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jhbball

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I'm curious about how you feel on the issue. I don't agree with everything he said. But the idea that an addict is a selfish creature isn't radical.

I don't disagree that an addiction can have selfish beginnings (taking the first hit for example). But making a blanket statement saying all serious addicts are 'just being selfish' is a myopic and ignorant view of the issue. Serious addiction takes 'choice' out of the equation; it becomes a physical and mental dependency. Commonly evidenced by people selling all of their possessions, stealing, doing whatever else to get that drug. It's a terrible thing to see, and I've seen up close.

And of course in this case, heroin is no joke. I've heard it described as 'God patting you on the head'. Not really a surprise that people come back for more after the first hit.
 

Perknose

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I'm surprised no one else has made the connection that he died on SuperBowl Sunday when it was being played in the very stadium that Jimmy Hoffman [sic] was buried in!


WEIRD!

Hoffa. Jimmy Hoffa. However, two teams met there Sunday, one got buried, and Hoffa was prez of the Teamsters, so . . . :hmm:
 

surfsatwerk

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I don't disagree that an addiction can have selfish beginnings (taking the first hit for example). But making a blanket statement saying all serious addicts are 'just being selfish' is a myopic and ignorant view of the issue. Serious addiction takes 'choice' out of the equation; it becomes a physical and mental dependency. Commonly evidenced by people selling all of their possessions, stealing, doing whatever else to get that drug. It's a terrible thing to see, and I've seen up close.

And of course in this case, heroin is no joke. I've heard it described as 'God patting you on the head'. Not really a surprise that people come back for more after the first hit.

Seems reasonable.
 

poopaskoopa

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What does this mean for my Hunger Games sequel??? Are they going to do what the Wachowskis had to do with The Oracle in The Matrix Revolutions?
 

Oyeve

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What does this mean for my Hunger Games sequel??? Are they going to do what the Wachowskis had to do with The Oracle in The Matrix Revolutions?

Whats really sad about his death is that he will be remembered for those stupid ass movies.
 

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Hugo Drax

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With his net worth why not hire a drug assistant with narcan etc.. In the event of an emergency the drug assistant will immediately shoot him up with naloxone.
 

rudeguy

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With his net worth why not hire a drug assistant with narcan etc.. In the event of an emergency the drug assistant will immediately shoot him up with naloxone.



Imagine if you really liked to jaywalk. It gave you a bit of a thrill but after a while it was just part of life. Sure you would almost get hit by a car every so often, but you never got hurt. Would you hire a crossing guard? No.

Addiction is not logical. It also comes with great shame. You know you need to stop. You want to stop. But just the thought of going through with it scares you like nothing before.
 

WackyDan

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Not to recycle a MEME that is circulating on social media... but fuck it, I will!

He wants to ban firearms, but dies from using a banned substance. Poetic.
 

Tango

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Whats really sad about his death is that he will be remembered for those stupid ass movies.

Naaah. He's going to be remembered as the stunning artist he was, one of the most outstandingly talented and polyhedric of his generation, capable of immortal performances both on film and on stage.
 

KeithTalent

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Ahh, ok, I haven't seem "Bernie," so it's hard for me to envision what you're talking about.

Bernie is awesome, you should see it. Directed by Richard Linklater so you can watch it for that reason if Jack Black is scaring you off.

KT
 

who?

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Addiction is believed to be caused by the brain adapting to a substance so well that it just HAS to have the stuff.

I thought Hoffa was made into sausage.
 
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