This is no surprise considering blacks are the only race that has mastered the technologies behind weaponized skittles.
Let's take just one major factor - policing is slashed in black communities. As a result, the communities become closer to 'lawless zones'.
I've lived in communities where the police rarely patrolled. There were zero murders. The police in the metro area where i work heavily patrol the trouble neighborhoods.
These communities are perceived as lawless because the people living in them make it so. It has nothing to do with police presence.
If this were the case you would think there would be police on every street corner to keep the populace behaving.
Ideally, the inner-city black community would take some responsibility for the patterns and push for cultural changes internally. Historically, whites have been accused of being racist. So white culture responded by bending over backwards to be politically correct, etc. Whites often seem to want to prove that they're not racist. I haven't really seen anything in the black community to try to actively combat the negative stereotypes that apply to them. At some point you have to stop blaming other people for stereotypes, and try to change the underlying facts.
Realistically, the black community needs a new leader that is not stuck in the outdated 1960s race paradigm.
If the Kansas City preventive patrol experiment is to be believed (and yes, I know that social science isn't really science) then simply adding crime patrols to a neighborhood accomplishes nothing. You need interaction and cooperation between citizens and law enforcement. Cops driving around in cars don't do shit.
Many many good things happen in the black community, but no one talks about it. You'll trash Sharpton and Jackson, but those guys and their programs actively work everyday to change things in the black community. You'll skip over 8 good stories of blacks just to get to one bad one. You know nothing about the black community.
I've lived in communities where the police rarely patrolled. There were zero murders. The police in the metro area where i work heavily patrol the trouble neighborhoods.
These communities are perceived as lawless because the people living in them make it so. It has nothing to do with police presence.
If this were the case you would think there would be police on every street corner to keep the populace behaving.
Unless things have changed there are no regs regarding the carrying of handguns in Vt, and the per capita crime rate is low. People may not see police for days, yet crime is still low. That's because it's considered wrong to shoot someone. Thats a key difference. Further, how the "great society" was implemented is directly responsible for todays problems. It's great at perpetuating poverty and ignorance, but that would be denied.
Before the implementation of the Great Society in 1965 the US poverty rate was approximately 18%, and had repeatedly topped 20%. After its implementation, even in severe recessions, the poverty rate never got close to that high again.
It's hard to figure how a program would be 'great at perpetuating poverty' when poverty has hugely decreased since its introduction.
LOL. Romney, a Harvard graduate, accuses Obama of being a Harvard elitist.
http://www.inquisitr.com/216210/mitt-romney-says-obama-spent-too-much-time-at-harvard-but-so-did-he/
Many many good things happen in the black community, but no one talks about it. You'll trash Sharpton and Jackson, but those guys and their programs actively work everyday to change things in the black community.
You'll skip over 8 good stories of blacks just to get to one bad one. You know nothing about the black community.
It's not hard at all. The program has gone (at least in the several states I've lived in) from a helping hand to a multigenerational trap.When it is acceptable, no even desirable, to have children in order to stay on medicaid and the system allows it, then something is wrong.
The why is simple. Ghetto culture sucks. It glorifies crime, violence and ignorance and places no stigma on out of wedlock pregnancy while sneering at work, education & obeying the law.
Ideally, the inner-city black community would take some responsibility for the patterns and push for cultural changes internally. Historically, whites have been accused of being racist. So white culture responded by bending over backwards to be politically correct, etc. Whites often seem to want to prove that they're not racist. I haven't really seen anything in the black community to try to actively combat the negative stereotypes that apply to them. At some point you have to stop blaming other people for stereotypes, and try to change the underlying facts.
Realistically, the black community needs a new leader that is not stuck in the outdated 1960s race paradigm.
Way to say a whole lot of nothing, while trying to make yourself sound holier than thou.It's amazing how oblivious a lot of non-blacks are about issues.
Let's take just one major factor - policing is slashed in black communities. As a result, the communities become closer to 'lawless zones'.
Any community that happens in sees a rise in crime.
But there's zero awareness of that as a factor, of 'conservative policies'. Just finger wagging blame the victim crap.
It's a complicated issue with things needed by all parties - but the very last in line to do theit part of what's needed are the 'white conservatives'. They're ignorant of the issues.
Ignorant of what their party's policies have done to contribute and other things.
+1This is no surprise considering blacks are the only race that has mastered the technologies behind weaponized skittles.
Stories about good things don't usually make the news. Unless maybe they involve Obama or puppies. Regular people doing good things aren't considered news because, to paraphrase Chris Rock, "You're supposed to do good things."Many many good things happen in the black community, but no one talks about it. You'll trash Sharpton and Jackson, but those guys and their programs actively work everyday to change things in the black community. You'll skip over 8 good stories of blacks just to get to one bad one. You know nothing about the black community.
how did i know you'd be in here defending the violence . .Many many good things happen in the black community, but no one talks about it. You'll trash Sharpton and Jackson, but those guys and their programs actively work everyday to change things in the black community. You'll skip over 8 good stories of blacks just to get to one bad one. You know nothing about the black community.
i don't have a problem with the black community in general, at all. i have a problem with the ghetto black community in specific.My issue is that lots of energy is poured into accusations of racism (profiling, racial disparity in criminal justice) while not so much is poured into practical measures that might improve the lives. Such as community self-policing. Or calling for more cooperation with the police.
We're talking about crime here. (And for me, I'm also talking about inner-city black American culture. I'm not talking about all people with African descent.) What good things have been happening in that community specifically with regard to crime? I mostly hear defensiveness from black leaders, if anything. It's always about the police, never about ways to change the crime that fuels the police presence and the profiling in the first place.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I try not to draw conclusions based on small samples like you're suggesting. These statistics reveal that there may be particular issues in a certain American community. Are you saying that we should ignore the stats because some inner-city blacks are doing a lot of good?
The Great Society was Medicare and Medicaid. Poverty has gone down since the adoption of those 2 programs. How then do they "perpetuate poverty?" Not in the anecdotal case, but in the broad sense of all of society and our standard of living. Looks like you sidestepped his point.
Considering that poverty in the inner city is still abysmal and medicaid has not substantially changed to help correct this my point holds. There is a proper role for these programs however this real problem exists. Now why do you sidestep that the program hasn't been fixed?
Btw perhaps if you consider the thread title the context will be easier.
Fox said that from 2002 to 2006, the rate of murder committed by black male teens rose 52 percent.
"Violence is down among whites of all ages and both genders; it's up among black males, not black females,"
My issue is that lots of energy is poured into accusations of racism (profiling, racial disparity in criminal justice) while not so much is poured into practical measures that might improve the lives. Such as community self-policing. Or calling for more cooperation with the police.
The why is simple. Ghetto culture sucks. It glorifies crime, violence and ignorance and places no stigma on out of wedlock pregnancy while sneering at work, education & obeying the law.
Not side stepping anything here. I think you're committing the fallacy of saying, Medicaid hasn't cured all poverty. Therefore, Medicaid is a failure. In spite of evidence that the poverty rate significantly declined after its adoption. One possible argument could be that it was Medicare and not Medicaid that diminished the poverty rate, or that something else was causative. I don't think you can just ignore the data though.
So far as inner cities, yeah there continues to be major problems. The subject of the thread is crime. And crime, BTW, in toto, has gone way down over the past 20 years. All crime in basically all categories, save a few things like identity theft and other crimes made possible by IT.
- wolf
Read this: http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-4164941.html
Over 90% of violent crimes against blacks are committ by other blacks. Where are the outrage and marchings?
Anyone (the usual suspects) blame on whitey/Bush/Republicans/The Pope/Mother Theresa/Fill In The Blank Excuses/Ect. yet?
Data from the FBI (2010) - Arrests (all) by race = http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43 - Whites = 69.4% (72.4% of total general population), Blacks = 28% (12.6% of total general population), Native Americans = 1.4% (0.9% of total general population) , Asians = 1.2% (4.8% of total general population)
Roll down and read the table 43b - arrests by under 18 of age - look at murder and manslaughter - look which group has the MOST (56.2%), then robbery - 66.7%.
Are you kidding me? You haven't heard about "No snitch" or "Sniches Get Hit" in certan group/communities?