phenom Pineda dealt to Yankees

[NeoV]

How is this even possible? Montero is a nice-looking bat, but Pineda is a front of the rotation guy for a decade. Someone help me out here - why and how would the Mariners even consider dealing this guy, and how do they not get a bigger return?

Also, the Yankees signed Kuroda for 10M, 1 year deal - so their rotation is CC, Nova, Pineda, Kuroda, and Hughes/Garcia/Burnett.

that is nice depth - I've always thought Burnett should be converted to the bullpen anyway

 

[RavenSEAL]

Holy stacked rotation, the Rays are f***ed.

 

[Kyle]

shows how bad we needed bats...we've got a *lot* of young arms coming up. It does hurt to see him go though. It'll be interesting to see how he does in his second year- he struggled a bit in the second half.

Wish him well...and hope Montero pans out. Now if we could only land Prince...I know- wishful thinking...

 

[Kyle]

And I'm actually not surprised he was traded...he'd been in trade talks for awhile. Now I would have been *shocked* if they traded Felix (which I guess the Yankees asked about before settling for Pindea).

 

[NeoV]

Fielder is said to be in Texas tonight, finalizing a deal with the Rangers - and Darvish should be signed any day now, the rich get richer!

 

[Kyle]

Fielder is said to be in Texas tonight, finalizing a deal with the Rangers - and Darvish should be signed any day now, the rich get richer!

shit...hadn't heard that

 

[Perknose]

Fielder is said to be in Texas tonight, finalizing a deal with the Rangers - and Darvish should be signed any day now, the rich get richer!

Dream on, the Rangers won't spend big on both; it's either or. If they don't sign Darvish (the deadline is coming up), then they'll spring for Prince.

But I came in here to say, WOW! The Yanks did alright, and are now officially loaded in every possible way.

 

[NeoV]

I think the Rangers can afford both Fielder and Darvish, but we'll see

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Good deal for the Bombers! There's no doubt that Montero is a big league hitter, but there's plenty of doubt whether he's a legit catcher. If he turns into a real every-day catcher with that kind of bat the Mariners got decent value in return. But if Montero has to be transitioned into a DH/1B or corner outfielder then Seattle made a bad trade. If Pineda stays healthy that's the kind of arm that will make a big difference in the AL East. He's got 20 win caliber stuff with a good hitting team behind him.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Don't forget they signed Kuroda today too

 

[Poulsonator]

How is this possible? The Mariners are stupid. Who gives up a 23-year-old pitching stud with 5 years of control left? Jack Z, that's who.

Not that they weren't before, but the Yanks are a lock for the AL East crown now.

 

[Patranus]

Can we have a (hard) salary cap?
Pretty please?

 

[Poulsonator]

Oh yea, the Yankess also got RHP Jose Campos in the deal, one of the Mariners' top pitching prospects.

uke:

 

[paperfist]

Can we have a (hard) salary cap?
Pretty please?

Sure as soon as teams collecting revenue sharing welfare start spending their food stamps.

Adios Montero, we hardly knew you

 

[nycxandy]

Can we have a (hard) salary cap?
Pretty please?

Anti-Yankee much? As it stands, the trade was pretty even and both sides came out winners.

 

[zinfamous]

I think the Rangers can afford both Fielder and Darvish, but we'll see

Aren't they still paying for A-Rod's hilarious contract?

:hmm:

 

[davmat787]

I think I am the resident (token?) Mariners fan 'round these parts. My first M's game was in 1980. I attended every Randy Johnson start in 1995. I was about 10 seats away sitting in the clowd crowd when McGwire hit that record distance home run off of RJ, who struck out something like 18 batters that game if I remember correctly. I was at "The Game©" when the M's beat the Yanks in the playoffs, the one where Ken Griffey Jr. ran faster than he ever has from 1st to Home on Edgar's double to win the series.

Wow, that was a long time ago, lol. Anyway....

Pineda has been a joy to watch as he burst on the scene. However, this trade makes a ton of sense for M's fans, it is a classic "trade your strength for a weakness" type of deal. The M's drafted Denny Hultzen who you may remember from the College World Series with the #2 pick, and have a ton of pitching talent. However, the M's have had a historically awful offense the past three seasons. An offense that allowed Felix to win the Cy Young with only 13 wins, although he had a 2.27 ERA, and a 1.0 WHIP.

The M's are not a team that can or will sign the blockbuster free agent to gain offense either. Couple that with the amount of pitching in the org, and the lack of offense, and the trade makes sense. I don't yet understand why Campo's had to be included when NY is/was desperate to make a pitching move. I would think the two could have been traded straight up, or have a slightly lesser other player included. Got to look into that.

With Pineda pitching in NY now, at least people will learn just how good he was last season, and no doubt will be in the future. He put up some amazing stats, especially for a 23 yo rookie. Starks analysis of the trade, with some interesting notes of Pineda's rookie season:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove11/s...-york-yankees-upgrade-their-starting-rotation

edit: reading comments on ESPN, the Yankees fans are a bunch of entitled insufferable douchebags, as if it needs to be said. However, there does appear to be some consensus among the real fans that this is a good deal for both teams, both trading a strength for a weakness.

 

[KMFJD]

Can we have a (hard) salary cap?
Pretty please?

Socialist!

/agree

 

[HFS+]

My yankees will beat the redsox this year fuck boston!

I live in massachuetts but fuck the redsox i cant stand them and boston

 

[UncleWai]

Look at the history of our team overpaying for shitty starters. And few years ago we traded adam jones for B-tard. Now we are trading an undervalued pitcher for an unproven hitter. We are just going in circles. Face it, our team sucks.

 

[paperfist]

Look at the history of our team overpaying for shitty starters. And few years ago we traded adam jones for B-tard. Now we are trading an undervalued pitcher for an unproven hitter. We are just going in circles. Face it, our team sucks.

I don't think you can match the Yankees record for signing overpaid starters that are a bust.