Phone manufacturers should go more into the removable battery route.

[T_Yamamoto]

Phones with nonremovable batteries are thinner, and thinner the better (to the average consumer)

 

[kyrax12]

Phones with nonremovable batteries are thinner, and thinner the better (to the average consumer)

I guessed Samsung proved that wrong.

 

[openwheel]

I've stopped using extra batteries since 2012.
I can't figure out why people still "must" have swappable batteries. It's not that difficult to manage battery usage, and I have unlimited data to burn, yet I don't ever need to swap to another battery. Additionally, it's such a hassle to carry another battery and keeping that battery charged.

 

[beginner99]

Phones with nonremovable batteries are thinner, and thinner the better (to the average consumer)

exactly. makes it easier to design the phone too.

In the end one needs to decide which feature is the most important in a huge list and decide on that. While I would have preferred a removable battery I also wanted a phone with a very good total size to screen size ratio while being slim and light. It's a compromise....well not really that much because I'm not a heavy user. Just dumb if the battery starts failing early.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Phones with nonremovable batteries are thinner, and thinner the better (to the average consumer)

Can't say the phone will be thin should the battery swell and need replacement. Owait. :sneaky:

(personal experience btw)

 

[Dari]

Name a current smartphone in the market that has top of the line flaghship specs that don't cost more than $600.

Go ahead.

We've already discussed this in the other thread. I suggested the Optimus G Pro. It has top of the line specs, removable battery, large screen, mSD and is $440 off contract.

 

[apathy_next2]

While we are on the topic of battery life, does leaving your phone on charge all night screw up the battery? Would that be recommended for a phone like HTC ONE

 

[ChronoReverse]

Phones with nonremovable batteries are thinner, and thinner the better (to the average consumer)

In the end one needs to decide which feature is the most important in a huge list and decide on that. While I would have preferred a removable battery I also wanted a phone with a very good total size to screen size ratio while being slim and light. It's a compromise....well not really that much because I'm not a heavy user. Just dumb if the battery starts failing early.

Gee whiz. It's really too bad then that the current flagship phone that is the Lightest, Thinnest, has the best Total Size to Screen Size Ratio along with the largest size Battery Capacity happens to be the one with the removable battery AND removable storage to boot.

But we'll keep on parroting without looking at reality. I dislike Samsung as a company but they phones tick all the checkboxes I look at in a phone.

 

[cmdrdredd]

While we are on the topic of battery life, does leaving your phone on charge all night screw up the battery? Would that be recommended for a phone like HTC ONE

How much is all the time? If you charge it every night then no I don't think so. If you plug it in at every single opportunity even when it is only down to 80% then maybe over the long tern it can shorten battery life. They are supposed to stop charging when full but I don't know if they trickle charge or something at that point.

For me I plug it in every night but only charge it during the day when it is down to the point that I get a warning about low battery.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I've stopped using extra batteries since 2012.
I can't figure out why people still "must" have swappable batteries. It's not that difficult to manage battery usage, and I have unlimited data to burn, yet I don't ever need to swap to another battery. Additionally, it's such a hassle to carry another battery and keeping that battery charged.

That is why I like Samsung's setup. For Galaxy devices you can get charger and battery for barely more than battery.

I never ever charge my phone directly. When it gets low, I go to my external charger and flip them. That means I am never tethered to a charger trying to use my phone ever.

Smartphone battery life is never enough. Even with a Razor Max if I went to a wedding and tried to watch a football game via flash its dead halfway through the reception. Flip a battery and I miss none of the action ( well I miss whatever a reboot takes).

 

[MrX8503]

I don't like carrying batteries, so it doesn't bother me that its non removable.

 

[kyrax12]

Gee whiz. It's really too bad then that the current flagship phone that is the Lightest, Thinnest, has the best Total Size to Screen Size Ratio along with the largest size Battery Capacity happens to be the one with the removable battery AND removable storage to boot.

But we'll keep on parroting without looking at reality. I dislike Samsung as a company but they phones tick all the checkboxes I look at in a phone.

How come?

 

[zerocool84]

While we are on the topic of battery life, does leaving your phone on charge all night screw up the battery? Would that be recommended for a phone like HTC ONE

No, not with the recent battery technology we have.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Gee whiz. It's really too bad then that the current flagship phone that is the Lightest, Thinnest, has the best Total Size to Screen Size Ratio along with the largest size Battery Capacity happens to be the one with the removable battery AND removable storage to boot.

But we'll keep on parroting without looking at reality. I dislike Samsung as a company but they phones tick all the checkboxes I look at in a phone.

I was just making a general statement...

 

[deadken]

I used to consider not having a removable battery a con. Recently I bought a Nexus 4 (6 weeks before the $100 price drop) and I really don't care about the battery anymore. I know I can change the battery if needed (probably a 20-30 minute procedure). I thought I needed an easily removable battery to do a 'hard reset' when the phone would freeze. Now, I realize that having a clean OS has kept me from having to 'reset' the phone in over 2 months.

I was a little concerned about the lack of removable storage also, but now, not so much. I realized that with my old phone I hadn't filled the 4GB card in 2+ years of use. Yes, I'd periodically remove photos and videos, but I never found myself doing that often. When I complained to the woman at the T-Mobile store that my 16GB phone only had 13GB of room, she told me that a new 16GB G4 only has 9+GB of room. Sheesh... I can't complain about that anymore....

 

[openwheel]

exactly.

also, wouldn't people want to simply carry a power pack, rather than battery charger and extra batteries?

I can't even remember the last time my Android phone froze and required a battery pull. That's so 2011....

 

[dawheat]

Not to wade into the removable battery discussion, but battery life is still an issue and really needs to be the top priority of OEMs going forward as other aspects (screen, SOC, etc) have gotten so good.

My wife and I attended the US Open yesterday - heading over to Flushing after lunch, hanging out there before going to the USTA center until about 11:00pm. Due to the long day, we were sure to have our phones topped off in the morning (iPhone 5 and Note 2).

After constant but not especially heavy use (mostly maps, yelp, and browser), my wife's phone was dead at about 10pm and my Note 2 was down to about 20% by the end of the night. No games, no movies, no streaming music, navigation etc. With the Note 2 having some of the best battery life in the Andriod arena, I imagine most other flagship phones would have died about the same time as my wife's phone.

Besides having competitive specs, having great battery life has to be the next big thing.

 

[WelshBloke]

exactly.

also, wouldn't people want to simply carry a power pack, rather than battery charger and extra batteries?

I can't even remember the last time my Android phone froze and required a battery pull. That's so 2011....

I carry a battery pack if needed but a spare battery is less than a quarter the size.

 

[ChronoReverse]

I carry a battery pack if needed but a spare battery is less than a quarter the size.

Indeed.

I find it hilarious that a person can say with a straight face that being able to use a power pack is an advantage of a non-removable battery as if the option doesn't exist for a phone with one.

Have we really gotten to the point where people actually argue against having options? Especially when there aren't necessarily compromises to have these options?

 

[MrX8503]

Why are people pulling batteries when the phone freezes? Lol. Is there not a hard reset combo button?

 

[ChronoReverse]

Why are people pulling batteries when the phone freezes? Lol. Is there not a hard reset combo button?

That's true, even phones with removable batteries have a hard reset button combo. I certainly never pull my battery if I do something crazy that hard freezes my phone.

 

[Dari]

Indeed.

I find it hilarious that a person can say with a straight face that being able to use a power pack is an advantage of a non-removable battery as if the option doesn't exist for a phone with one.

Have we really gotten to the point where people actually argue against having options? Especially when there aren't necessarily compromises to have these options?

The battery pack allows you to charge your phone, tablet, as well as those of others...

 

[openwheel]

I carry a battery pack if needed but a spare battery is less than a quarter the size.

You still need a dedicated charger for the spare battery. Can't charge a battery with just a cord. Imho still better to carry battery pack instead of spare battery. You have to pull the battery and stop all calls and communication while you do so. Carrying spare battery, like I said is so 2011.

 

[MotionMan]

The battery pack allows you to charge your phone, tablet, as well as those of others...

Good point.

MotionMan

 

[kyrax12]

You still need a dedicated charger for the spare battery. Can't charge a battery with just a cord. Imho still better to carry battery pack instead of spare battery. You have to pull the battery and stop all calls and communication while you do so. Carrying spare battery, like I said is so 2011.

ER I usually switch the batteries when the phone run out of juice. Not when I am in the middle of doing something..

Don't see how that is really an issue. A dedicated charger can get pretty big. A spare battery is lightweight and also quite efficient to carry.

Thought I can also buy a dedicated charger for the S4. I am just highlighting that phones with removable battery can last a lot longer than phones with non-removable batteries.