Photographers - need help buying Rebel XT stuff

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Kaido
Any recommended reading materials to get up on dSLR?

Try these...

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[JinLien]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
First thing I bought for my EOS-20D was a leather strap. Nothing like a strap that says "Canon EOS Digital" to tell the thieves who to steal from! The Canon strap never came out of the box.

LOL

First thing I did for my 3 month trek in South East Asian 14 years ago was getting an old weathered wooden suit case & foamy for my photography gears.

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: Staples
I have that Tamron lens. It was the first lens I bought. I know know that nothing is more of a pain in the ass than switching out lenses.

My advice: Get a lens with a better range.

wow you are a wussy bish....changing lenses is easy plus you get better quality and speed out of prime lenses

You are truly a moron. Obviously you've never missed a shot while trying to change lenses, dropped a lens in a hurry, shot in sandy/dusty/rainy conditions, or done anything else to merit taking you seriously. Just shut up.

yea because I do portrait and fashion shoots its hard for me to miss the model doing something when im telling them how to pose. I have shot in rainy/dusty/snowy conditions but for that I use an old film pentax its much easier to clean. Honestly a rebel XT or any of the other low end pro-sumers are not going to hold up much in dust or rain anyway because they aren't weather sealed....even if you do use a zoom.

and if anyone was going to buy a decent zoom it wouldn't be one of these sh!t-tacular tamrons or kit lenses it would something like the 70-200 canon IS or nikkor VR
or canon 17-40 L

If you really really wanted to shoot in ****** conditions and not have any issues you'd be shooting leica or a high end pro SLR both of which will cost you a minimum of around 4 grand

thanks for playing come back again

edit: Also, Im sure you've never missed a shot becuase you can't really shoot lowlight with zooms that only go down to f/3.5 or f/5.6.....well you could up the ISO and then get horrible grain but Im sure quality isn't a concern either.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: montanafan
I can confirm the bolded part. I have the Digital Rebel and didn't find out about the focusing problems until after I'd experienced them a few times and did a little research after the fact.

wow, that might explain a bit w/ my sigma. I never knew this.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: Staples
I have that Tamron lens. It was the first lens I bought. I know know that nothing is more of a pain in the ass than switching out lenses.

My advice: Get a lens with a better range.

wow you are a wussy bish....changing lenses is easy plus you get better quality and speed out of prime lenses

You are truly a moron. Obviously you've never missed a shot while trying to change lenses, dropped a lens in a hurry, shot in sandy/dusty/rainy conditions, or done anything else to merit taking you seriously. Just shut up.

yea because I do portrait and fashion shoots its hard for me to miss the model doing something when im telling them how to pose. I have shot in rainy/dusty/snowy conditions but for that I use an old film pentax its much easier to clean. Honestly a rebel XT or any of the other low end pro-sumers are not going to hold up much in dust or rain anyway because they aren't weather sealed....even if you do use a zoom.

and if anyone was going to buy a decent zoom it wouldn't be one of these sh!t-tacular tamrons or kit lenses it would something like the 70-200 canon IS or nikkor VR
or canon 17-40 L

If you really really wanted to shoot in ****** conditions and not have any issues you'd be shooting leica or a high end pro SLR both of which will cost you a minimum of around 4 grand

thanks for playing come back again

edit: Also, Im sure you've never missed a shot becuase you can't really shoot lowlight with zooms that only go down to f/3.5 or f/5.6.....well you could up the ISO and then get horrible grain but Im sure quality isn't a concern either.

Rain would be overkill for the XT, but not dust. I've shot in dusty conditions often with mine, even though it's not a pro body. You blathered on, but didn't explain why not wanting to change lenses makes someone a "wussy bish".

Your edit doesn't make any sense. English 101 may be in order.

Back to your basement "studio" to take pictures of your gap-toothed girlfriend.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Kaido
Any recommended reading materials to get up on dSLR?

Try these...

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Awesome, thanks! Been reading through them, I appreciate the links!

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: Staples
I have that Tamron lens. It was the first lens I bought. I know know that nothing is more of a pain in the ass than switching out lenses.

My advice: Get a lens with a better range.

wow you are a wussy bish....changing lenses is easy plus you get better quality and speed out of prime lenses

You are truly a moron. Obviously you've never missed a shot while trying to change lenses, dropped a lens in a hurry, shot in sandy/dusty/rainy conditions, or done anything else to merit taking you seriously. Just shut up.

yea because I do portrait and fashion shoots its hard for me to miss the model doing something when im telling them how to pose. I have shot in rainy/dusty/snowy conditions but for that I use an old film pentax its much easier to clean. Honestly a rebel XT or any of the other low end pro-sumers are not going to hold up much in dust or rain anyway because they aren't weather sealed....even if you do use a zoom.

and if anyone was going to buy a decent zoom it wouldn't be one of these sh!t-tacular tamrons or kit lenses it would something like the 70-200 canon IS or nikkor VR
or canon 17-40 L

If you really really wanted to shoot in ****** conditions and not have any issues you'd be shooting leica or a high end pro SLR both of which will cost you a minimum of around 4 grand

thanks for playing come back again

edit: Also, Im sure you've never missed a shot becuase you can't really shoot lowlight with zooms that only go down to f/3.5 or f/5.6.....well you could up the ISO and then get horrible grain but Im sure quality isn't a concern either.

Rain would be overkill for the XT, but not dust. I've shot in dusty conditions often with mine, even though it's not a pro body. You blathered on, but didn't explain why not wanting to change lenses makes someone a "wussy bish".

Your edit doesn't make any sense. English 101 may be in order.

Back to your basement "studio" to take pictures of your gap-toothed girlfriend.

...because complaining thats its too difficult to change a lens on a SLR is ridiculous. The point of an SLR is to have full control over the camera including the ability to change lenses.

I also think it makes someone a "wussy bish" because I have never heard anyone who is serious about photography complain about changing lenses on something as simple as a XT. The situations that arise that require someone to not change a lens or might make it dangerous to change a lens are few and far between....unless you exclusively shoot dirt bike races in the desert or take pictures of the monsoon season.

and try going out to....Burning Man and you might have some problems with dust or Moab

Maybe you didn't understand my edit because you don't know what an f-stop is or maybe you've never tried shooting in low light with a zoom that only goes down to f/3.5 on a DSLR at iso 100. There is also the use of sarcasm...maybe you just didn't get that either or don't understand what happens when you increase the ISO on a DSLR.

If I need to take english lessons because you couldn't understand....maybe you also need to go read dpreview and learn some photography concepts.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: Staples
I have that Tamron lens. It was the first lens I bought. I know know that nothing is more of a pain in the ass than switching out lenses.

My advice: Get a lens with a better range.

wow you are a wussy bish....changing lenses is easy plus you get better quality and speed out of prime lenses

You are truly a moron. Obviously you've never missed a shot while trying to change lenses, dropped a lens in a hurry, shot in sandy/dusty/rainy conditions, or done anything else to merit taking you seriously. Just shut up.

yea because I do portrait and fashion shoots its hard for me to miss the model doing something when im telling them how to pose. I have shot in rainy/dusty/snowy conditions but for that I use an old film pentax its much easier to clean. Honestly a rebel XT or any of the other low end pro-sumers are not going to hold up much in dust or rain anyway because they aren't weather sealed....even if you do use a zoom.

and if anyone was going to buy a decent zoom it wouldn't be one of these sh!t-tacular tamrons or kit lenses it would something like the 70-200 canon IS or nikkor VR
or canon 17-40 L

If you really really wanted to shoot in ****** conditions and not have any issues you'd be shooting leica or a high end pro SLR both of which will cost you a minimum of around 4 grand

thanks for playing come back again

edit: Also, Im sure you've never missed a shot becuase you can't really shoot lowlight with zooms that only go down to f/3.5 or f/5.6.....well you could up the ISO and then get horrible grain but Im sure quality isn't a concern either.

Rain would be overkill for the XT, but not dust. I've shot in dusty conditions often with mine, even though it's not a pro body. You blathered on, but didn't explain why not wanting to change lenses makes someone a "wussy bish".

Your edit doesn't make any sense. English 101 may be in order.

Back to your basement "studio" to take pictures of your gap-toothed girlfriend.

...because complaining thats its too difficult to change a lens on a SLR is ridiculous. The point of an SLR is to have full control over the camera including the ability to change lenses.

I also think it makes someone a "wussy bish" because I have never heard anyone who is serious about photography complain about changing lenses on something as simple as a XT. The situations that arise that require someone to not change a lens or might make it dangerous to change a lens are few and far between....unless you exclusively shoot dirt bike races in the desert or take pictures of the monsoon season.

and try going out to....Burning Man and you might have some problems with dust or Moab

Maybe you didn't understand my edit because you don't know what an f-stop is or maybe you've never tried shooting in low light with a zoom that only goes down to f/3.5 on a DSLR at iso 100. There is also the use of sarcasm...maybe you just didn't get that either or don't understand what happens when you increase the ISO on a DSLR.

If I need to take english lessons because you couldn't understand....maybe you also need to go read dpreview and learn some photography concepts.

The fact that you say these things means that you've never shot an event such as a wedding, press conference, etc.; I have. The fact that you can't understand why anyone would need not to change lenses means you don't have much experience, AND that you're pushing your opinions on people in an offensive way. Of course I know what an f/stop is (it's not correctly written "f-stop", genius) but it's beside the point. Your failure to realize that one can miss a shot due to 1) dust or other weather conditions or 2) timing issues while changing lenses means that you have next to zero actual shooting experience.

Oh, and try shooting night or indoor sports with just one body, changing lenses. There's no way you can win this. All your talk of Leica etc. is designed to make you look knowledgeable, when in reality it makes you look more stupid-- as if Leica were a big name in SLRs. LOL

English lessons are still in order for you. Once you get past grammar and syntax, you still need to learn how to communicate effectively. Your desperation to attack people on an online forum for showing more knowledge than you just makes you look pathetic and stupid.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

 

[JinLien]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

Which normal lens to get for Nikon D70? -- 35mm SLR camera & DSLR normal lens explain.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: JinLien

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

Which normal lens to get for Nikon D70? -- 35mm SLR camera & DSLR normal lens explain.

Wow, it's pretty crazy that anyone would recommend a 50mm prime as a normal lens for the D70.

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

Originally posted by: 6000SUX
The fact that you say these things means that you've never shot an event such as a wedding, press conference, etc.; I have. The fact that you can't understand why anyone would need not to change lenses means you don't have much experience, AND that you're pushing your opinions on people in an offensive way. Of course I know what an f/stop is (it's not correctly written "f-stop", genius) but it's beside the point. Your failure to realize that one can miss a shot due to 1) dust or other weather conditions or 2) timing issues while changing lenses means that you have next to zero actual shooting experience.

Oh, and try shooting night or indoor sports with just one body, changing lenses. There's no way you can win this. All your talk of Leica etc. is designed to make you look knowledgeable, when in reality it makes you look more stupid-- as if Leica were a big name in SLRs. LOL

English lessons are still in order for you. Once you get past grammar and syntax, you still need to learn how to communicate effectively. Your desperation to attack people on an online forum for showing more knowledge than you just makes you look pathetic and stupid.

First off, you are assuming that everyone shoots fast paced events which a person would have no control over. In situations such as fashion, portrait, architectural and many others, professionals quite often use prime because of the quality. Yes, I understand if you are shooting something like a wedding then you will most likely be using a zoom.

My first comment(?wussy bish?) was initially meant half jokingly and half seriously. The way the person worded the statement about not wanting to change lenses sounded as if they just didn?t know how to or had trouble in doing so. I do a lot of night and indoor low light photography and I will usually just use a 50mm f/1.4 and/or a 35mm f/2.0.

Your desperation to attack people on an online forum for showing more knowledge than you just makes you look pathetic and stupid.

You are truly a moron.

Back to your basement "studio" to take pictures of your gap-toothed girlfriend.

So I'm assuming this is you being very cordial and nice?

Conversely I think you are being narrow minded about using primes. Yes there are uses for both zooms and primes. Zooms are not the end all answer to photography as you seem to be claiming them to be. The average person is not going to be doing sports, wedding photography, or any photography in extremely adverse conditions, such as dust and rain. I will also admit the average person will most likely not know or care about the differences in quality between a prime and a zoom.

As for the grammar and syntax, I can use it properly it?s just usually I don?t see a need for it because most people can still understand me with my lazy writing style.

FYI wikipedia uses f-stop and f/stop in its article on "F-numbers"
and dictionary.com also has f-stop as well as f/stop

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

Thanks, that really cleared it up for me :thumbsup:

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: JinLien

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

Which normal lens to get for Nikon D70? -- 35mm SLR camera & DSLR normal lens explain.

Wow, it's pretty crazy that anyone would recommend a 50mm prime as a normal lens for the D70.

even with the 1.6x crop factor it is still a normal lens. the wide angle and telephoto distortions are still there, you just get a smaller image.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: JinLien

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Kaido
So the "zoom" is the "mm" and the focus is with the ring on the end of the lens? I'm slowly getting there...my A75 doesn't have all these fancy features

the mm is just the focal length. 'zoom' is a type of lens that can change it's focal length over a pretty large range. focusing actually changes the length a small amount. for 35 mm lenses, 50mm is a normal focal length. that is, it's the equivalent of the focal length of your eye. anything smaller is considered wide (though you need in the 30s to go truly wide) and longer is considered telephoto.

because this camera has 1.6x crop factor, you basically get the middle 2/3 of the picture that a 35 mm camera would take.

Which normal lens to get for Nikon D70? -- 35mm SLR camera & DSLR normal lens explain.

Wow, it's pretty crazy that anyone would recommend a 50mm prime as a normal lens for the D70.

even with the 1.6x crop factor it is still a normal lens. the wide angle and telephoto distortions are still there, you just get a smaller image.

While I think 50mm is a good normal lens for even the 1.6x crop, distortion depends on distance from the subject, and not by the magnification of the lens.
I thought the same as you before, until this site explained to me how it works.

BTW.. PRIME LENS FTW!!!!!

 

[ElFenix]

so i just did the calculations and determined that even on dell's best day, after sales tax it only matches the price buydig.com has all the time.

so should i get rebel with kit lens and the 100mm f/2.8 macro or 100mm f/2.0
or the rebel with no kit lens and the 17-85mm IS
?

 

[randomlinh]

mmm... 100mm macro is niiiiice. but in your case, i'd lean more towards the 17-85 IS, much more versatility

 

[Kaido]

I forwarded all of the excellent information here to my sister-in-law, who will be purchasing one later this summer. Thank you all for the input!

Moving on, I was at Circuit City today and I played with the various cameras on display, including the Rebel XT. It felt really cramped in my hand! I was much more comfortable with the Nikon D70. I also tried out a Canon 30D and a few other brands; the Nikon felt the best. Is the D70 a pretty good camera?

 

[AUMM]

I'm looking at getting the Rebel XT as well, but I can't decide whether I should get the kit lens or not....I'm interested in doing mostly landscape and macro shots, but i dont want to spend more than 300-400 on a lens for now... any suggestions?

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: AUMM
I'm looking at getting the Rebel XT as well, but I can't decide whether I should get the kit lens or not....I'm interested in doing mostly landscape and macro shots, but i dont want to spend more than 300-400 on a lens for now... any suggestions?

Start a new thread instead of bringing back a 3 month old thread. This one missed the archive by 15 days...

 

[AUMM]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: AUMM
I'm looking at getting the Rebel XT as well, but I can't decide whether I should get the kit lens or not....I'm interested in doing mostly landscape and macro shots, but i dont want to spend more than 300-400 on a lens for now... any suggestions?

Start a new thread instead of bringing back a 3 month old thread. This one missed the archive by 15 days...

ahh oops, didnt realize it was that old....