Photos of Russian School Tradgedy

[Anubis]

why woudl you want to order prints of some of thoes ??????

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
all those pics are taken from an amateur? whao, I am suprised, how you define "amateur" and "professional" anyways?

amature my ass, this person knew what the fusk they were dooing with a camera

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Anubis
why woudl you want to order prints of some of thoes ??????

that was the first thing i saw too... but then again all picture hosting sites do that no matter what kind of pictures are uploaded

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: alexeikgb

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Well, you have to understand that most of the terrorists involved in these incidents didn't walk into it thinking they'd make it out alive anyhow. I mean, when you do anything to gain the attention of the media, it's going to get ugly when the military or local enforcement gets involved. All of the sudden, the terrorists no longer have anything to lose... They can clearly see out the windows and see that it's a die/die situation. I wouldn't blame the response teams....I'd blame the political systems for not addressing the Chechnyans in a way that makes them want to disarm. Maybe it can't be done...they've been kicked out of their homeland like the Palestinians.

Why blame anybody other than the terrorists who committed these acts? Killing a bunch of defenseless children, IMO, is cause to render your grievances null and void. To believe otherwise, is to lend a sense of legitimacy to these despicable acts.

Despicable acts. The russians started killing Chechen children first, now they are recieving blowback from those nasty nasty atrocities.

HUH... where does the article say anything about Russians killing children....
Those who were killed were mostlikely Chechen rebels, and they got what they deserve.

Got what they deserved? For what? Defending their country from foreign invaders? Get a grip.

THOUSANDS of chechen children have been killed by the russian monsters. Here is one of many many many incidents.

You don't defend a country by attacking a school you fvcking slimeball. Get a grip.

 

[alexeikgb]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: alexeikgb

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Well, you have to understand that most of the terrorists involved in these incidents didn't walk into it thinking they'd make it out alive anyhow. I mean, when you do anything to gain the attention of the media, it's going to get ugly when the military or local enforcement gets involved. All of the sudden, the terrorists no longer have anything to lose... They can clearly see out the windows and see that it's a die/die situation. I wouldn't blame the response teams....I'd blame the political systems for not addressing the Chechnyans in a way that makes them want to disarm. Maybe it can't be done...they've been kicked out of their homeland like the Palestinians.

Why blame anybody other than the terrorists who committed these acts? Killing a bunch of defenseless children, IMO, is cause to render your grievances null and void. To believe otherwise, is to lend a sense of legitimacy to these despicable acts.

Despicable acts. The russians started killing Chechen children first, now they are recieving blowback from those nasty nasty atrocities.

HUH... where does the article say anything about Russians killing children....
Those who were killed were mostlikely Chechen rebels, and they got what they deserve.

Got what they deserved? For what? Defending their country from foreign invaders? Get a grip.

THOUSANDS of chechen children have been killed by the russian monsters. Here is one of many many many incidents.

YES... they got what they deserve.... they are not defending their country, since it's has been a part of Russia for a long time. What they are doing is trying to create their own country by force using terrorist acts of blowing up planes and killing school children.

Stop supporting the Chechen terrorists, I'm sure that you think Osama and his buddies were just "Defending their country from foreign invaders?"....

 

[Danman]

Jesus, these pictures are crazy. Unbelievable.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: alexeikgb

Originally posted by: preslove

Despicable acts. The russians started killing Chechen children first, now they are recieving blowback from those nasty nasty atrocities.

HUH... where does the article say anything about Russians killing children....
Those who were killed were mostlikely Chechen rebels, and they got what they deserve.

You would think the poster would take the time to actually read the article that he was linking but I guess not. Regardless, killing innocent children renders your grievances null and void. What about that is so hard to understand?

So the russian's grievences are null and void, right? They've killed over a hundred thousand Chechens and turned hundreds of thousands of people into refugees. Ethnic cleansing tends to turn turn people into monsters. So the chechens have adopted these terror techniques. They are reaping what has been sowed.

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On 31.10.1999 the main road linking Chechnya with Georgia, to the south was bombed and rendered impassable. Earlier some 2,500 refugees - all of them women, children and the very old - had used this route for their escape by dramatic marches on foot lasting many days over the high mountains to Shatili in Georgia. According to the Berlin-based German-Caucasian Society, they were bombed by the Russian air force as they were fleeing.

There are your defensless children.

 

[raildogg]

totally sick stuff, very sad ...

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: preslove
So the russian's grievences are null and void, right? They've killed over a hundred thousand Chechens and turned hundreds of thousands of people into refugees. Ethnic cleansing tends to turn turn people into monsters. So the chechens have adopted these terror techniques. They are reaping what has been sowed.

Text

On 31.10.1999 the main road linking Chechnya with Georgia, to the south was bombed and rendered impassable. Earlier some 2,500 refugees - all of them women, children and the very old - had used this route for their escape by dramatic marches on foot lasting many days over the high mountains to Shatili in Georgia. According to the Berlin-based German-Caucasian Society, they were bombed by the Russian air force as they were fleeing.

There are you're defensless children.

I think you have been through one too many hurricanes.

Explain how these incidents, in which innocent women and children may have been killed, gives someone the right to hold a school hostage, resulting in the deaths of 300+ innocents? What could they hope to possibly gain from this act? Sympathy? Again, the Chechens may have legitimate grievances but that does not give them the right to murder innocents. That you choose a thread, revolving around the death and destruction caused by these Chechen rebels, to defend the rebels is particularly disturbing. Why not pick your battles a little more carefully?

 

[rufruf44]

Regardless what the Russian did in the past, massacring children and infants is unacceptable. Its just like saying because Germany is responsible for the Holocaust, its acceptable for the Jews to start massacring German's children.

These 30-32 ppl miserable excuse of a human are nothing but a bunch of coward who choose to massacre innocent childrens. I hope they'll still be buried with pig skin covering them, thus nulifying them from going to heaven,etc (dunno if they're devout moslem or not though, so it might not matter).

 

[TheSiege]

he spelled SIEGE wrong and believe me i know

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: preslove
So the russian's grievences are null and void, right? They've killed over a hundred thousand Chechens and turned hundreds of thousands of people into refugees. Ethnic cleansing tends to turn turn people into monsters. So the chechens have adopted these terror techniques. They are reaping what has been sowed.

Text

On 31.10.1999 the main road linking Chechnya with Georgia, to the south was bombed and rendered impassable. Earlier some 2,500 refugees - all of them women, children and the very old - had used this route for their escape by dramatic marches on foot lasting many days over the high mountains to Shatili in Georgia. According to the Berlin-based German-Caucasian Society, they were bombed by the Russian air force as they were fleeing.

There are you're defensless children.

I think you have been through one too many hurricanes.

Explain how these incidents, in which innocent women and children may have been killed, gives someone the right to hold a school hostage, resulting in the deaths of 300+ innocents? What could they hope to possibly gain from this act? Sympathy? Again, the Chechens may have legitimate grievances but that does not give them the right to murder innocents. That you choose a thread, revolving around the death and destruction caused by these Chechen rebels, to defend the rebels is particularly disturbing. Why not pick your battles a little more carefully?

Had Putin not invaded in 1999, none of this would be happening. That's my point. Plus, people are trying to conflate this with our own war on terror, when they have little in common. People don't even know that Chechnya was an independent republic in 1999 and that Putin invaded, under false pretenses, to look tough and to consolidate his hold on the political leadership. This is merely cause and effect, and the Russians started the ball rolling.

russians leadership=chechen terrorists

 

[rufruf44]

Well then you could argue had those same Chechen not try to invade Dagestan and force their conquest and so called "unification" on its people, they would not have to suffer Putin's invasion and this time get pummeled to ruins by Russian forces as opposed of the 1994-96 campaigns.

 

[maddogchen]

heh we went from photos to politics

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: rufruf44
Well then you could argue had those same Chechen not try to invade Dagestan and force their conquest and so called "unification" on its people, they would not have to suffer Putin's invasion and this time get pummeled to ruins by Russian forces as opposed of the 1994-96 campaigns.

The Dagestan/Chechen rebels had nothing to do with Maskhadov's legitimate Chechen government. That was just used by Putin as an excuse to succeed where Yelstin had failed. Maskhadov actually was fighting the chechen rebels who moved into Dagestan.

 

[alexeikgb]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: preslove
So the russian's grievences are null and void, right? They've killed over a hundred thousand Chechens and turned hundreds of thousands of people into refugees. Ethnic cleansing tends to turn turn people into monsters. So the chechens have adopted these terror techniques. They are reaping what has been sowed.

Text

On 31.10.1999 the main road linking Chechnya with Georgia, to the south was bombed and rendered impassable. Earlier some 2,500 refugees - all of them women, children and the very old - had used this route for their escape by dramatic marches on foot lasting many days over the high mountains to Shatili in Georgia. According to the Berlin-based German-Caucasian Society, they were bombed by the Russian air force as they were fleeing.

There are you're defensless children.

I think you have been through one too many hurricanes.

Explain how these incidents, in which innocent women and children may have been killed, gives someone the right to hold a school hostage, resulting in the deaths of 300+ innocents? What could they hope to possibly gain from this act? Sympathy? Again, the Chechens may have legitimate grievances but that does not give them the right to murder innocents. That you choose a thread, revolving around the death and destruction caused by these Chechen rebels, to defend the rebels is particularly disturbing. Why not pick your battles a little more carefully?

Had Putin not invaded in 1999, none of this would be happening. That's my point. Plus, people are trying to conflate this with our own war on terror, when they have little in common. People don't even know that Chechnya was an independent republic in 1999 and that Putin invaded, under false pretenses, to look tough and to consolidate his hold on the political leadership. This is merely cause and effect, and the Russians started the ball rolling.

russians leadership=chechen terrorists

Get your facts straight before posting.... Chechya was never it's own republic not once since the collapse of the USSR. They tried to claim independance but were denied..... just because I say I'm my own independent republic doesn't mean it's so.

Quick summary of what happened in 99:

Terrorist bombs explode in Moscow and other Russian cities. Russian authorities blame Chechen paramilitary commanders. Chechen insurgents enter neighboring Russian territory of Dagestan to help Islamic fundamentalists seeking to create separate nation.

Russian troops recapture breakaway areas of Dagestan. Yeltsin sends nearly 100,000 Russian troops into Chechnya. Russians occupy much of Chechnya, pulverize Grozny, driving rebels into hills. 250,000 refugees.

Why don't you stop posting about things you don't know about.... thanks, and have a nice day...

 

[Lyfer]

I didn't even bother to look at em, but RIP for em.

 

[Aimster]

how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

 

[z0mb13]

omg such gruesome images...

why are the children naked?

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: Aimster
how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

:roll: I can't believe a person just said that. What the Chechens did at the school was wrong. And if a "Taiwanese Terrorist" attacked a school and killed children too, then thats wrong and their is absolutely NO justification for that.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: Aimster
how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

:roll: I can't believe a person just said that. What the Chechens did at the school was wrong. And if a "Taiwanese Terrorist" attacked a school and killed children too, then thats wrong and their is absolutely NO justification for that.

I wasnt talking about the people who attacked the school. Those are terrorist. Im talking about the people fighting for their country

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: rufruf44
Well then you could argue had those same Chechen not try to invade Dagestan and force their conquest and so called "unification" on its people, they would not have to suffer Putin's invasion and this time get pummeled to ruins by Russian forces as opposed of the 1994-96 campaigns.

The Dagestan/Chechen rebels had nothing to do with Maskhadov's legitimate Chechen government. That was just used by Putin as an excuse to succeed where Yelstin had failed. Maskhadov actually was fighting the chechen rebels who moved into Dagestan.

Fighting? Up till sometime in 2002, Basaev (who lead the insurgent to Dagestan) serves in Maskhadov so called shadow govt. Sure doesn't look like they're fighting.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: Aimster
how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

:roll: I can't believe a person just said that. What the Chechens did at the school was wrong. And if a "Taiwanese Terrorist" attacked a school and killed children too, then thats wrong and their is absolutely NO justification for that.

I wasnt talking about the people who attacked the school. Those are terrorist. Im talking about the people fighting for their country

If a county in Taiwan declared independence and start fighting the rest of the country and attack taiwanese military personel, what are you going to call them?

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: Aimster
how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

:roll: I can't believe a person just said that. What the Chechens did at the school was wrong. And if a "Taiwanese Terrorist" attacked a school and killed children too, then thats wrong and their is absolutely NO justification for that.

I wasnt talking about the people who attacked the school. Those are terrorist. Im talking about the people fighting for their country

oh why are we talking about that in this thread? Isn't it like this?

A separatist attacks Russian troops. A separatist plants a bomb to kill the Chechen president. A separatist shoots down a Russian helicopter filled with 100 troops.

A terrorist blows up a civilian plane. A terrorist blows up a subway packed with commuters. A terrorist blows up people going to a music concert.

 

[abaez]

You'd think the Russian Authorities/Police would have a clue how to handle situations like this. Anyone remember when those terrorists stormed the theatre a few years back? Russian police gassed the theatre and all but one of the hostages who was killed was killed by the gas. Then they didn't even want to give out info on what type of gas it was for treatment. That picture of the woman knocked out in the bus that was in Newsweek is one of the most powerful pictures of an extreme f up I've ever seen.