Did you get your PIs permission for posting those? You should take them down if you didnt, could get into huge trouble with IRB
Surprisingly it wasn't the pictures but the posts in this thread that are making my brain hurt.
I doubt it. All IRBs really ever care about is record keeping, patient privacy (not so much a problem here) and proprietary info (also not happening here).
Ouch that looks painful, but if he's well drugged up... then it's fairly humane as long as it's closed up properly and all. I've see much worse things done to those poor mice. They're so cute, I want one, but think my cat would eat it!
a black brain surgeon...
a black brain surgeon...
This has got to be one of the most acute observations I have witnessed in a long time.
Shiet, my professor mentioned a few horrible stories too when I busted out my camera. He warned me not to post these on facebook, but I figured it's as good as anonymous on these forums. But on another note, maybe some crazy ass 4chan investigators would track down my lab partner. Anyways, I just removed his pic.good call. but great pics OP! sweet little procedure.
While Alkymest may be a tool bag, his comments do suggest one important issue about posting pics of individuals when dealing with animal surgeries:
Having worked in a transgenic facility, and with mice and other critters in other institutions that require Barrier access and IACUC (or whoever they are), you learn that there are tons of loony toons out there. "National Animal Liberation Day" an annual (semi-annual?) event means hightened security at most vivariums, and exposes a lot of uber-sensationilst PETA nuts, that would absolutely prefer to bomb your ass to hell before allowing you to perform one more brain surgery on a mouse, regardless of its use.
These people are freaks, and they do exist. Our policy in transgenics was that no names or photos of the technicians would be published on the website or in blanket communications. Seems a bit much, at first, but when I first moved out to the Bay Area more than a year ago, there were bombings at UC Santa Cruz where these fucks blew up faculty cars, and tried to murder one investigator--and HIS ENTIRE FAMILY--by firebombing his house at 5am. Luckily, he and his family escaped, but the point is that these fucks exist.
Anyway, that is indeed a sweet little surgery there. Serious skills.
The 3rd pic is as close to post-op as I have. The next step is to snip off the cannula so it's barely protruding out of the head, and to further cement a plastic ring around the cannula.I'd like to see one as well.
haha nah, we just get another mousey to work on.Do you fail if you accidentally kill mousey?
Neuroscience undergrad actually. This is the lab class that we have.Nice photos!
Are you in med school or something? Or is this your profession?
Did you get your PIs permission for posting those? You should take them down if you didnt, could get into huge trouble with IRB
Suuure do..Got any hi-resolution confocal scans of brain slices?
They don't know what's happening to them, sure. They also aren't sentient beings. They're just... animals. Mindless rodents. The thing was drugged to hell, he had no idea that anything was happening to begin with.
If you don't like it, why are you still in here bitching about it?
Are you joking me? Look up the word sentient..
I did.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sentient
They don't have a consciousness. They're nothing more than primal, instinct-driven feeding/breeding/surviving machines.
I did.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sentient
They don't have a consciousness. They're nothing more than primal, instinct-driven feeding/breeding/surviving machines.
What would you class dogs, cats and other domestic animals as?