Petition to bring Rollo back! Vote yes.

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
No, he caused too much trouble

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: Dean
I voted no. He caused others to get banned to serve his own greedy agenda's. Belittled others for being "too poor" to afford the latest and greatest, while he was getting freebies. He was/is a complete tool.

 

[m21s]

You people need to stop holding a grudge and get over the past.
I remember Rollo being the only one to post his own benchmarks and experience with Nvidia products that no one else took the time to do!
Believe it or not this helps out a lot of people.

So what if he lied in the past...Do me a favor, count how many times you lied to someone big or small in the past week....Exactly. Did that person ban you for life?
I don't think so.

Stop being cry babies and man up!

I can't believe this one person bothers you so much!

I'd hate to see how some of you act when your not behind a computer screen.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here. Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums. As I said in the initial post and I'll reiterate, I believe he will be a positive contributing poster to these forums because he is affiliated with nVidia and he tends to get new hardware and software (drivers) before many other sources do. Many have noted his negative behavior in the past but they glossed over the contributions he made as well such as doing extensive SLi testing on his own time for the benefit of the community as well as helping people whenever they had issues with their nVidia hardware. What he did was regrettable but it does not warrant a permanent ban, especially now that AEG is gone and as a focus group member, he discloses his affiliation in his signature and is not allowed to act unprofessional. I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.

He blew it, No!

 

[sisq0kidd]

No, Rollo should not be allowed back simply because things aren't interesting. In my opinion, he shouldn't have been banned in the first place.

He was an AEG affiliate and should have been suspended for his concealment of that, not permanently banned. Those who were temporarily banned, were banned for calling out another member in public (which is never allowed, regardless) and for personal attacks. They should have addressed the mods and not create a public circus for Rollo's exile.

You all helped create this Rollo persona, so blame yourselves for that.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
No, Rollo should not be allowed back simply because things aren't interesting. In my opinion, he shouldn't have been banned in the first place.

He was an AEG affiliate and should have been suspended for his concealment of that, not permanently banned. Those who were temporarily banned, were banned for calling out another member in public (which is never allowed, regardless) and for personal attacks. They should have addressed the mods and not create a public circus for Rollo's exile.

You all helped create this Rollo persona, so blame yourselves for that.

QFT

 

[ronnn]

What I don't get is that the focus group members at b3d stated that the focus groups were disbanded. So why place that in the sig?

 

[nitromullet]

I think they should let him back. Anandtech video is probably one of the most active video forums anywhere, and anyone who thinks it's because of the loads of factual, unbiased data posted here is fooling themselves... Hell, half the posts on here contain a link to the inq or fudzilla... You guys love that crap, and it makes for good entertainment.

AT fourms to me are for getting updates (or rumnors) on up coming products, a place to discuss/debate video cards, and occasionally offer some advice. AT video forum isn't a great place for teching issues (unless you consider the advice to replace your card X with a card Y good advice). If I have a serious question about an NV card, I'll post it on the nvidia forums and usually get better results (along with a PM from Brian_S).

Honestly, Rollo fits in here... He's a pretty good mix of fact, opinion, and attitude; which is pretty much what keeps AT video alive and interesting.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Ok as one of the original people that spearheaded the drive to get Rollo banned for not disclosing he was part of the nVidia viral marketing program, I think his punishment has been enough and he should be allowed to return. These boards were far more interesting with him around and he had never outright attacked anyone even if he didn't disclose his relationship with nVidia. Furthermore, now that he discloses in his sig. that he's an nVidia focus group member, he can bring valuable support and knowledge to us about nVidia products. There are many here that have been complaining about nVidia drivers but nobody has been around to listen, with Rollo around we'll know he has nVidia's ear and he can report problems we post directly to them. So I'm asking everyone to take what I've said into consideration and support his return to these forums.

Edit:

To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here. Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums. As I said in the initial post and I'll reiterate, I believe he will be a positive contributing poster to these forums because he is affiliated with nVidia and he tends to get new hardware and software (drivers) before many other sources do. Many have noted his negative behavior in the past but they glossed over the contributions he made as well such as doing extensive SLi testing on his own time for the benefit of the community as well as helping people whenever they had issues with their nVidia hardware. What he did was regrettable but it does not warrant a permanent ban, especially now that AEG is gone and as a focus group member, he discloses his affiliation in his signature and is not allowed to act unprofessional. I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.

oh yeah being banned from the video forum is a punishment. i wish i was banned right now. ;p i've got a paper due tomorrow and am positng this crap. if any mod reads this please ban me for a few weeks.

 

[SolMiester]

I didnt vote, but would say yes if you didnt have the stupid sig rule.....Just because he was/is part of Nvidia doesnt mean his information is wrong or right. Do you have you prefered president/government in you sig when/if you post in P&M?

If I was Rollo, I would tell you all to go take a flying leap.

 

[Skunkwourk]

why would you want someone back that didn't come clean the first time he was called out?

EDIT: it doesn't matter to me if he can post or not since its easy for one to just disregard the information he provides. Im just curious as to whether or not most of you want him back for entertainment purposes, or for his video commentary.

 

[CrystalBay]

Can we personally attack him when he's bombed on Bourbon ? (admitted by himself) let him back in ...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Eghck
why would you want someone back that didn't come clean the first time he was called out?

EDIT: it doesn't matter to me if he can post or not since its easy for one to just disregard the information he provides. Im just curious as to whether or not most of you want him back for entertainment purposes, or for his video commentary.

because *most* here don't come clean when they are backed into a corner

... it's the Bill Clinton 'thing'

*both*
the 'reviews' were OK

 

[Cookie Monster]

Id say let him in.

 

[CrystalBay]

My question is what passes for reinstatement 2/3 vote like the Senate?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
My question is what passes for reinstatement 2/3 vote like the Senate?

actually it doesn't depend on us at all

what usually happens is that a thread is posted - usually in FI - so the mods see what the forum think
[no doubt they disregard the extreme posters, either way]

no doubt Joker will forward the thread to the mods attention so they can see the results of the poll and to especially review the thread.

Rollo also needs to be in contact with the mods ... he has to *ASK* to be let back and promise to "be good"

they then discuss it, maybe vote and send their recommendations on to the Administrator who reviews the "perma ban" recommendations and makes his decision

sometime they wait longer ... sometimes they react quickly

we never know what happens till the member is reinstated

frankly i am *amazed* - over half want him back [or think it is OK for him to return]

44% against ... 4% undecided

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
To everyone voting no or even considering voting no: Rollo will NOT misbehave himself in the least when he comes here.

There is absolutely NO WAY you can give us this assurance. He was given plenty of chances to reform himself before the ban and each and every time he eventually reverted back to his former arrogant, sarcastic self.

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Since he is directly affiliated with nVidia's focus group program now, they are required to act in a professional manner. So that means his presence will be for the most part beneficial to the video forums.

Think again. Over at forums.nvidia.com, Rollo is known as Brian_S. And he's still just as much of an Nvidia fanatic as ever, handing out bans to people for having the audacity to post anything negative regarding Nvidia.

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t24680.html
Did you happen to read what he PM'ed?

Nvidia doesn't like it when people post unfounded speculation about their products

In other posts Brian_S has made allusions to the fact that some of those posting may be people who work for ATI, and that they may have an "agenda of reducing the sales of Nvidia products." (that is a direct quote)

THAT'S ALL HE DID WHILE HE WAS HERE, EXCEPT IT WAS AGAINST ATI!!

So it's okay for him to do it against ATI here at AT but it's not okay if someone does it against Nvidia there? Talk about being two-faced...

Here's a few more that mention him.

http://digg.com/hardware/No_Vista_drivers_for_NVIDIA_8800_series_cards
http://www.squadgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23449

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I know some of you may be reticent about his return due to some past behavior but surely you can make an exception one time--especially since it's been so long and circumstances are far different now.

Reticent is not the word I would use. More like, violently opposed. You claim that the forums were more "interesting" with him around. Things would be more "interesting" around my house if I let loose a live rattlesnake, too.

Rollo was banned for very good reasons. He was given multiple PM warnings by the Mods to quit trolling and flaming other members. When those failed to get through to him he was given two separate vacations for trolling/flaming. Finally, in the end he was banned. It's not as if he were simply kicked out one day with no warning. He was given PLENTY of chances to reform himself but he thought it would be more fun to continue harassing other members.

In his final days here, he lied about his AEG affiliation and, according to his own posts, got four people banned for accusing him of it when he knew they were 100% correct. He both threatened to sue Anandtech AND create multiple accounts if he were banned. While I don't think he did the former, he DID do the latter and created the account "Falllenangell" so he could continue posting AFTER his Rollo account was banned. Creating a second account after being banned is, as far as I know, a PERMANENT BAN with no return possible.

If you can't tell by now, I do NOT want to see a return of Rollo. While the forums may have been more "interesting" to some, it was DEFINITELY less helpful. All we had with Rollo was an unending stream of flamewars, FUD and insults. If some people want something more "interesting", go visit a Geraldo forum. I'm here for facts and figures regarding Video related items, not to watch someone try to increase his monthly commission by singing praise about all things Nvidia related while simultaneously posting any and every little thing ATI does wrong.

Oh, and I'm not sure Rollo really WANTS to return as he feels all of us here are lunatics.

http://www.geforce3d.net/forums/index.php?topic=238.0

First of all, NEVER link me to teh hated AT video forum, where the inmates run the asylum

Yeah, that REALLY makes me want to let him return.



NOT!

 

[apoppin]

i feel bad for you Creig if Rollo returns

you were always his favourite victim ... and target

not everyone fared so badly ... he 'attacked' me at least as often
[if you can call it an 'attack' ... i used the word *attempt*]

and are you posting his private messages for all to see?
:Q

UNethical

and there are *no PERMANENT bans* ... nothing is cast in steel

'permanent' in this sense is relative to a temporary ban ...

it can and does often last for years

the Forum has ALREADY laid out criteria for a member that is "permanently banned" to return

 

[T9D]

Please dont bring him back. I'm just a lurker. But I can say that he really ruined this board. I stopped reading anything on here at all for a while because of him and a couple others.

 

[nitromullet]

Im just curious as to whether or not most of you want him back for entertainment purposes, or for his video commentary.

A bit of both... that's what I come here for. There are plenty of more technical forums and whitepapers freely available on the net if you want straight info.

 

[MegaWorks]

I voted no, I can?t stand this lying asshole. I knew if from the start that Rollo was working for nVidia. Everytimes he posts a thread it was extremely biased for nVidia or Anti-ATI. I accused him once of being an nVidia troll and everyone was jumping over me ?How can you accuse him of something like that? or ?he?s a good person and a good member of the AT forum community? whatever that sh1t means. One day just to piss him off I told him to go play with Jen-Hsun Huang soldiers, he got so offended and tried to get me banned LOL!! :laugh:

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SolMiester
I didnt vote, but would say yes if you didnt have the stupid sig rule.....Just because he was/is part of Nvidia doesnt mean his information is wrong or right. Do you have you prefered president/government in you sig when/if you post in P&M?

If I was Rollo, I would tell you all to go take a flying leap.

I believe he discloses his nVidia focus group affiliation on his own accord and doesn't want to hide it. So that's why I mentioned it in the initial post and poll.

 

[CrystalBay]

Yeah , Creig he does stir up a lot of emotion without facts. the reason being , he PUI's ( posts under the influence ) If people realize this,,
It's like a duck running water off its back.
Unfortunately some like his combative stance. So I dunno,this forum should be for facts ,speculation or opinion not all out bashing and denigrating..

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: apoppin

i very perceptively pointed out that *he* and "he alone" was responsible for changing the balance of this forum from decidedly Pro-nvidia to Pro-ATi
[i just gave a little "push" at the right place and time]

Rollo was SO over-the-top - as our dear friend Gstanfor is for nvidia - he *drove* people to ATi
:Q

It's because of him that I only buy ATI video cards, and I remember telling him that he pushed me to the red team because nVidia were hiring assholes like him I'm very serious.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
Yeah , Creig he does stir up a lot of emotion without facts. the reason being , he PUI's ( posts under the influence ) If people realize this,,
It's like a duck running water off its back.
Unfortunately some like his combative stance. So I dunno,this forum should be for facts ,speculation or opinion not all out bashing and denigrating..

What good will it do to bring him back that's the big question?