Photo Tour of Iran

[SandEagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkkt7_dGW-s

I was expecting more sand

EDIT: awesome video on Iranian architecture, cities, and ways of life:
thanks El Fenix!

http://www.hulu.com/watch/9407...%80%99-iran#s-p1-st-i1

 

[ElFenix]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/9407...%80%99-iran#s-p1-st-i1

 

[SandEagle]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.hulu.com/watch/9407...%80%99-iran#s-p1-st-i1

wow, that's insane how they can flow traffic with no lights ! i'm sure the majority of Americans think its an uncivilized population living in huts and riding camels when they think Iran.

thanks for this video, very interesting to watch!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: SandEagle

Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.hulu.com/watch/9407...%80%99-iran#s-p1-st-i1

wow, that's insane how they can flow traffic with no lights ! i'm sure the majority of Americans think of an uncivilized population living in huts and riding camels when they think Iran.

thanks for this video, very interesting to watch!

it's in my queue, haven't been able to watch it yet

 

[rivan]

I think that, on the whole, most people can get along just fine. The average Iranian would probably be no harder to live next door to than the average, say, Texan.

Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

The trouble comes, however, when certain people decide others can't live their lives in peace, for whatever reason. Sometimes people want to impose their will because they mean well ('I'll save their eternal Soul!' or 'I'll bring them a different form of government even though they didn't ask!'), sometimes it's because they're fearful that a different way of life might threaten their own status quo, sometimes they're just greedy. Sometimes it's a combination of those things. Sometimes it's one of those things in the guise of another.

At that point, the leaders of one group use one or more of those same motivations to mobilize their group against another. Sometimes it's religious factions, sometimes governments, sometimes political groups.

Iran's been demonized, using our fears of losing liberties under Muslim law, just like the USSR was demonized using our fears of losing capitalism (and our wealth). I'd agree the people in power there are absolute whacks and I wouldn't want to live under their rule, but I fail to see why we're in any danger of doing so. That doesn't mean that, underneath all the politics and rhetoric, the average Russian dude, the average Chinese, or the average Iranian would make a bad neighbor. Just like I'm not such a bad guy, even though I had a president for 8 years who I strongly disagreed with politically.

 

[Nebor]

There are no McDonalds in Iran! Hopefully we can help them towards a more civilized way of life when we get a new (R) President.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: rivan
I think that, on the whole, most people can get along just fine. The average Iranian would probably be no harder to live next door to than the average, say, Texan.

Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

this is a good point. national geographic did a very good piecelast year on "normal" iranians or some such and it was pretty interesting. i think this is it

12 pretty short pages, i think it was a 3 or 4 page article in the magazine and im not sure if they reprint to the web word for word or edit much out, but it should be a good read for the interested.

 

[sandorski]

No different than living next to a Texan? Fuck, nuke em now! I'm sure in the confusion we could explain why some of those nukes landed on Texas as well.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Who said I was talking about Muslims? Iran's got more religions than just that one, just like we're not 100% Catholic here.

Originally posted by: sandorski
No different than living next to a Texan? Fuck, nuke em now! I'm sure in the confusion we could explain why some of those nukes landed on Texas as well.

:laugh: Maybe Texans weren't the best example of someone easy to live next to :laugh:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Who said I was talking about Muslims? Iran's got more religions than just that one, just like we're not 100% Catholic here.

Originally posted by: sandorski
No different than living next to a Texan? Fuck, nuke em now! I'm sure in the confusion we could explain why some of those nukes landed on Texas as well.

:laugh: Maybe Texans weren't the best example of someone easy to live next to :laugh:

:laugh:

My best friend just married an Iranian. They are good people. Their music is pretty good too, kinda like our Dance Club music, I was surprised by that. Not that I'm into Club Music, but it seemed very familiar nonetheless.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Who said I was talking about Muslims? Iran's got more religions than just that one, just like we're not 100% Catholic here.

Originally posted by: sandorski
No different than living next to a Texan? Fuck, nuke em now! I'm sure in the confusion we could explain why some of those nukes landed on Texas as well.

:laugh: Maybe Texans weren't the best example of someone easy to live next to :laugh:

Yeah, it's gotta be hard always living in a shadow. :laugh:

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Muslims reject Christ as the Son of God, and Christians believe that he was God. When Christians pray to their god, the pray as if to the Father, Son (Christ), and Holy Ghost: the Trinity. Muslims bow only to Allah, who is the only god and certainly not equal with any man. Christ, to them, was only a great prophet.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Which is pretty funny considering that they pray for him to kill Christians and Jews.

 

[Gulzakar]

So they worship the same god

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Which is pretty funny considering that they pray for him to kill Christians and Jews.

Do you really think that the average Muslim is that radical?

Perhaps I'm naive, but I certainly don't.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Muslims reject Christ as the Son of God, and Christians believe that he was God. When Christians pray to their god, the pray as if to the Father, Son (Christ), and Holy Ghost: the Trinity. Muslims bow only to Allah, who is the only god and certainly not equal with any man. Christ, to them, was only a great prophet.

I guess if you're using God as a synonym for the Trinity, then Christians and Muslims don't worship the same God. However, if that's the case, then Jews and Christians don't worship the same God either. Muslims claim they worship the same God as Christians and Jews though. Personally, I think the Trinity (a non-scriptural concept) is veiled polytheism.

As an aside, I think of Islam as like a Judaism 2.0 of sorts, and Christianity as some sort of perverse offshoot.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: rivan
Sure, they might eat different stuff, or pray to a different God, but when it comes down to it, they're generally no different than anyone else.

Muslims pray to the same God as Christians and Jews.

Muslims reject Christ as the Son of God, and Christians believe that he was God. When Christians pray to their god, the pray as if to the Father, Son (Christ), and Holy Ghost: the Trinity. Muslims bow only to Allah, who is the only god and certainly not equal with any man. Christ, to them, was only a great prophet.

I guess if you're using God as a synonym for the Trinity, then Christians and Muslims don't worship the same God. However, if that's the case, then Jews and Christians don't worship the same God either. Muslims claim they worship the same God as Christians and Jews though. Personally, I think the Trinity (a non-scriptural concept) is veiled polytheism.

As an aside, I think of Islam as like a Judaism 2.0 of sorts, and Christianity as some sort of perverse offshoot.

Edit: Also, "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians use that name as well.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: SandEagle

Originally posted by: ElFenix
http://www.hulu.com/watch/9407...%80%99-iran#s-p1-st-i1

wow, that's insane how they can flow traffic with no lights ! i'm sure the majority of Americans think its an uncivilized population living in huts and riding camels when they think Iran.

thanks for this video, very interesting to watch!

People's brains work FAR MORE EFFICIENTLY without rules.

Lines, lights, signs, speed limits, etc. make drivers lazy. They cause accidents and VASTLY slow traffic down.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow totally not what I expected. I did not figure they had sky scrapers and, even electricity or modern cars. I would never have expected to see sporting events too, figured they were busy doing whatever it is most terrorists do, but guess they're not ALL terrorists, and it's easy to forget that. The media makes us think they're all evil.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Wow totally not what I expected. I did not figure they had sky scrapers and, even electricity or modern cars. I would never have expected to see sporting events too, figured they were busy doing whatever it is most terrorists do, but guess they're not ALL terrorists, and it's easy to forget that. The media makes us think they're all evil.

I'd be shocked if 1% of them comes close to fitting that stereotype.

Think about the average American versus the average American on TV. We're not all Larry Rice, or Slim Shady, or Tila Tequila. And those idiots are the ones we're televising without an agenda. Imagine how we're depicted by those who want to demonize us.

 

[JeepinEd]

I would be curious to see what the female Tennis players wear.

 

[mrkun]

There's a series that's better I think called Inside Iran with Rageh Omar. It used to be on Youtube, but it looks like most of the videos are no longer up.

 

[FelixDeCat]

In related news.....Al Queda is secretly supporting the 9-11 truthers movement.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
In related news.....Al Queda is secretly supporting the 9-11 truthers movement.

I'll Truth for them if I can get some of that Persian chicken up inz.