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yh125d

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Dec 23, 2006
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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: yh125d
wow, you guys are being assholes imho
You've only been here 4 months. You don't know the half of it. Threads with 1000s of posts of flaming, FUD and insanity....

If you were here then, you would say, "THIS IS MADNESS!"

I haven't been here long, but I've been on other forums for years. Banning someone because they are disliked, fanboys, or, ohn0ez! lie! is just dumb. trust me, rollo isn't the only liar/extremely hated person on this forum or any other
 

Howard

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Oct 14, 1999
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Far more interesting? Flaming gets tiring after a while. Forums should be a place for intelligent discussion. I do not want to see him here again (and there are certain others who I think should be gone as well.)
 

Woofmeister

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Jul 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: yh125d
wow, you guys are being assholes imho
You've only been here 4 months. You don't know the half of it. Threads with 1000s of posts of flaming, FUD and insanity....

If you were here then, you would say, "THIS IS MADNESS!"

I haven't been here long, but I've been on other forums for years. Banning someone because they are disliked, fanboys, or, ohn0ez! lie! is just dumb. trust me, rollo isn't the only liar/extremely hated person on this forum or any other

I'm for returning Rolo as you can see, but I don't agree at all with your post. There is a world of difference between being disliked, a fanboy, or, a liar on a forum and failing to disclose that you are being compensated for acting as a spokesman for a manufacturer on a forum.

Bring him back, but make him disclose his relationship with NVIDIA.

 

nullpointerus

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Apr 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: Howard
Far more interesting? Flaming gets tiring after a while. Forums should be a place for intelligent discussion. I do not want to see him here again (and there are certain others who I think should be gone as well.)
Maybe there could be a de-Rollification button that would hide Rollo's posts and the posts of people who hit his posts' reply buttons.

 

ShadowOfMyself

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Jun 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: Howard
Far more interesting? Flaming gets tiring after a while. Forums should be a place for intelligent discussion. I do not want to see him here again (and there are certain others who I think should be gone as well.)
Maybe there could be a de-Rollification button that would hide Rollo's posts and the posts of people who hit his posts' reply buttons.


:laugh:

I still remember when he was here (and I was a lurker), I tended to just skip posts as soon as I saw the old man avatar Now I cant do that or poor Josh would get ignored LOL
 

Captante

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Oct 20, 2003
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I'm against him returning because one thing theres no shortage of on AT is biased information ... the video forum should (IMO) be a source of useful debate not advertising & regardless of wether forced to place a warning label on his posts, advertising is all Rollo provided.

If irrational debate is your idea of fun P&N is where you belong, not here!
 

the Chase

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Sep 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Rollo was very entertaining. So he worked secretly for AEG big deal. He who is without sin let him through the first stone.

You guys need to get over yourselves. I realize most are young people here but thats shouldn't be an excuse not to be understanding.

Sure he got people banned even some who didn't accuse him of being AEG . Many seen past his fud. So they debated him on the issues. I see many here who sided with him on those issues. Were is your guilt or did you put it all on evil AEG ROLLO

While were at it why don't we openly plot to overthrow our government and post child porn in the video forum. Hey what the heck. We will be forgiven.....
 

CaiNaM

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Oct 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Isn't Gstanfor enough? We don't need two ultra nVidiots!

big difference.

for one, if his opinion differed, he would not completely disregard valid rebuttals. for another, at least until the very end, he was cordial in his disagreements (and generally had valid points, even if they were exaggerated). his writing had style and his points would at least make you think, even if you didn't agree. he also argued based on his own experience owning ati hardware, not just argue based on what he read from the exp. of others. he also provided a helluva alot of valid info.

to summarize, agree with him or not, but his posts were, at the least interesting for the most part. we certainly have not had a 'fanboy' like that since...

at any rate, if anyone is actually interested on his take on this whole matter:

"I consider the ATVF (anandtech video forum) one of the more enjoyable forums online, and I would definitely post here again, but only on the condition that my "Rollo" account be reinstated, and that I can have "NVIDIA FOCUS GROUP" in my signature.

When NVIDIA took over the Focus Group early last year, disclosure of membership, and forum decorum became the rule of the day. (i.e. no flame wars)

I still post on Rage3d (Jethro Bodine), Firing Squad (Jethro Bodine), NVNEWS (Rollo) and moderate on nZone forums (Brian_S), SLiZone forums (Rollo), and at Geforce3d (Rollo). I'd be happy to discuss video cards with anyone at these forums, and hope you are all well and prosperous in 2007.

I'm not a member here under any other name, you can trust me when I say I've found out exactly how annoying that is when I became a moderator.

P.S. I still post "press release" type info from NVIDIA at the aforementioned forums, and forward user concerns to NVIDIA personnel, should anyone be interested."


regardless of his status here, he's more than happy to help in the manner suggested, but you'll just have to do it on the forums he currently frequents.
 

5150Joker

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To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here. Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums. As I said in the initial post and I'll reiterate, I believe he will be a positive contributing poster to these forums because he is affiliated with nVidia and he tends to get new hardware and software (drivers) before many other sources do. Many have noted his negative behavior in the past but they glossed over the contributions he made as well such as doing extensive SLi testing on his own time for the benefit of the community as well as helping people whenever they had issues with their nVidia hardware. What he did was regrettable but it does not warrant a permanent ban, especially now that AEG is gone and as a focus group member, he discloses his affiliation in his signature and is not allowed to act unprofessional. I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.
 

KeithTalent

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I voted yes as I always look back on those days fondly. I would add the stipulation that he must be forced to use the oldmag avatar.

KT
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Isn't Gstanfor enough? We don't need two ultra nVidiots!

if that is the *only* reason ... bring Rollo back !
:roll:







wow ... i didn't think the vote would be close
-for rollo
:Q

i have a *prediction* ... by late afternoon ATF will suddenly "gain" 100+ new and voting members - just because of this thread
:shocked:

letssee


Well, anyone caught conducting viral marketing here should be perma banned.

it just isn't that simple

FIRST of all, AMD is well-represented on our forums as viral marketeers ... their program [and ATi's has been in place since before the AEG fiasco - when nvidia dumped AEG for more strictly-controlled 'in house' Viral marketing ... AMD has copied nvidia and intel and microsoft .... and ... etc.

SECONDLY, as Anand's lawyers probably reminded him, AMD and nvidia [etc.] *DO advertise* here ... they pay big bucks to get their "message" across

so ... i *expect* Viral marketing is - not condoned - but now "accepted"

what *we* can only *ask* for is transparency

--but we sure ain't gonna get it

Bring Rollo back and "see" what happens ...

conditionally

and "on probation"


*FinallY* as to the "allegation" that "Rollo was lying scum"

i very perceptively pointed out that *he* and "he alone" was responsible for changing the balance of this forum from decidedly Pro-nvidia to Pro-ATi
[i just gave a little "push" at the right place and time]

Rollo was SO over-the-top - as our dear friend Gstanfor is for nvidia - he *drove* people to ATi
:Q

i think AMD should pay him to shill for nvidia

:roll:

let him back



AND there is NO "Apoppin"
--you got my ok to ban him
 

avi85

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Apr 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here. Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums. As I said in the initial post and I'll reiterate, I believe he will be a positive contributing poster to these forums because he is affiliated with nVidia and he tends to get new hardware and software (drivers) before many other sources do. Many have noted his negative behavior in the past but they glossed over the contributions he made as well such as doing extensive SLi testing on his own time for the benefit of the community as well as helping people whenever they had issues with their nVidia hardware. What he did was regrettable but it does not warrant a permanent ban, especially now that AEG is gone and as a focus group member, he discloses his affiliation in his signature and is not allowed to act unprofessional. I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.
OK, what the hell...
 

cubeless

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Sep 17, 2001
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...anyone who didn't catch that rollo is a shill needs to spend a bit less quiet time alone...

why should we let rollo back? to quote jessica rabbit "...he made me laugh..."...
 

Zstream

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here. Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums. As I said in the initial post and I'll reiterate, I believe he will be a positive contributing poster to these forums because he is affiliated with nVidia and he tends to get new hardware and software (drivers) before many other sources do. Many have noted his negative behavior in the past but they glossed over the contributions he made as well such as doing extensive SLi testing on his own time for the benefit of the community as well as helping people whenever they had issues with their nVidia hardware. What he did was regrettable but it does not warrant a permanent ban, especially now that AEG is gone and as a focus group member, he discloses his affiliation in his signature and is not allowed to act unprofessional. I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.

Please return the account to the original owner plx.
 

Dean

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Oct 10, 1999
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I voted no. He caused others to get banned to serve his own greedy agenda's. Belittled others for being "too poor" to afford the latest and greatest, while he was getting freebies. He was/is a complete tool.
 

wanderer27

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Aug 6, 2005
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We've had worse on here than Rollo.

He generally had some pretty good info, which is why we come here in the first place.

Maybe he was a bit biased (still a lot of that on here too), he at least tried out both vendors products and would generally report fairly on his experiences with them.

I wasn't around for the earlier days, but I got the impression he gave ATI a fair shake from what I've seen.

 

Keysplayr

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Bring him on back, if he wants to come back. I just see a lot of initial attacking towards him from certain members here. They'll bait him into arguments (if he can be baited) trying to ban him again. I remember there were some REALLY crude posts from a few during that whole thing. Anyway, I would not mind having him back. He is a friend and a great source of good info.
 

CaiNaM

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Oct 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Zstream
Please return the account to the original owner plx.

to quote rollo, "I'm not a member here under any other name, you can trust me when I say I've found out exactly how annoying that is when I became a moderator."

he did post here under another name briefly (like a week or two) a year ago, after his ban, under "fallenangel". even his alter ego's name carried a bit of humor, heh.
 

Pabster

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Apr 15, 2001
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Bring him back. He's hardly the first to hide affiliation with someone and he certainly won't be the last.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Dean
I voted no. He caused others to get banned to serve his own greedy agenda's. Belittled others for being "too poor" to afford the latest and greatest, while he was getting freebies. He was/is a complete tool.

i completely respect your decision

but you gotta know *why* i voted yes ...

he WAS all that ... he said those "awful" things directly to me
:Q

--and i *shot* right back [about his not being a 'real gamer' - finishing NO games, just buying the latest games and only running benchs and walking about in the game looking for flaws in ATi IQ - even to gaming at only 75hz on a CRT]

he was a blast to debate ... if you didn't let him get to you
 
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