It's amazing how oblivious a lot of non-blacks are about issues.
Let's take just one major factor - policing is slashed in black communities. As a result, the communities become closer to 'lawless zones'.
Any community that happens in sees a rise in crime.
But there's zero awareness of that as a factor, of 'conservative policies'. Just finger wagging blame the victim crap.
It's a complicated issue with things needed by all parties - but the very last in line to do theit part of what's needed are the 'white conservatives'. They're ignorant of the issues.
Ignorant of what their party's policies have done to contribute and other things.
Man I am so disappointed. Because clearly they are not knocking off the right ones.
This is a problem that cannot be effectively addressed. Poverty breeds poverty and crime. NY has pointedly made it clear that reform isn't happening. Too racially charged.
Then the only solution is to slowly cut off the free government money until they either learn how life actually works or they die off. Either way everyone else wins big. Politicians may not want to do this but the way they are destroying our economy it will happen on it's own.
I am getting ready to leave for my daughters game so I will elaborate later but imo it is your party that has done much more harm to the black community than the "conservatives". I will grant you that they couldn't give a fuck about them but your side has caused generational harm which imo is much worse than simply not giving a fuck.
"i have 12 kids, someone has to take care of them"
Dear poor people,
STOP HAVING KIDS YOU CAN'T AFFORD!!!!
Signed,
Everyone
Then the only solution is to slowly cut off the free government money until they either learn how life actually works or they die off. Either way everyone else wins big. Politicians may not want to do this but the way they are destroying our economy it will happen on it's own.
You are a victim of a false ideology on this.
It's a story that makes sense to you, and is wrong.
It's quite hard to get through to people with that.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
There are some downsides to 'entitlement' issues; they're a small bit comprared to help.
Stop having policies that shift so much to the top making so many more people poor.
to keep the free bennies flowing
Right, and the only reason Republican voter vote for them is they love war.
There's only so far you can educate the ignorate on these issues.
You have a bigotry and ideology about it, I suspect, and there's no helping you learn something more accurate. It's sad, it's harmful, but what can be done?
I could list ten reasons having nothing to do with entitlements, your mind is made up.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
Let's take just one major factor - policing is slashed in black communities. As a result, the communities become closer to 'lawless zones'.
You are a victim of a false ideology on this.
It's a story that makes sense to you, and is wrong.
It's quite hard to get through to people with that.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
There are some downsides to 'entitlement' issues; they're a small bit comprared to help.
You are a victim of a false ideology on this.
It's a story that makes sense to you, and is wrong.
It's quite hard to get through to people with that.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
There are some downsides to 'entitlement' issues; they're a small bit comprared to help.
In 1901, Republican President Theodore Roosevelt invites Booker T. Washington to the White House. Democrats and the media are outraged.
In the 1920s, Republicans propose anti-lynching legislation. The legislation passes the house but is killed by the Democrat-controlled Senate.
In 1947, Republican businessman Branch Rickey, owner of the Brooklyn Dodgers, hires Jackie Robinson (also a Republican), thus integrating Major League Baseball.
In 1954, Republican Chief Justice Earl Warren (appointed by Republican Dwight Eisenhower) authors the desegregation decision of Brown v. Board of Education.
In 1956, Democrats express their opposition to Brown v. Board of Education in the "Southern Manifesto." One hundred and one members of Congressall but four of them Democratssign the manifesto.
In 1957, Republican President Eisenhower authors a Civil Rights Bill, hoping to repair the damage done to blacks and their civil rights by Democrats since 1892. Passage of the bill is blocked by Senate Democrats. When the bill finally goes through, it is significantly weakened due to lack of support from Democrats.
In 1960, Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authors a Voting Rights Bill, again, in an effort to undo the disenfranchisement of blacks by Democrats through poll taxes, literacy tests, and threats of violence by the KKK. And once again, Senate Democrats attempt (though in the end unsuccessfully) to block passage of the bill.
In 1964, Congress passes, and President Lyndon Johnson signs into law, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. This is essentially the law originally authored by Eisenhower in 1957. Democrats, including still-serving Senator Robert Byrd (a former KKK member), employ a filibuster of the bill. Once the filibuster is overcome, a larger percentage of Republicans vote for passage than do Democrats.
In 1965, Congress passes, and President Lyndon Johnson signs into law, the Voting Rights Act of 1964. This is the law originally authored by Eisenhower in 1959. A filibuster is prevented, and passage of this bill also enjoys support from a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats.
You are a victim of a false ideology on this.
It's a story that makes sense to you, and is wrong.
It's quite hard to get through to people with that.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
There are some downsides to 'entitlement' issues; they're a small bit comprared to help.
In 1901, Republican President Theodore Roosevelt invites Booker T. Washington to the White House. Democrats and the media are outraged.
In the 1920s, Republicans propose anti-lynching legislation. The legislation passes the house but is killed by the Democrat-controlled Senate.
In 1947, Republican businessman Branch Rickey, owner of the Brooklyn Dodgers, hires Jackie Robinson (also a Republican), thus integrating Major League Baseball.
In 1954, Republican Chief Justice Earl Warren (appointed by Republican Dwight Eisenhower) authors the desegregation decision of Brown v. Board of Education.
In 1956, Democrats express their opposition to Brown v. Board of Education in the "Southern Manifesto." One hundred and one members of Congress—all but four of them Democrats—sign the manifesto.
In 1957, Republican President Eisenhower authors a Civil Rights Bill, hoping to repair the damage done to blacks and their civil rights by Democrats since 1892. Passage of the bill is blocked by Senate Democrats. When the bill finally goes through, it is significantly weakened due to lack of support from Democrats.
In 1960, Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authors a Voting Rights Bill, again, in an effort to undo the disenfranchisement of blacks by Democrats through poll taxes, literacy tests, and threats of violence by the KKK. And once again, Senate Democrats attempt (though in the end unsuccessfully) to block passage of the bill.
In 1964, Congress passes, and President Lyndon Johnson signs into law, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. This is essentially the law originally authored by Eisenhower in 1957. Democrats, including still-serving Senator Robert Byrd (a former KKK member), employ a filibuster of the bill. Once the filibuster is overcome, a larger percentage of Republicans vote for passage than do Democrats.
In 1965, Congress passes, and President Lyndon Johnson signs into law, the Voting Rights Act of 1964. This is the law originally authored by Eisenhower in 1959. A filibuster is prevented, and passage of this bill also enjoys support from a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats.
Throughout the nations history Republicans have supported and helped blacks to a far greater extent than Democrats have.
This is a complex question but I think most of the major issues have been addressed in this thread (breakdown of the family system, over-reliance on public benefits, war on drugs, cultural rejection of education in favor of being a badass, etc.). Actually I think the majority of this would take care of itself if more black men took responsibility as fathers rather than fathering, and abandoning, kids with multiple partners.
Unfortunately I think the upshot is that this a problem that can only be solved by true black leadership that is willing to speak to these issues with frankness and resolve, and most of the self-appointed black leaders during my lifetime seem more interested in lining their own pockets and optimizing their own public profiles than in real improvement.
I'm not for eliminating welfare but I believe in strings. Education should be tied to benefits for example. The things I'm thinking of will cost more in the short run, but if we were to free a substantial number from entrapment then I'd be glad for it.
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You are a victim of a false ideology on this.
It's a story that makes sense to you, and is wrong.
It's quite hard to get through to people with that.
The Democrats have HELPED the black community enormously - there's a reason 90% vote for Democrats every election.
There are some downsides to 'entitlement' issues; they're a small bit comprared to help.