Pew Research: Increasing Number of Americans Outside Labor Force Don't Want a Job

unokitty

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By far the biggest chunk of people not in the labor force are people who simply don’t want to be, according to data from the monthly Current Population Survey (which the BLS uses to, among other things, calculate the unemployment rate.) Last month, according to BLS, 85.9 million adults didn’t want a job ...

The share of 16- to 24-year-olds saying they didn’t want a job rose from an average 29.5% in 2000 to an average 39.4% over the first 10 months of this year. There was a much smaller increase among prime working-age adults (ages 25 to 54) over that period. And among people aged 55 and up, the share saying they didn’t want a job actually fell, to an average 58.2% this year.

People 55 and over do, as you might expect, account for more than half of the 85.9 million adults (as of October) who say they don’t want a job — about the same percentage as in 2000. But the 16-to-24 share has edged higher...

Women are more likely than men to say they don’t want a job...Last month, 28.5% of men said they didn’t want a job... For women, the share saying they didn’t want a job hovered around 38% throughout the 2000s but began creeping up in 2010, reaching 40.2% last month.
Interesting analysis by Pew Research.

How does this correlate with your experiences?

Fewer young people want a job?

Fewer women than men want a job?

Or, something else?

Uno
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

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When employers are out to grind you into dust and you're going to need government assistance to survive even if you have a job, why bother looking?
 

PokerGuy

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When people are raised with an entitlement mentality that they are owed things and don't have to earn them, it's going to be reflected in the percentage of people that actually want a job. Why get a job or earn your keep? More and more just feel like they should just get stuff, just because.
 

Moonbeam

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Get some skills and aim a little higher than Walmart and minimum wage.

Fuck you from all the people who work at Walmart as the best they could find and fuck Walmart for having a business model that takes advantage of the numbers of those without work to profit their bottom line.
 

Moonbeam

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When people are raised with an entitlement mentality that they are owed things and don't have to earn them, it's going to be reflected in the percentage of people that actually want a job. Why get a job or earn your keep? More and more just feel like they should just get stuff, just because.

When people are raised with the entitlement mentality mentality we get the brain dead like yourself wondering around in their sleep mumbling about how the entitled are out to 'get me'. It you were to notice where you have your head you might understand why you think the world stinks. Don't get upset. These are just facts.
 

OverVolt

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Videogames... its the videogames. I know it.. you know it. Your mom upstairs definitely knows it. Oh and take out the trash already you were supposed to do it yesterday.

I was playing destiny with a guy and I could clearly hear his dad in the background like "Grown man playin destiny at 1am whats the matter with you blah blah."

Like hey I play for an hour after evening shift, but no amount of videogames could solace living with my parents ever again. The less I play the less I miss them and the more obvious to me it has become that the people who stuck with next gen gaming and are playing alot are going to be doing it until they are 70 and inherit the house. THEN they'll panic and get a job when the taxes come due.

Its really quite sad there are a ton of people out there afraid to live life.
 
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Zorkorist

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The federal government spends so much money, and regulates so many businesses, that there is nothing left for a business owner. He's taxed, and regulated to hell and back.

Therefore his employees suffer. He has to get them as efficient as possible, to try and make a profit. He works them to the bone, but makes sure their hours are just under federal full-time regulations, so he doesn't have to insure them.

Fuck Government.

I don't want to work for you too.

-John
 

ivwshane

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Interesting.

I wonder how many non "marginally attached" are going to school and if that's part of the reason. I wonder how many aren't looking because they feel the pay for their skill isn't worth it?
 

OverVolt

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Interesting.

I wonder how many non "marginally attached" are going to school and if that's part of the reason. I wonder how many aren't looking because they feel the pay for their skill isn't worth it?

Alot. Everyone has been brain washed into thinking real work = for suckers.

Many HIDE in school explicitly because I suppose deep down they know they won't get a job or feel they aren't prepared for the workforce so of course the answer is more school and more debt. This ties in with the student loan economic WMD playing out like a slow motion trainwreck.

I saw a job that required my type of degree but involved quite a bit of labor (in a chemical manufacturing plant) and I was like well if you gotta do what you gotta do that jobs not so bad (paid decent like $20/hr starting, was just sort of dangerous) and my classmate was like... you have to wear a respirator? Shouldn't they get like immigrants to do it or something?
 
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ivwshane

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The federal government spends so much money, and regulates so many businesses, that there is nothing left for a business owner. He's taxed, and regulated to hell and back.

Therefore his employees suffer. He has to get them as efficient as possible, to try and make a profit. He works them to the bone, but makes sure their hours are just under federal full-time regulations, so he doesn't have to insure them.

Fuck Government.

I don't want to work for you too.

-John


Hey here is a surprise! Your claim is full of shit!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...01aad2-ca54-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html

Take, for instance, their profit margins. On average, small businesses reported a net profit margin of 5.2 percent in 2007, prior to the collapse, according to data compiled by financial services firm Sageworks. Not surprisingly, their margins thinned to less than 4 percent in 2008 and 2009, slightly below the average for companies of all sizes.

Over the past four years, though, the average small company’s profit margin has gained back ground every year. In 2013, it climbed all the way up to 8.5 percent, higher even than the average net profit margin for all companies (8.2 percent).

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/0...lice-of-economy-as-wages-slide.html?referrer=

The Commerce Department last week estimated that corporations earned $2.1 trillion during 2013, and paid $419 billion in corporate taxes. The after-tax profit of $1.7 trillion amounted to 10 percent of gross domestic product during the year, the first full year it has been that high. In 2012, it was 9.7 percent, itself a record.

Btw, I just shat in your bubble!
 
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Zorkorist

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What claim did I make? Fuck face?

I presented an answer to the ops question.

You can continue to mire in the mud, and attack answers, but stop talking like you bring the truth.

-John
 

ivwshane

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Alot. Everyone has been brain washed into thinking real work = for suckers.

Many HIDE in school explicitly because I suppose deep down they know they won't get a job or feel they aren't prepared for the workforce so of course the answer is more school and more debt. This ties in with the student loan economic WMD playing out like a slow motion trainwreck.

I saw a job that required my type of degree but involved quite a bit of labor (in a chemical manufacturing plant) and I was like well if you gotta do what you gotta do that jobs not so bad (paid decent like $20/hr starting, was just sort of dangerous) and my classmate was like... you have to wear a respirator? Shouldn't they get like immigrants to do it or something?

Gee I wonder why they would think that?

The Commerce Department also said total wages and salaries last year amounted to $7.1 trillion, or 42.5 percent of the entire economy. That was down from 42.6 percent in 2012 and was lower than in any year previously measured.

Profits up!
Taxes paid, down!
Employes compensation, down!

Apparently someone is a sucker.
 

ivwshane

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What claim did I make? Fuck face?

I presented an answer to the ops question.

You can continue to mire in the mud, and attack answers, but stop talking like you bring the truth.

-John

I even quoted your fucking dumb ass and you don't know what claim you made?

Perhaps one of your other personalities will chime in, that's why you reply multiple times in row, right?
 

OverVolt

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Gee I wonder why they would think that?



Profits up!
Taxes paid, down!
Employes compensation, down!

Apparently someone is a sucker.

Okay so everyone is struggling to survive in light of greedy and powerful corporations. Time to kick back on my Sony PS4 and play some EA madden, munch on some Doritos and drink mountain dew. Thats how you survive for sure. Cause I'm sure you're making a ton of real life contacts who will drop their destiny grind in a moments notice and drive 2,500 miles to help out their bro legolas329847 out if the economy turned for the worse.
 
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ivwshane

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Okay so everyone is struggling to survive in light of greedy and powerful corporations. Time to kick back on my Sony PS4 and play some EA madden, munch on some Doritos and drink mountain dew. Thats how you survive for sure. Cause I'm sure you're making a ton of real life contacts who will drop their destiny grind in a moments notice and drive 2,500 miles to you and help their bro legolas329847 out.


Hey I never said it was a smart move. Most young people I know live at home anyway so what exactly are they losing?
 

Dannar26

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When employers are out to grind you into dust and you're going to need government assistance to survive even if you have a job, why bother looking?

Not defending most employers, but shit needs to get done. It's not always enjoyable or glamorous. Life is tough, and it takes work to survive. I love how people can just "opt out" of this.

A lot of job misery isn't even company related, but rather the fault of terrible managers or shitty co workers. If everybody at least has a working relationship and stays positive and motivated, it'll be a great place to work regardless of the line of work
 

Svnla

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Where is the old American attitude of "rugged and can do anything"? <sad panda>
 

TheSlamma

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I've been in a position that hires for about 10 years now and I have seen the amount of applications for jobs we post drop dramatically.

My best friend is also the manager of a big tool supply chain company here in Colorado that does very well and he and I talked about this last summer, he used to post help wanted ads and get hundreds of applications, now it takes him 3 months to fill a position and most of the time it's just people ask for him to sign off their paperwork so they can submit it for their unemployment benefits. He tells them sorry I won't do that until you apply and come in for an interview at a minimum.
 

Jhhnn

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Get some skills and aim a little higher than Walmart and minimum wage.

Standard right wing bullshit. It's like getting a flight when all the airlines are booked & overbooked. It doesn't change the number of seats available.
 
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