Phil Donahue gives 'Billy' O'Reilly a wedgy

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O'REILLY: In the past Miss [Cindy] Sheehan has criticized Israel, saying it is occupying Palestine, has called Iraqi insurgents "freedom fighters," has accused Americans of killing people ever since we stepped on this continent, has threatened Hillary Clinton with the loss her job unless she calls for a pullout of US troops from Iraq and has called the US action against Afghanistan a failure. Quite a resume and with us now is Phil Donahue, who supports Miss Sheehan's "dissent."
So, I'm assuming you don't - you don't support all her positions that I just chronicled.

DONAHUE: Let's understand what's happening here. Once again we have a woman who got to be just a little too famous for the people who support this war, a minority of the American population, by the way, and so the effort to marginalize this woman is underway and you're helping out.

O'REILLY: I'm the leader of the pack!

DONAHUE: You're suggesting ...

O'REILLY: I'm the leader of the pack!

DONAHUE: First of all, Cindy Sheehan is one tough mother and nothing you say or anyone else is gonna slow her down.

O'REILLY: That's fine. She has a right to ...

DONAHUE: You can't hurt her. She's already taken the biggest punch in the nose that a woman can take.

O'REILLY: How?!

DONAHUE: She lost a son.

O'REILLY: Oh. OK.

DONAHUE: She's lost a child.

O'REILLY: But look - I'm not puttin' words in her mouth ...

DONAHUE: And by the way, she is going to be at the center of one of the largest rallies since the Vietnam War. Proud, patriotic Americans who will show up in Washington this week for one of the most massive, largest demonstrations - protest demonstrations ...

O'REILLY: OK. And we'll cover it.

DONAHUE: ... right outside the President's window.

O'REILLY: And we'll cover it.

DONAHUE: And FOX is in the business of saying that this woman is somehow saying un-American things - hyperbole.

O'REILLY (getting angry): No. No. No. No.

DONAHUE: Listen to what she's saying.

O'REILLY (checking his notes): Nobody said she said anything un-American. We say that her positions are radical. And they are radical!

DONAHUE: Let me tell you what's radical. (getting a little angry himself) What's radical is to send more Americans to die in this war, which is a monumental blunder by a President ...

O'REILLY (under his breath): Alright.

DONAHUE: ... who swaggered us into it with - by the way - the at least tacit approval of the Democratic Party.

O'REILLY (shifts in his chair, upset): You know what's radical ...

DONAHUE: There's a lot of sin to go around here!

O'REILLY (angry, wags finger at Donahue): What's radical for this -

DONAHUE (won't let O'Reilly finish sentence): Do you want to send more people to this war?

O'REILY: Hey listen ...

DONAHUE: Is that your postiion?

O'REILLY: If we cut and run outta there, like you wanna do, we would be putting every American in a thousand times more jeopardy than they're in now.

DONAHUE (forcefully): We're going to cut and run anyway, Bill.

O'REILLY: Well, that's your opinion. I don't think we are.

DONAHUE: It's not my opinion. American military leaders have said we're gonna draw down beginning next year. The reason they've said that ...

O'REILLY(angry now): There's a difference between drawin' down and cuttin' and runnin'!

DONAHUE: Alright....

O'REILLY (angry, jabs finger at Donahue): You're a cut and run guy and I don't want my family in danger because of you ...

DONAHUE: You wanna stay the course, don't ya'?

O'REILLY: Look.

DONAHUE: You don't ...

O'REILLY (getting angrier): Here's what I want to do. I want to give the Iraqis a chance to train their army so they can defeat these people who are tryin' to turn it into a terror state.

DONAHUE (calmly): Bill

O'REILLY: That's what I want to do! Go!

DONAHUE: Bill. This - Iraq was not a terrorist state.

O'REILLY (exasperated): Oh, no!

DONAHUE: I hope I don't patronize you for saying ...

O'REILLY (dismissive hand gesture) : Saddam was a swell guy!!

DONAUME: Saddam ...

O'REILLY (loudly, sarcastically): He was just a great guy!!

DONAHUE (louder): Saddam - Saddam was a bastard, but he was our bastard!!

O'REILLY: He wasn't anybody's ...

DONAHUE: Donald Rumsfeld shook his hand in the 80s.

O'REILLY: Alright. Well that's great.

DONAHUE: You saw the pictures! (reasonable tone of voice) Now listen - listen. You wouldn't send your children to this war, Bill.

O'REILLY (very angry, pointing): My nephew just enlisted in the Army. You don't know what the hell you're talkin' about!!!

DONAHUE: Very good. Very good. Congratulations! You should be proud ..

O'REILLY (starts to lose it, shouting, pointing finger, hand shaking): And he's a patriot, so don't denigrate his service or I'll boot you right off the set!!!

DONAHUE: I'm not ... I'm not ...

O'REILLY (very, very loud): That boy made a decision to serve his country!!! Do not denigrate him or you're outta here!!!

DONAHUE (calmly): I'm not Jeremy Glick, Billy.

O'REILLY: That's right!!

DONAHUE: You can't intimidate me!!

O'REILLY: You're a little bit more intelligent that he is!!

DONAHUE: I'm not somebody you can come and just spew all your ...

O'REILLY: Don't tell me I wouldn't send my kids.

DONAHUE: Loud doesn't mean right!

O'REILLY: My nephew just enlisted. You don't know what you're talkin' about!!

DONAHUE: Your nephew is not your kid. You are like ...

O'REILLY: He's my blood!

DONAHUE: You are part of a loud group of people who wanna prove they're tough ...

O'REILLY (shifts angrily in his chair, under his breath): Aw fer ...

DONAHUE: ... and send other people's kids to war to make the case.

O'REILLY (very loud): You have no clue ...

DONAHUE: This ..

O'REILLY: ... about how to fight a war on terror or how to defend your country. You are clueless! So is Miss Sheehan and for Miss Sheehan to say that the insurgents have a right to kill Americans and you're shakin' her hand! You oughta just walk away.

DONHUE (quieter): How many more young men and women are you gonna send to have their arms and legs blown off ...

O'REILY: Hey, this is a war on terror!

DONAHUE: ... so that you can be tough (points his finger at O'Reilly) and point at people in a kind of cowardly way..

O'REILLY (disgusted, under his breath): Oh, yeah.

DONHUE: Take people like Jeremy Glick who comes on to - in memory of his parents ...

O'REILLY: Oh bull.

DONAHUE: ... and you go off on him.

O'REILLY: Jeremy Glick accu ...

DONAHUE: ... like a big bully.

O'REILLY: Hey!

DOAHUE: Billy, you hafta be - you hafta feel sorry ...

O'REILLY: Mr. Donahue, with all due respect ...

DONAHUE: Have you apologized to him for that?

O'REILLY: Baloney!

DONAHUE: Do you know ...

O'REILLY: Jeremy Glick came on this program ...

DONAHUE: Do you know what I'm talking about?

O'REILLY: ... and accused the President of the United States ...

DONAHUE (sarcastically): Oh, and you had to ..

O'REILLY: ... of orchestrating 9/11. (LIAR!) That's what he did. Right after 9/11!! Do you know what the pain that brought the families who lost people in 9/11?

DONAHUE: This war ...

O'REILLY: You buy into left-wing propaganda ...

DONAHUE: This war ..

O'REILLY: ... and you're a mouthpiece for it. (shifts in seat, clenched mouth) Go ahead.

DONAHUE: This war is not fair to the American troops. This war is unconstitutional. This war turned its back on the people who framed the most fabulous document in the history of civilization. I speak of the United States Constitution.

O'REILLY: Alright. Why ...

DONAHUE: This ... By the way ...

O'REILLY: Why isn't the Democratic party speaking that way?

DONAHUE: I'm sorry that it isn't. I am. But let's understand something ...

O'REILLY: Are we all ...

DONAHUE: Excuse me.

O'REILLY: Are well so misguided ...

DONAHUE: Excuse me. Twenty-one Democrats in the Senate voted against this war as well as Jeffords, an Independent, and- may the Lord shine His blessings down upon Lincoln Chaffee ...

O'REILLY: Alright. I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna ...

DONAHUE (louder, refuses to be stopped): I'm almost finished, Billy!!

O'REILLY: I'm gonna give ya' the last word.

DONAHUE: I'm almost finished!

O'REILLY: Alright.

DONAHUE: Lincoln Chaffee, the only Republican in the Senate to vote against this war. We should be building statues to all these people. October 2002 ...

O'REILLY: Alright;

DONAHUE: ... they stood up to as President and they knew that, first of all, only Congress can declare war. Why is that unimportant to you, Billy?

O'REILLY: Listen. It's not - I'm not ...

DONAHUE: Become the patriot that your loud voice proclaims you to be ...

O'REILLY: The loud voice ...

DONAHUE: ... and stand behind the Constitution and insist that we never go to war again without the approval and the consent of the United States Congress.

O'REILLY: Alright . That's why we have the Congress. If they want to take action, they can take action. Now I'm gonna say somethin' then I'll give you the last word. The Iraq War is not something I embrace.

DONAHUE makes surprised sound.

O'REILLY: It absolutely could be a tactical error.

DONAHUE: Well you should ...

O'REILLY (louder): Just listen.

DONAHUE: It's hard to know this.

O'REILLY (louder): Listen ta' me ..

DONAHUE: It's hard to know this.

O'REILLY: ... and I'll give you the last word. Not something they embrace. Could be a tactical error and we have not waged it the way I had hoped we would wage it.

DONAHUE: But, what?

O'REILLY: But ,,,

DONAHUE: You want to send more kids ...

O'REILLY: The war on terror ...

DONAHUE: ... to die.

O'REILLY: We're in a war on terror. Our cause is noble.

DONAHUE: It has nothing to do with the war on terror.

O'REILLY (louder again): Yes, it does. And if you don't understand geopolitics, if you don't understand Iraq would be a terrorist state if we pulled outta there...

DONAHUE (loudly): It's a mistake.

O'REILLY: ... then you don't know anything. Go ahead.

DONAHUE: It was poorly planned ...

O'REILLY: Go ahead.

DONAHUE: ... and poorly executed but Bill O'Reilly wants to send more kids to fight and die. We've already had two thou - almost thousand - (gestures for O'Reilly to hold off) - just let me have the last word. In the last year two things have doubled. The number of dead American troops in Iraq has doubled and you know what else doubled, Billy? The price of Halliburton stock.

O'REILLY (upset): Alright.

DONAHUE: From $33 to $66. That doesn't shame you? That doesn't make you wonder ...

O'REILLY: I'm not upset by Halliburton stock.

DONAHUE: ... whether this is an enterprise that is worth the support of the American people. We need you at this rally on Saturday, Billy..

O'REILLY: OK. I'm not gonna be at your rally.

DONAHUE: We need you out there in front of it to protest.

O'REILLY: I'm not gonna be at your rally.

DONAHUE: There is no democracy without dissent.

O'REILLY: I'm not gonna protest.

DONHUE: You should be proud of people who stand up and dissent.

O'REILLY: I am. I respect your ...

DONAHUE: A lot of fine men died to give me that freedom.

O'REILLY: You got. You got it. I respect your dissent. I think you're way off in your analysis of the war on terror.

DONAHUE: You want to send more people to die? Is that your position?

O'REILLY: I wanna win the war in Iraq.

DONABHUE: Win. What does "win" mean?

O'REILLY: Means ...

DONAHUE: Tell me what "win" means?

O'REILLY: Means those people have a chance at democracy.

DOPNAHUE: How long's that gonna take.

O'REILLY: I gotta go. I gotta go.

DONAHUE: How long's that gonna take?

O'REILLY: Those people deserve a chance at freedom.
 

Jadow

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the thing I dislike most about Donahue's stance he always says "would you send your son to die?"

there are no parents sending their sons, our troops are adults who make their own decisions. To remove that responsibility from them and marginalize them is disrespectful and condescending.
 

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Originally posted by: Jadow
the thing I dislike most about Donahue's stance he always says "would you send your son to die?"

there are no parents sending their sons, our troops are adults who make their own decisions. To remove that responsibility from them and marginalize them is disrespectful and condescending.

yeah guess it beats saying 'mission accomplished'
 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: cwjerome

No. Obviously something COULD... like if Bush went on national tv and admitted he did the whole thing enrich a company (or two). Right.

All I'm saying is I don't accept any anti-war arguments enough to significantly change my mind. But I'm always open.
Again, though, I question whether you're as open as you think. It seems to me the war's alleged premises have been pretty much comprehensively disproven, the administration rather obviously had no real exit strategy from the beginning, and the situation there seems to be getting worse rather than improving. If none of that changes your mind, and if, as you say, the only thing that WOULD is essentially an impossibility, you have to acknowledge you fit into one of a fairly small number of possibile views:

1) You believe passionately in the idea that the war will help "tame" the Middle East, making the whole world safer and leading to new economic and strategic opportunities for the US and Israel (i.e., the PNAC view, and the one held by every credible pro-war person I know, including some for whom I have great respect, although we differ on this subject).

2) You believe so passionately in President Bush and/or the Republican party that you don't care whether the justifications for the war made any sense or were, in fact, completely false.

3) You haven't thought about the root cause of the war and/or are just not disposed to question authority.

4) You so dislike the anti-war movement that you're supporting the war out of sheer orneriness.
Or, 5) All of the above.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But it's perfectly fine for you to clairvoyantly think and speak for thousands.

OMG. The irony of that statement is just overwhelming.

You noticed? :laugh:
Yeah. And I just hate myself for noticing.
Not for noticing, just generally. I have no problem telling you what you feel because I know what you feel. I was pointing out that GX was telling us what other people think and complaining about somebody else doing the same thing. I do not have to hit my thumb with a hammer to know what you go through when you do. I don't know what anybody is thinking, but I know the truth that people have hidden. The lover of daylight knows nothing of night vision.

"In the sea are treasures beyond compare, but if you seek safety it is on the shore."



 

OneOfTheseDays

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
i wouldn't suggest trying to argue with cwjerome and his radical views. ask him what he thinks about abortion, it'll make you think twice that he is a sane human being. the man would rather have a ruthless dictator who was against abortion as opposed to a Democrat. he is a radical Christian, with extremely radical views. your not going to get him to change.



I am very not-religious and I have never participated in an abortion thread... ever.



You truly are an idiot

i truly apologize. i mistook you for cyclowizard.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Thanks, morkinva, watching Phil knife right through that blustering, would-be bully really made my day! :thumbsup:

 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But it's perfectly fine for you to clairvoyantly think and speak for thousands.

OMG. The irony of that statement is just overwhelming.

You noticed? :laugh:
Yeah. And I just hate myself for noticing.
Not for noticing, just generally. I have no problem telling you what you feel because I know what you feel. I was pointing out that GX was telling us what other people think and complaining about somebody else doing the same thing. I do not have to hit my thumb with a hammer to know what you go through when you do. I don't know what anybody is thinking, but I know the truth that people have hidden. The lover of daylight knows nothing of night vision.

"In the sea are treasures beyond compare, but if you seek safety it is on the shore."
When you hit yourself with that hammer I seriously doubt it was your thumb, moonie.

But continue on with your trite little psycho-maniacal meanderings and pseudo-elite intellectual musings. At least they are good for a chuckle.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What's that have to do with your case?

What "case?"

I'm simply speculating on why you people would think anyone who goes to Iraq would suddenly change their mind about OIF.

I tend to think you people project your own fears and attitudes onto others.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What's that have to do with your case?

What "case?"

I'm simply speculating on why you people would think anyone who goes to Iraq would suddenly change their mind about OIF.

I tend to think you people project your own fears and attitudes onto others.
Just like tend to think "You People" are fine and dandy with supporting a war when your own neck isn't on the line. The only ones I don't question are those who actually put their money where their mouth is and sign up to go serve over there.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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if you truly believe in a war, then you should be fighting in the war itself. the problem with people like cwjerome is that they would never risk their own necks, yet have no problems sending others to their death. they are cowards.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But it's perfectly fine for you to clairvoyantly think and speak for thousands.

OMG. The irony of that statement is just overwhelming.

You noticed? :laugh:
Yeah. And I just hate myself for noticing.
Not for noticing, just generally. I have no problem telling you what you feel because I know what you feel. I was pointing out that GX was telling us what other people think and complaining about somebody else doing the same thing. I do not have to hit my thumb with a hammer to know what you go through when you do. I don't know what anybody is thinking, but I know the truth that people have hidden. The lover of daylight knows nothing of night vision.

"In the sea are treasures beyond compare, but if you seek safety it is on the shore."
When you hit yourself with that hammer I seriously doubt it was your thumb, moonie.

But continue on with your trite little psycho-maniacal meanderings and pseudo-elite intellectual musings. At least they are good for a chuckle.

No, I will never mention it again. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
if you truly believe in a war, then you should be fighting in the war itself. the problem with people like cwjerome is that they would never risk their own necks, yet have no problems sending others to their death. they are cowards.
Do you believe in the war on poverty?

Do you believe we should rebuild Lousiana?

Do you believe we should have police provide security for our towns?

Do you believe we should have firemen fight fires?

Do you believe we should be developing alternative energy?

Do you believe Hollywood should make better movies

If so you better go help the poor, grab a hammer and chainsaw and get your a$$ to Lousiana, become a policeman, become a fireman, join an alternative energy research group, and become a Hollywood producer and make a better damn movie.

Let us know how it goes, K?
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
if you truly believe in a war, then you should be fighting in the war itself. the problem with people like cwjerome is that they would never risk their own necks, yet have no problems sending others to their death. they are cowards.
Do you believe in the war on poverty?

Do you believe we should rebuild Lousiana?

Do you believe we should have police provide security for our towns?

Do you believe we should have firemen fight fires?

Do you believe we should be developing alternative energy?

Do you believe Hollywood should make better movies

If so you better go help the poor, grab a hammer and chainsaw and get your a$$ to Lousiana, become a policeman, become a fireman, join an alternative energy research group, and become a Hollywood producer and make a better damn movie.

Let us know how it goes, K?


This has to rank as one of the worst posts of all time. A warmonger like yourself trying to compare your support of death and destruction to being a firefighter or a bad movie. What a pathetic rant, E-soldier.
 
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
if you truly believe in a war, then you should be fighting in the war itself. the problem with people like cwjerome is that they would never risk their own necks, yet have no problems sending others to their death. they are cowards.
Do you believe in the war on poverty?

Do you believe we should rebuild Lousiana?

Do you believe we should have police provide security for our towns?

Do you believe we should have firemen fight fires?

Do you believe we should be developing alternative energy?

Do you believe Hollywood should make better movies

If so you better go help the poor, grab a hammer and chainsaw and get your a$$ to Lousiana, become a policeman, become a fireman, join an alternative energy research group, and become a Hollywood producer and make a better damn movie.

Let us know how it goes, K?


This has to rank as one of the worst posts of all time. A warmonger like yourself trying to compare your support of death and destruction to being a firefighter or a bad movie. What a pathetic rant, E-soldier.
WTF? Support of death and destruction? So fireman are in support of fires and policemen are in support of vandalism, murder, and rape?

Supporting the war involves death as an undesireable side effect, but in this case it's more about supporting security for our country in the long run and freedom for Iraqis in the short-run. But I'm not surprised someone as biased as you can't quite figure that out.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: cwjerome

Well, I don't sail by the winds of polls.

And no, I would not agree that there's nothing anyone could say that would change my mind about the war.

That begs the question, what would they have to say to do so? What would it take?
Probably notification that he was being drafted to go fight over there.
TADOW! there is your answer boys and girls.



 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
if you truly believe in a war, then you should be fighting in the war itself. the problem with people like cwjerome is that they would never risk their own necks, yet have no problems sending others to their death. they are cowards.
Do you believe in the war on poverty?

Do you believe we should rebuild Lousiana?

Do you believe we should have police provide security for our towns?

Do you believe we should have firemen fight fires?

Do you believe we should be developing alternative energy?

Do you believe Hollywood should make better movies

If so you better go help the poor, grab a hammer and chainsaw and get your a$$ to Lousiana, become a policeman, become a fireman, join an alternative energy research group, and become a Hollywood producer and make a better damn movie.

Let us know how it goes, K?


This has to rank as one of the worst posts of all time. A warmonger like yourself trying to compare your support of death and destruction to being a firefighter or a bad movie. What a pathetic rant, E-soldier.
WTF? Support of death and destruction? So fireman are in support of fires and policemen are in support of vandalism, murder, and rape?

Supporting the war involves death as an undesireable side effect, but in this case it's more about supporting security for our country in the long run and freedom for Iraqis in the short-run. But I'm not surprised someone as biased as you can't quite figure that out.


This has been covered again and again. Their brainless emotional plea has the exact same logic of the "love it or leave it" mentality. Of course a person can support any number of causes in any number of ways, but if they get their jollies off spouting the same old irrational talking points, who really cares? As far as I'm concerned, someone who honestly thinks that way isn't worth dealing with anyway. I can't worry myself with other people's glaring stupidity.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: cwjerome

Well, I don't sail by the winds of polls.

And no, I would not agree that there's nothing anyone could say that would change my mind about the war.

That begs the question, what would they have to say to do so? What would it take?
Probably notification that he was being drafted to go fight over there.
TADOW! there is your answer boys and girls.

Once again... just because you're a chickensh*t, you really shouldn't make the mistake of assuming everyone else feels the same and would do anything to avoid fighting. TADOW! don't make it so obvious...

 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: cwjerome

Well, I don't sail by the winds of polls.

And no, I would not agree that there's nothing anyone could say that would change my mind about the war.

That begs the question, what would they have to say to do so? What would it take?
Probably notification that he was being drafted to go fight over there.
TADOW! there is your answer boys and girls.

Once again... just because you're a chickensh*t, you really shouldn't make the mistake of assuming everyone else feels the same and would do anything to avoid fighting. TADOW! don't make it so obvious...
BLAMMO!

there, is that better?

you pose weak arguments. You are not worth anything more than a BLAMMO.

!

 

OneOfTheseDays

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they don't call them CHICKENhawks for nothing. and yes cwjerome, if you are willing to send other people to die in a war that you believe in, you should be fighting in it as well.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
they don't call them CHICKENhawks for nothing. and yes cwjerome, if you are willing to send other people to die in a war that you believe in, you should be fighting in it as well.

Well, that's your dumbass opinion... so what?

(by the way, do you join the military everytime they engage in something you support?)
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
they don't call them CHICKENhawks for nothing. and yes cwjerome, if you are willing to send other people to die in a war that you believe in, you should be fighting in it as well.

Well, that's your dumbass opinion... so what?

(by the way, do you join the military everytime they engage in something you support?)

The Army needs you E-Soldier!!
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
(by the way, do you join the military everytime they engage in something you support?)
Did you EVER put in any time in the military service?
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: cwjerome
(by the way, do you join the military everytime they engage in something you support?)
Did you EVER put in any time in the military service?


What difference does it make? I'm not accusing people who support our foreign policy of being "chickenhawks."
 
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