philip seymour hoffman dead per WSJ

[Anubis]

there was just a news report about Heroin and some dealers selling some super strong mixture that was killing people. It was on last week IIRC

wonder if thats what got him

 

[rudeguy]

there was just a news report about Heroin and some dealers selling some super strong mixture that was killing people. It was on last week IIRC

wonder if thats what got him

The article I read said it had been years since they had seen the brand (going by the packaging) the he had used. Every time these guys shoot up they are rolling the dice and they know it.

I feel bad for his friends and family. I hope they find peace.

 

[boomerang]

Supposedly they either have video or suspect they have video from an ATM showing this drug purchase. There was an eyewitness who saw him withdraw money and the drugs changing hands. Two guys wearing messenger bags worked together on the deal.

 

[Wyndru]

Supposedly 50 bags of heroin were found in his home, which makes me think this guy was a serious user.

Really sad.
RIP.

 

[CZroe]

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Wow. Not even close, by several cosmic furlongs.

That's the irony I was talking about. I hated Jack Black in everything he ever touched before "Bernie" and held a similar opinion as you no doubt hold. He may as well have been Adam Sandler to me.

After "Bernie" I can totally see him doing some of PSH's more likeable character roles. He'd make a good tragic Penguin in a Christopher Nolan Batman movie, for example. Bernie was tragic but likable so it doesn't show that he can replace PSH in his numerous sarcastic a-hole roles.

I should have said "[partially] fill" his niche.

 

[Perknose]

That's the irony I was talking about. I hated Jack Black in everything he ever touched before "Bernie" and held a similar opinion as you no doubt hold. He may as well have been Adam Sandler to me.

After "Bernie" I can totally see him doing some of PSH's more likeable character roles. He'd make a good tragic Penguin in a Christopher Nolan Batman movie, for example. Bernie was tragic but likable so it doesn't show that he can replace PSH in his numerous sarcastic a-hole roles.

I should have said "[partially] fill" his niche.

Ahh, ok, I haven't seem "Bernie," so it's hard for me to envision what you're talking about.

 

[Attic]

After a user has been clean for a while their tolerance goes back down to that of a noob user. If they shoot up the amount they had been using before rehab it can kill them.

That is lession #1 in rehab. PSH would have been viciously aware of that important condition given he was recently in rehab.

But also the purity of the stuff is unpredictable and we'll have to wait if someone else was there with him to see if PSH measured/injected or if the drug was tainted or other. It's possible he willingly injected a lethal dose.

Loved him on screen. Hated Capote.

 

[Theb]

That's a shame. I should probably rewatch Love Lisa. That's the role I'll always remember him for.

 

[iamwiz82]

Just saw some pictures of him from mid-January, he surely didn't look well. Apparently the split with his girlfriend was an unraveling point.

 

[iamwiz82]

there was just a news report about Heroin and some dealers selling some super strong mixture that was killing people. It was on last week IIRC

wonder if thats what got him

They are surmising it was fentanyl-spiked heroin and there is apparently a video of him at an ATM buying something from two guys with messenger bags.

 

[clamum]

another ATOT thread about drugs where only a handful of people understand addiction. Color me surprised.

Yeah, me too. I guess you can't blame everyone for not knowing anything about it if they have no experience (first hand or otherwise), but wishing death on someone who is an addict? Come on, that's pathetic. Some of the things that people on here call those with addiction problems are just ridiculous and terrible.

Anyway, back on topic, I was shocked when I first heard about Hoffman. Had no idea he struggled with addiction. RIP

 

[Chocu1a]

another ATOT thread about drugs where only a handful of people understand addiction. Color me surprised.

Then why don't you explain it.
Addiction is about selfishness. Not thinking about anything but your need to feed that emptiness. Show me one addict that put the needs & welfare of others above their desire to get high. I think lots of people here understand addiction. Not having sympathy for the addict. I feel for the family of the addict, but the actual user, not one bit.
Here is a talented person, who is at the top of his profession, winning awards & respect of his peers, with an obligation to the children he helped bring into this world. Flushing it all down the toilet for a fleeting high that will never fill the void they think they have. Disgusting.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Then why don't you explain it.
Addiction is about selfishness. Not thinking about anything but your need to feed that emptiness. Show me one addict that put the needs & welfare of others above their desire to get high. I think lots of people here understand addiction. Not having sympathy for the addict. I feel for the family of the addict, but the actual user, not one bit.
Here is a talented person, who is at the top of his profession, winning awards & respect of his peers, with an obligation to the children he helped bring into this world. Flushing it all down the toilet for a fleeting high that will never fill the void they think they have. Disgusting.

You are not wrong.

 

[zinfamous]

That's a shame. I should probably rewatch Love Lisa. That's the role I'll always remember him for.

It's a great one, and pretty difficult to watch.

When I first saw this thread title, and before any mention of heroin, I morbidly thought he had been found dead after huffing gasoline.

 

[zinfamous]

Ahh, ok, I haven't seem "Bernie," so it's hard for me to envision what you're talking about.

Bernie is pretty awesome and you should definitely check it out. I'm not sure I see Jack Black fully migrating to that level, but he certainly has some diverse chops.

I mean, a clown like Tom Hanks can go from slapstick to super serious at the midpoint of his career, somehow. :\

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yeah, me too. I guess you can't blame everyone for not knowing anything about it if they have no experience (first hand or otherwise), but wishing death on someone who is an addict? Come on, that's pathetic. Some of the things that people on here call those with addiction problems are just ridiculous and terrible.

Anyway, back on topic, I was shocked when I first heard about Hoffman. Had no idea he struggled with addiction. RIP

What I can't figure out are the fucking idiots going "oh noes he could've been Penguin in an overrated Nolan Batman film!". What. The. Fuck.

 

[Perknose]

I think lots of people here understand addiction.

You don't.

 

[SlickSnake]

Since I am not permitted to discuss my personal feelings on this tragedy here, I will simply post this link which vaguely covers my opinion from a UK perspective, instead.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/03/philip-seymour-hoffman-drugs-double-standard

 

[Chocu1a]

You don't.

You don't know what I know

 

[jhbball]

Then why don't you explain it.
Addiction is about selfishness. Not thinking about anything but your need to feed that emptiness. Show me one addict that put the needs & welfare of others above their desire to get high. I think lots of people here understand addiction. Not having sympathy for the addict. I feel for the family of the addict, but the actual user, not one bit.
Here is a talented person, who is at the top of his profession, winning awards & respect of his peers, with an obligation to the children he helped bring into this world. Flushing it all down the toilet for a fleeting high that will never fill the void they think they have. Disgusting.

Let me guess: you've never had a close family member or friend with an addiction problem?

 

[jhbball]

You don't know what I know

well, we know you don't jack about addiction.

 

[gscone]

Then why don't you explain it.
Addiction is about selfishness. Not thinking about anything but your need to feed that emptiness. Show me one addict that put the needs & welfare of others above their desire to get high. I think lots of people here understand addiction. Not having sympathy for the addict. I feel for the family of the addict, but the actual user, not one bit.
Here is a talented person, who is at the top of his profession, winning awards & respect of his peers, with an obligation to the children he helped bring into this world. Flushing it all down the toilet for a fleeting high that will never fill the void they think they have. Disgusting.

On the money!

 

[jhbball]

On the money!

oh, another simpleton.

 

[surfsatwerk]

well, we know you don't jack about addiction.

I'm curious about how you feel on the issue. I don't agree with everything he said. But the idea that an addict is a selfish creature isn't radical.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I'm surprised no one else has made the connection that he died on SuperBowl Sunday when it was being played in the very stadium that Jimmy Hoffman was buried in!


WEIRD!