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MrDudeMan

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I just find it to be amusing when people think science and religion are in conflict. They aren't. I am an engineer and use science every day, but I still believe in God.
 

manowar821

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Mar 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: sao123
well lets see... when isreal sinned, they got ther butts kicked and taken into captivity to be slaves by other empires.

The religous are trying to prevent that from happening to this country. It was founded on religion, and needs to stay that way, through laws and governing. Eventually this country is going to make God angry enough, that we will lose his blessing and become a nonfactor in this world or even wipe it off this earth totally. Every religion has a commission to increase in numbers, they are doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to.

Your god sounds like a real piece of shit.
 

Don66

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Jan 5, 2000
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HEBREWS 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

11:1 Living by Faith

SUMMARY OF HEBREWS 11:

Faith Explained. The Faith of the Elders. Remarkable Examples of Ancient Faith. All Seeking for a Better Country. The Victories of Faith. The Sufferings Ended by Faith. Christians Exhorted to Follow These Glorious Examples.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for. The old meaning of substance, as well as of hupostasis, the Greek word here used, is stand under, that is, to be a foundation. Faith is the foundation on which all our hopes for the future are built.

The evidence of things not seen. Rather, the conviction or persuasion of things not seen. Without faith we would be limited to the very narrow world comprehended by the senses.

 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Don66
The evidence of things not seen. Rather, the conviction or persuasion of things not seen. Without faith we would be limited to the very narrow world comprehended by the senses.

That world is neither narrow nor limiting. In all likelihood everything that exists is in it. It is as wide as world can be, and has already proven itself to be full of previously unimaginable wonders. I know that the next level of this argument goes something like, "Then how can you say for sure that God isn't in it"? I'm going to preempt you by saying that I can't. I simply doubt it strongly. Whatever is found, the probability of any of it being that specific thing that humans dreamed up for their own purposes seems very low.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: sao123
well lets see... when isreal sinned, they got ther butts kicked and taken into captivity to be slaves by other empires.

The religous are trying to prevent that from happening to this country. It was founded on religion, and needs to stay that way, through laws and governing.

No it wasn't. Yet more worthless retarded brainwashing.

Eventually this country is going to make God angry enough, that we will lose his blessing and become a nonfactor in this world or even wipe it off this earth totally.

Pray to your god to prove himself to the world. I don't worship gods who play mind games.

Every religion has a commission to increase in numbers, they are doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to.

Actually, no they don't. Christianity and Islam are practically the only 2 religions in the WORLD that say "follow us or die."

You're just another brainless fool, Sao.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Gandalf describes it well when he is talking to Merry at Minas Tirith



who knows dude. they die, that's all we know.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: sao123

It was not meant to be the equivolent of a "go to hell" of "fvck off", I proposed a repeatable verfiiable scientific experiment to answer the question, with 3 possible outcomes:
a) you die and cease to exist
b) you die and wake up in heaven/hell
c) you die and wake up a cow

thats not a valid scientific experiment and i expect that if you understood the relatively simple concepts behind such a thing that...

I'm neither an abortion clinic bomber, and im not against medicine...but I do take the bible very literally. Genesis, Adam, Eve, Moses, it all happened exactly as its written. I believe the 2nd coming and all the bad things of revelation are forthcoming. I'm not afraid to tell people the truth that unless they repent, they will go to hell.

...well that you wouldnt take the bible so literally. youre basically telling us that you accept anything in that book because someone told you, (probably while you were a child) (but im speculating), that it was true just because and you dont have the ability to think for yourself. i was like that...until i started to go through puberty.

so lets go back to your "experiment"

its not repeatable. basically its just killing people and...what, wishing for a reply? we already have nuts that say they saw god or jesus and came back here and people who say they existed in previous lives as other humans, neither of which you can verify.

Skeptic Carl Sagan asked the Dalai Lama what would he do if a fundamental tenet of his religion (reincarnation) was definitively disproved by science. The Dalai Lama answered; "if science can disprove reincarnation, Tibetan Buddhism would abandon reincarnation... but it's going to be mighty hard to disprove reincarnation." (taken from the wiki article on reincarnation, publlished in one of sagans books)

Basically your argument is "heres something wildly mythical and untestable, but hey, if you can disprove, maybe ill listen"

what a horrible, ignorant way to refer to something as science
 

Mide

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Mar 27, 2008
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They die. There is no god....the concept was created by those who want to control people. Biblethumpers have no proof and that's something they'll never understand.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
I just find it to be amusing when people think science and religion are in conflict. They aren't. I am an engineer and use science every day, but I still believe in God.

Science and theism may not be in conflict because science makes no claims as to the existence of a deity. Science and religion? Bigtime.
 

sutahz

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Dec 14, 2007
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: ric1287
jesus christ religious people frighten me.

Although, I do wish my mind was capable of picking one subject to ignore all logic with. Not being able to think for yourself various times through the day must be an interesting experience.

oh the irony of using the name jesus christ and then stating that opinion. :laugh:

Jesus Christ is not only a name but an expression as well. You already knew that though, you were just being snide.
 
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