Pharmacist who killed robber guilty of murder

[Powermoloch]

Jeebus, 1st shot in the head is good enough

5 more times?!?!?!?!?!? OVERKILL

 

[the DRIZZLE]

You're missing the part where he went to get a SECOND gun and then shot him FIVE times.

That's premeditated.

You certainly can make the case for first degree, but given that the guy was just robbed at gun point and this all happened quickly I would have given the him benefit of the doubt and gone for a lesser charge. Its not like he woke up in the morning planning to shoot someone.

 

[Brigandier]

His thought processes turned to "I am going to kill this guy." That is not acceptable in our society because it's not self-defense. During the time he went to get a second gun, he was not thinking about elmininating a threat because the threat was already gone. He was no longer under duress. He had time to cool off and not shoot the guy again. However he chose not to, and it's cost him dearly.

It has, I guess in the end I sympathize with him, and I just wish he had not said as much, and his lawyer said more.

As I think about it, I really cannot hope for his appeals to succeed, because that would entail overturning the original ruling and letting him off, and that is not what I want. This situation is FUBAR, and though I can empathize with his actions and provide scapegoats, I cannot ultimately say he shouldn't be punished.

That mother no longer has a son, even though that son is a robber, and that needs to be addressed. If this man rots for his inebriated(on adrenaline) decisions, so be it. I'd prefer a lesser judgement, but I'm sure the jury debated that.

My arguments arise from wanting to defend any fellow man, not because I think what was done was unequivocally right.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

he shot and killed an unarmed boy. seems like murder to me.

Total fucking bullshit.... Had that same unarmed boy's partner killed the pharmicist, he would have been found guilty of murder right along with his parnter.

You commit a crime, you get what you get.

The jury exhibited an emotional reaction to the secondary shots fired by the victim. This will be appealed and I hope the victim is found not guilty.

 

[goog40]

Can they charge the 14 year old with murder too, since it happened while they were committing a felony?

Antwun Parker's Mom Says Son's A 'Hero'

Apparently getting shot in the face when trying to rob someone by gunpoint makes you a hero

 

[Geocentricity]

Total fucking bullshit.... Had that same unarmed boy's partner killed the pharmicist, he would have been found guilty of murder right along with his parnter.

You commit a crime, you get what you get.

The jury exhibited an emotional reaction to the secondary shots fired by the victim. This will be appealed and I hope the victim is found not guilty.

Intent to murder by the robbers is not established and clear during the robbery.

However, the pharmacist's intent was CLEARLY to kill Parker after he was already incapacitated.

 

[mrjminer]

He must have had a pretty bad lawyer. I'd think a competent lawyer would have been able to easily lowered it from first degree murder simply by arguing the likelihood of the head injury being fatal would be extremely high prior to arrival to a facility capable of handling a head shot and the pharmacist was merely putting him out of his misery.

Even if he's found guilty of something in an appeal, there's no way it should be first degree murder based on the circumstances. If the robbers shot him, they wouldn't even get first degree murder. I'd give him community service, then let him off with time served.

 

[Ruptga]

His crime is very much 1st degree murder. He chose to execute someone and it wasn't in the heat of the moment. He came back to the victim and finished him off. He made a very poor choice in doing that and became the monster he was fighting.

/thread

 

[zinfamous]

First degree murder seems a bit too much given the circumstances. Second degree on manslaughter would be more appropriate IMO.

dude was down. pharmacist chases other guy, walks back into store, walks over to the drawer, grabs another gun--loads it? then walks over to the kid and shoots him, walks back to the drawer, calls police.

um, no. that is fucking murder. no accident occurred, which is manslaughter if I'm not mistaken.

of course, if Jeebus weren't banned, he could tell me how I was wrong. Maybe Motion Man will step in. :\

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Intent to murder by the robbers is not established and clear during the robbery.

However, the pharmacist's intent was CLEARLY to kill Parker after he was already incapacitated.

You bolded the wrong part.

You commit a crime, you get what you get.

 

[zinfamous]

You bolded the wrong part.

You commit a crime, you get what you get.

yep. 2 crimes committed here: attempted armed robbery by the worthless 14 year old POS, and murder by the pharmacist.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

dude was down. pharmacist chases other guy, walks back into store, walks over to the drawer, grabs another gun--loads it? then walks over to the kid and shoots him, walks back to the drawer, calls police.

um, no. that is fucking murder. no accident occurred, which is manslaughter if I'm not mistaken.

of course, if Jeebus weren't banned, he could tell me how I was wrong. Maybe Motion Man will step in. :\

It's murder, but second not first degree. Its a stretch to say that this was premeditated.

 

[QueBert]

Total fucking bullshit.... Had that same unarmed boy's partner killed the pharmicist, he would have been found guilty of murder right along with his parnter.

You commit a crime, you get what you get.

The jury exhibited an emotional reaction to the secondary shots fired by the victim. This will be appealed and I hope the victim is found not guilty.

umm the victim's dead here, I'm pretty sure that gets him off the hook for being guilty.

Murder >>>> Robbery, it's not even close which was the more serious crime here.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The pharmacist went overboard.

 

[ahenkel]

Agree with the jury pharmacist went way overboard. Self defense laws aren't vigilante laws.

 

[Kirby]

Meh, he probably wouldn't have been even indicted here.

I wouldn't care if he cut off the kid's head and put it on a stick at the entrance to ward off future robbers. Fuckers don't get any sympathy from me.

 

[Mike Gayner]

First degree murder seems a bit too much given the circumstances. Second degree on manslaughter would be more appropriate IMO.

How do you figure it's manslaughter? The killing clearly has the characteristics of a mens rea for murder.

 

[Hacp]

This is the problem with America. We punish good people who contribute to society(the pharmacist) while we defend robbers, thugs, and the like who want to make America a poor shithole. That 14 year old had the intent to rob, steal, and destroy the pharmacist. I bear no ill will towards the pharmacist for killing a crook.

 

[Hacp]

How do you figure it's manslaughter? The killing clearly has the characteristics of a mens rea for murder.

Pharmacist minding his own business is confronted by a crook with a gun. Battle ensues and in the end, the pharmacist ends up alive and the crook ends up dead. The right thing happened.

 

[Gibson486]

2nd degree murder? Why? his intent was to kill the guy. 1 shot fine....2nd or manslaughter. However, he shot him 5 times when he was laying on the ground. He just executed him.

 

[Zebo]

LOL bullshit?

After threat was gone. He went back to the counter and reloaded and finished off the kid laying helpless. Thats MURDER!

 

[classy]

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the intruder was waving a damn gun...such bullshit

That is first degree murder. He had already shot the kid in the head. He then shoots him 5 more times, that is murder plain and simple.

 

[Zebo]

he shot and killed an unarmed boy. seems like murder to me.

Unarmed does not matter. Mike Tyson could kill you with one punch and certainly with his bare hands. Reasonable fear for life does matter.

Obviously kid laying helpless shot bleeding does not meet that standard.

 

[Zebo]

It's murder, but second not first degree. Its a stretch to say that this was premeditated.

going back to counter and reloading. You don't need a week of planning for it to be 1st degree. Couple minutes will do.

 

[marvdmartian]

Fool. Should have used the temporary insanity plea. "I was so scared out of my wits that I didn't know what I was doing!"

For sure, he must have been insane, or stupid, to forget he had security cameras in the pharmacy!