Peter Arnett now reporting for Arab channel Al-Arabiya

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Ornery

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apoppin

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ornery
"Who says "supposed to"?

That would be NBC, who said, "the company was angered because Arnett gave the interview without permission and presented opinion as fact."
NBC fired him - because of war-hysterical public opinion.

You anti-war people still trample on freedom of speech while shooting off your own mouths.
You asked a fvcking question, and I answered it WITH FACTS! Get a GD clue, will ya?
"facts?"

The "reason" NBC gave and the REAL reason are different. You are a prime example of war hysteria.

 

Ferocious

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NBC (as do most American corporations) does NOT need any reason to fire someone.

He did something unpopular with the American public and without authorization.....so there was TWO reasons for NBC to fire him.
 

GagHalfrunt

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So Arnett has gone from a Pulitzer Prize when working for The Associated Press to working for CNN to MSNBC to The Daily Mirror to Al-Arabiya. BWAHAHAHA!!!! If this Saddam-groupie makes any more sudden career moves he's going to wind up writing an advice for the lovelorn column in Grit.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
So Arnett has gone from a Pulitzer Prize when working for The Associated Press to working for CNN to MSNBC to The Daily Mirror to Al-Arabiya. BWAHAHAHA!!!! If this Saddam-groupie makes any more sudden career moves he's going to wind up writing an advice for the lovelorn column in Grit.
Not quite:

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Since being fired by NBC, Arnett has been hired by a private Belgian TV network, a state-run Greek television channel and The Daily Mirror of London . . .
He now has multiple employers.

After the war, his book will make him the big bucks, spend a few weeks at the top of the bestseller lists, he will be invited to give interviews on all the major talk shows all over the world and maybe bag another Pulitzer.




Not bad for a "Saddam groupie".




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SlowSS

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
So Arnett has gone from a Pulitzer Prize when working for The Associated Press to working for CNN to MSNBC to The Daily Mirror to Al-Arabiya. BWAHAHAHA!!!! If this Saddam-groupie makes any more sudden career moves he's going to wind up writing an advice for the lovelorn column in Grit.
Not quite:

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Since being fired by NBC, Arnett has been hired by a private Belgian TV network, a state-run Greek television channel and The Daily Mirror of London . . .
He now has multiple employers.

After the war, his book will make him the big bucks, spend a few weeks at the top of the bestseller lists, he will be invited to give interviews on all the major talk shows all over the world and maybe bag another Pulitzer.

Not bad for a "Saddam groupie".



Hopefully he'll make all that money in the prison with cell mate named Bubba.


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apoppin

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
So Arnett has gone from a Pulitzer Prize when working for The Associated Press to working for CNN to MSNBC to The Daily Mirror to Al-Arabiya. BWAHAHAHA!!!! If this Saddam-groupie makes any more sudden career moves he's going to wind up writing an advice for the lovelorn column in Grit.
Not quite:

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Since being fired by NBC, Arnett has been hired by a private Belgian TV network, a state-run Greek television channel and The Daily Mirror of London . . .
He now has multiple employers.

After the war, his book will make him the big bucks, spend a few weeks at the top of the bestseller lists, he will be invited to give interviews on all the major talk shows all over the world and maybe bag another Pulitzer.

Not bad for a "Saddam groupie".



Hopefully he'll make all that money in the prison with cell mate named Bubba.


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As I said before, "no sane official will prosecute him after the war".

He is likely to be viewed as a "hero" by the rest of the world for abiding by his "conscience" to speak out what he felt was "truth". The US will fall "in-line" with that view AFTER the war and the HYSTERIA subsides . . .

. . . even you.

There is a PRECEDENT (long before most you you were born) - it's called the "war in Viet Nam". Same thing happened there and will happen again after this war is over.



I'd love to stay and discuss further but I gotta go . . . I'll check back tomorrow (I hope) . . . I also imagine this forum will SLOW to a CRAWL in preparation for the forum UPGRADE tomorrow morning.



 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: apoppin


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Since being fired by NBC, Arnett has been hired by a private Belgian TV network, a state-run Greek television channel and The Daily Mirror of London . . .
He now has multiple employers.

After the war, his book will make him the big bucks, spend a few weeks at the top of the bestseller lists, he will be invited to give interviews on all the major talk shows all over the world and maybe bag another Pulitzer.
[/quote]

ROFLMAO!!!! Yeah, and if Ken Lay goes from CEO of Enron to flipping burgers at McDonalds, telemarketing and sweeping the floor at a local brothel he's got multiple employers too. Face facts, all those new jobs at 4th-rate rags put together don't add up to 1/10th of the prestige, impact and readership he has before he started whispering sweet nothings in Saddams ear. He's gone from being a credible journalist to being a left-wing hack spewing lies to the few outlets on earth willing to pay him. He can get another dozen positions for places like the Daily Mirror and Al-Arabiya and he still won't be viewed as highly as a stringer for Reuters.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
]As I said before, "no sane official will prosecute him after the war".

He is likely to be viewed as a "hero" by the rest of the world for abiding by his "conscience" to speak out what he felt was "truth". The US will fall "in-line" with that view AFTER the war and the HYSTERIA subsides . . .

. . . even you.

There is a PRECEDENT (long before most you you were born) - it's called the "war in Viet Nam". Same thing happened there and will happen again after this war is over.

I'd love to stay and discuss further but I gotta go . . . I'll check back tomorrow (I hope) . . . I also imagine this forum will SLOW to a CRAWL in preparation for the forum UPGRADE tomorrow morning.

Truth??? You and Arnett wouldn't know the "Truth" if it bit on both of your cluess asses.

He became a news something journalists shouldn't be.

He also, told false assessment of war being a failure and that US citizens are revolting against Bush.

His remark essentially instilled confidence of Iraqi military to contiue to fight and end result could be death of more american soldiers.

BTW, you don't have any clue as to when I was born and what war (s) I've participated in, so stop being an idiot and assuming things.



 

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SlowSS don't get too fired up apoopin like to talk the $h!t and never back it up with anything than his useless rambling... he's about as anti american as arnette...
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: apoppin
]As I said before, "no sane official will prosecute him after the war".

He is likely to be viewed as a "hero" by the rest of the world for abiding by his "conscience" to speak out what he felt was "truth". The US will fall "in-line" with that view AFTER the war and the HYSTERIA subsides . . .

. . . even you.

There is a PRECEDENT (long before most you you were born) - it's called the "war in Viet Nam". Same thing happened there and will happen again after this war is over.

I'd love to stay and discuss further but I gotta go . . . I'll check back tomorrow (I hope) . . . I also imagine this forum will SLOW to a CRAWL in preparation for the forum UPGRADE tomorrow morning.

Truth??? You and Arnett wouldn't know the "Truth" if it bit on both of your cluess asses.

He became a news something journalists shouldn't be.

He also, told false assessment of war being a failure and that US citizens are revolting against Bush.

His remark essentially instilled confidence of Iraqi military to contiue to fight and end result could be death of more american soldiers.

BTW, you don't have any clue as to when I was born and what war (s) I've participated in, so stop being an idiot and assuming things.
You clearly are a pro-war bigot. Your opinion is the minority's (in the WORLD opinion). And I have to drop out of the forums completely ANYWAY, so I won't bother further with your idiotic assesments.

 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: apoppin
]As I said before, "no sane official will prosecute him after the war".

He is likely to be viewed as a "hero" by the rest of the world for abiding by his "conscience" to speak out what he felt was "truth". The US will fall "in-line" with that view AFTER the war and the HYSTERIA subsides . . .

. . . even you.

There is a PRECEDENT (long before most you you were born) - it's called the "war in Viet Nam". Same thing happened there and will happen again after this war is over.

I'd love to stay and discuss further but I gotta go . . . I'll check back tomorrow (I hope) . . . I also imagine this forum will SLOW to a CRAWL in preparation for the forum UPGRADE tomorrow morning.

Truth??? You and Arnett wouldn't know the "Truth" if it bit on both of your cluess asses.

He became a news something journalists shouldn't be.

He also, told false assessment of war being a failure and that US citizens are revolting against Bush.

His remark essentially instilled confidence of Iraqi military to contiue to fight and end result could be death of more american soldiers.

BTW, you don't have any clue as to when I was born and what war (s) I've participated in, so stop being an idiot and assuming things.
You clearly are a pro-war bigot. Your opinion is the minority's (in the WORLD opinion). And I have to drop out of the forums completely ANYWAY, so I won't bother further with your idiotic assesments.

See, that is the problem with you anti-war BIGOTS, you can't handle the truth. You are the one spewing clueless drivel as usual. Go ahead and quit, nobody cares.
 

mechBgon

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Why do you have to drop out of the Forums completely?

As for the topic at hand, if Arnett wants to see things in a way that doesn't go over well in America, I think he has the right to do that. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are two pillars that America stands upon. Yeah, he might lose his job over it, but saying "America's war plan has failed" is an entirely different thing from saying "At 0230 on Saturday, American forces will attempt to capture target so-and-so, so be ready for them." The latter could be treason, but the former is just unpopular (in America).

I think the war is ugly, and maybe it paints America as a self-ordained judge/jury/executioner, but at the same time, I think Saddam's regime needs to go. Torturing and killing their own citizens, POW's and even Olympic atheletes that don't do well... *sigh* Got to break eggs to make an omelete sometimes...

edit: by saying the war is "ugly," I don't mean that I don't approve of our soldiers' conduct there. As far as I've seen, they've conducted themselves in an honorable way. Granted, my sources are the "pro-coallition" sources, but whatever.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: apoppin
]As I said before, "no sane official will prosecute him after the war".

He is likely to be viewed as a "hero" by the rest of the world for abiding by his "conscience" to speak out what he felt was "truth". The US will fall "in-line" with that view AFTER the war and the HYSTERIA subsides . . .

. . . even you.

There is a PRECEDENT (long before most you you were born) - it's called the "war in Viet Nam". Same thing happened there and will happen again after this war is over.

I'd love to stay and discuss further but I gotta go . . . I'll check back tomorrow (I hope) . . . I also imagine this forum will SLOW to a CRAWL in preparation for the forum UPGRADE tomorrow morning.

Truth??? You and Arnett wouldn't know the "Truth" if it bit on both of your cluess asses.

He became a news something journalists shouldn't be.

He also, told false assessment of war being a failure and that US citizens are revolting against Bush.

His remark essentially instilled confidence of Iraqi military to contiue to fight and end result could be death of more american soldiers.

BTW, you don't have any clue as to when I was born and what war (s) I've participated in, so stop being an idiot and assuming things.
You clearly are a pro-war bigot. Your opinion is the minority's (in the WORLD opinion). And I have to drop out of the forums completely ANYWAY, so I won't bother further with your idiotic assesments.

See, that is the problem with you anti-war BIGOTS, you can't handle the truth. You are the one spewing clueless drivel as usual. Go ahead and quit, nobody cares.
And you are as BAD as SADDAM as you trample all over our constitution and freedom of speech in the "name of patriotism". :disgust:

My "drop out" was explained in in earlier post as "temporary" . . . I am just back early.


 

apoppin

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Andy Roony's Take:
I've lived a long while now and I don't remember any more unpleasant times than these. I'm not even interested in reading the sports pages. I hate everything about this war except that we're winning it.

You can't even be critical, either, without sounding unpatriotic. It's why Peter Arnett got fired by NBC for speaking on Iraqi television.

I'm patriotic but I wish our government would stop treating this war as if they had to sell it to us with slick advertising slogans.


The White House Web site puts out a bulletin about the war with this headline: OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.

Come on, all we want is the news, not a sales pitch.

They called our bombing campaign against Baghdad "Shock and Awe."

After the UN refused to approve the war, our government put together a list of countries it said supported us. They called it a "coalition of the willing."

The generals don't talk about American soldiers. It's always "coalition forces."

It's as if there were no Americans there.

Reporters have been sucked into it, too.

The word makes it sound as though we're just a few countries short of having the whole world on our side, and that isn't true. Most of the world is against us. The Administration says 49 countries are part of the coalition. I see that Eritrea, Uganda and Iceland are on our side.

The fact is, though, we're in this thing with the British, who have 45,000 soldiers there, and the Australians, who have 2,000. That's it. The other 46 wish us well or let us fly bombers over their country. Big deal.

We've practically bribed some of them. We offered Turkey $15 billion to let our troops go through there but they refused. President Bush won't be sending the president of Turkey anything for his birthday this year.

There aren't any good wars, but this one is especially bad. We want to win it quickly without more death but we're grown-up people, too. The President, Rumsfeld and the generals ought to stop treating us like children. Tell us the truth. We can take it even when it's bad.

And the only real good news will be when this terrible time in American history is over.
 
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