Can't wait to hear how you dance around this.
 

xj0hnx

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It's OK. Few in here take steeplerot seriously. It's always fun to watch her screw up the lacing of her jackboots though.

That link is obviously fake, 9/11 was done by Bush so he could start the Iraq war and get the oil, everyone knows this. Take it away Steeple ...er, sorry, Red.
 

Steeplerot

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You guys believe that shit? While back in the real world: March 28, 2011


Exxon Mobil's partners in the project include two Iraqi state-owned companies and an affiliate of Royal Dutch Shell PLC. The field's lead contractor, with a 60 percent interest, is ExxonMobil Iraq. More than 1,600 Iraqis are working at the 8.6 billion barrel field, one of Iraq's largest.

Under an agreement between Iraq and the companies, production from the West Qurna I field should reach 2.825 million barrels a day after 6 to 7 years.

Shares of Exxon Mobil rose 12 cents to $83.74 in midday trading.


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9M8CF9G0.htm

Clueless fools. Of course the imperialists got their oil, you think they pulled the country out of a hat to invade? There are plenty of dictators out there. And sure, we chose Libya also out of a hat.

I got one Brooklyn bridge.. going cheap!
 
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You guys believe that shit? While back in the real world: March 28, 2011


Exxon Mobil's partners in the project include two Iraqi state-owned companies and an affiliate of Royal Dutch Shell PLC. The field's lead contractor, with a 60 percent interest, is ExxonMobil Iraq. More than 1,600 Iraqis are working at the 8.6 billion barrel field, one of Iraq's largest.

Under an agreement between Iraq and the companies, production from the West Qurna I field should reach 2.825 million barrels a day after 6 to 7 years.

Shares of Exxon Mobil rose 12 cents to $83.74 in midday trading.


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9M8CF9G0.htm

Clueless fools. Of course the imperialists got their oil, you think they pulled the country out of a hat to invade? There are plenty of dictators out there. And sure, we chose Libya also out of a hat.

I got one Brooklyn bridge.. going cheap!
It's a drilling project, moron, not an oil ownership. Try again.
 

Steeplerot

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It's a drilling project

No shit, Iraqis oil infrastructure has been crap since the I-I war in the 80s. The point of the war is to rebuild the infrastructure for us. And of course make some bank for cheneys buddies fixing what we blew up.

Quite transparent if you follow the money and look at the status quo history of our foreign policy. Same shit, to deny it is to think the USA suddenly had some big revelation about giving up imperialism. The odds of this change of heart are laughable, epically looking at who the big players are and how much they have to gain from it.

Like someone else said, welcome to 2004, glad you could join us.
 
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IGBT

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then all that holds true for libya as well. behind it all.. your obama is a oil wolf.
 

Steeplerot

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your obama is a oil wolf.

"your"? he is a created product of the corporate media from the cold war era propaganda technology of the tee-vee, no less then Repubs.

I didn't vote for Big O btw. I wrote in the little guy.
 
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No shit, Iraqis oil infrastructure has been crap since the I-I war in the 80s. The point of the war is to rebuild the infrastructure for us. And of course make some bank for cheneys buddies fixing what we blew up.

Quite transparent if you follow the money and look at the status quo of our foreign policy. Same shit.
Except US companies haven't been awarded the actual oil production contracts.

Of course many US businesses will win drilling contracts. We are number 1 in the world in that particular expertise so it is no surprise we will win some of those. Development contracts != production contracts though and the US still has to buy oil on the world market just like everybody else.

iow, we receive no special treatment or price advantage by invading Iraq. So stuff those bullshit claims where your idiotic ideologies reside.
 
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Steeplerot

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iow, we receive no special treatment or price advantage by invading Iraq. So stuff those bullshit claims where your idiotic ideologies reside.

Reality is USA companies ARE the ones running it. The devil is in the details of course you wish to ignore to keep living this "USA are on a righteous crusade!" conspiracy shit from 2003.
 
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Reality is USA companies ARE the ones running it. The devil is in the details of course you wish to ignore to keep living this "USA are on a righteous crusade!" conspiracy shit from 2003.
Keep telling yourself that while the facts show otherwise. Repeating a mantra doesn't make it true. It just makes you look like a fool stuck in the talking points of 2003.
 
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