PF Changs != Chinese food

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bunnyfubbles

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because Chinese food is crap

Americanized Chinese food is amazing

Just like Americanized Mexican food > Mexican

Or Americanized Italian > Italian.

We steal it and make it better suite or palates, deal with it.
 

MJinZ

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because Chinese food is crap

Americanized Chinese food is amazing

Just like Americanized Mexican food > Mexican

Or Americanized Italian > Italian.

We steal it and make it better suite or palates, deal with it.

Better suit our palates.
 

KeithTalent

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because Chinese food is crap

Americanized Chinese food is amazing

Just like Americanized Mexican food > Mexican

Or Americanized Italian > Italian.

We steal it and make it better suite or palates, deal with it.

I sure hope this is a joke. :hmm:

KT
 

Ika

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Having only read the first page of this thread I'm sure lots of people have said it already - I'm Chinese and food at PF Changs is not bad. It's satisfying enough, just expensive for what you get.
 

BrokenVisage

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because Chinese food is crap

Americanized Chinese food is amazing

Just like Americanized Mexican food > Mexican

Or Americanized Italian > Italian.

We steal it and make it better suite or palates, deal with it.

1000 x this, even though I don't even like Americanized Chinese food.
 

Gibson486

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Aug 9, 2000
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Nothing to get heated about....

Here is the one truth...

If you served authentic foreign cuisine in any country (I am talking about what you make at home), people wont eat it. In China and France, they eat cockroaches and bugs.You will not find that in the US. Heck, most people here never even had snail. If you had a business, you would be dumb to not cater to the general public. It's really that simple. You can try to spread culture through food all you want, but in the end, that does not pay the bills.
 

KIAman

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PF Chang's is Chinese food, and it's good.

Just expensive.

Ahahaha, no it's not. My wife is Chinese who cooks Chinese food all the time. My best analogy is the following

PF Chang's is to Chinese food as
Walmart Maple Syrup is to real Syrup...

but they charge you 10x more for Walmart.
 

QueBert

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Ahahaha, no it's not. My wife is Chinese who cooks Chinese food all the time. My best analogy is the following

PF Chang's is to Chinese food as
Walmart Maple Syrup is to real Syrup...

but they charge you 10x more for Walmart.

It is Chinese food, the fact you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good either. I would be willing to bet any amount of money that if you took 1,000 random people and gave them your wifes cooking or PF Changs and asked them which they preferred. The majority would pick PF Changs. Which doesn't prove one's better than the other, it just shows you everyone's different. PF Changs might not be authentic, but the one by me always has a huge wait. So they're obviously doing something right. And yes it is Chinese food, because I have friends who doesn't like Chinese food, and not surprisingly they won't eat there.
 

ebaycj

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This place is a disgrace to asian food, and usually filled with rich white people thinking they are trendy and cool.

Its so fucking gross that I couldn't even stand to finish my dish and complained to the manager about it. I ended up getting the whole dinner for me and two friends for free because even after we got new dishes they were still disgusting enough not to eat.

what the hell did you order?
 

BrokenVisage

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This place is a disgrace to asian food, and usually filled with rich white people thinking they are trendy and cool.

Its so fucking gross that I couldn't even stand to finish my dish and complained to the manager about it. I ended up getting the whole dinner for me and two friends for free because even after we got new dishes they were still disgusting enough not to eat.

The rich white people grossed you out so you complained and got a free meal?
 

tk149

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I've lived most of my life in the U.S. I've tried many different Chinese restaurants across the states. I've only eaten at PF Chang's maybe twice, but wasn't really impressed by it.

I've had "real" Chinese food in Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai, Xian, etc. Some of it was ordered by a tour company, some by a friend (who's a Beijing native), some by my dad (who was born in China but has spent the last 50 years in the U.S.)

"Real" Chinese food is very different from Americanized Chinese food. I love Panda Express Orange Chicken, but it does not compare to the "real" stuff. Even to my American palate, real Chinese food tastes better. Although, as already mentioned by a previous poster, food quality really does depend on where you go, moreso than in the U.S.

Dishes ordered by my dad in Xian tasted just like dishes from Chicago's Chinatown...but it was very different from the stuff ordered by my Beijing friend.

My conclusion: Americans eat salt and fat. If I could get the same veggie dishes here that I ate in China, I'd be a heckuva lot thinner and healthier. Chinese actually know how to make veggies taste good!
 
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Cuisine in China isn't even that good unless you go south.. Shanghai is decent, but what you eat in the central areas and Beijing is utter crap.

HK is where it's at and so is Taiwan. If you know the right places to hit up in the US it's all pretty good.
 

dighn

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Cuisine in China isn't even that good unless you go south.. Shanghai is decent, but what you eat in the central areas and Beijing is utter crap.

HK is where it's at and so is Taiwan. If you know the right places to hit up in the US it's all pretty good.

I wouldn't say it's all crap. While it's true that food up north (I'm talking about really north here, not the HK/Taiwan definition of "north" i.e. anything north of them ) is generally poorer, there are specialties that you can get if you know about them e.g. peiking duck, dumplings, hot pot, various spicy foods etc. Shanghai gets its cuisine mostly from the surrounding regions (downstream of yangtze) which is historically famous for its excellent food.

Though I will say that the cantonese really know their food. I would say cantonese food is the most sophisticated out of all the families of cuisine in China, and actually american chinese branched from that (very different though). taiwanese food also looks excellent but I haven't had much exposure to it (it actually has a lot of "shanghainese" influence from what I see, probalby due to the influx of KMT personnel during the war).
 
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zinfamous

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chipotle isn't real mexican food either... but it's dayum tasty..
i love a good authentic mexican food place either, but i actually start to prefer chipotle burritos
but nothing beats a really good wet burrito

that sounds real dirty.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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My conclusion: Americans eat salt and fat. If I could get the same veggie dishes here that I ate in China, I'd be a heckuva lot thinner and healthier. Chinese actually know how to make veggies taste good!

That's your fault not the restaurants fault. You're just going to the wrong places to eat here then if you can't find any good places.
 

quikah

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Cuisine in China isn't even that good unless you go south.. Shanghai is decent, but what you eat in the central areas and Beijing is utter crap.

HK is where it's at and so is Taiwan. If you know the right places to hit up in the US it's all pretty good.

Bah, Jiangsu cuisine is the best.
 

guyver01

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Sep 25, 2000
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except PF Changs is palatable, as opposed to whatever it is the Olive Garden tries to sell you.

Except Olive Garden has some really awesome salad. They should bottle their salad dressing. (and no.. it's not normal creamy italian dressing... its.. different)
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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I've lived most of my life in the U.S. I've tried many different Chinese restaurants across the states. I've only eaten at PF Chang's maybe twice, but wasn't really impressed by it.

I've had "real" Chinese food in Hong Kong, Beijing, Shanghai, Xian, etc. Some of it was ordered by a tour company, some by a friend (who's a Beijing native), some by my dad (who was born in China but has spent the last 50 years in the U.S.)

"Real" Chinese food is very different from Americanized Chinese food. I love Panda Express Orange Chicken, but it does not compare to the "real" stuff. Even to my American palate, real Chinese food tastes better. Although, as already mentioned by a previous poster, food quality really does depend on where you go, moreso than in the U.S.

Dishes ordered by my dad in Xian tasted just like dishes from Chicago's Chinatown...but it was very different from the stuff ordered by my Beijing friend.

My conclusion: Americans eat salt and fat. If I could get the same veggie dishes here that I ate in China, I'd be a heckuva lot thinner and healthier. Chinese actually know how to make veggies taste good!
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