Photos of Russian School Tradgedy

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Aimster

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Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Aimster
how the hell is what they are doing terrorist when they defend their own country? I'm not talking about the russian school incident. I am talking about what goes on in their land.

it's the same deal as china-taiwan. China claims Taiwan is theirs and if they attack there will be Taiwanese "terrorist".

:roll: I can't believe a person just said that. What the Chechens did at the school was wrong. And if a "Taiwanese Terrorist" attacked a school and killed children too, then thats wrong and their is absolutely NO justification for that.

I wasnt talking about the people who attacked the school. Those are terrorist. Im talking about the people fighting for their country

If a county in Taiwan declared independence and start fighting the rest of the country and attack taiwanese military personel, what are you going to call them?

I thought Russia invaded and set up their puppet government after the current government's troops were defeated and thousands of civilians died at the hands of the Russians. Isn't that what happend? If not how did it go down.
 

rufruf44

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World-war II, Russian throw Chechen to central asia since they might be helping the Germans (needless to say Russian and Chechen dislike each other). Afterward, Chechen return to mother Russia and a republic (Chechnya) was formed under old Soviet Union. Early 90s, part of the republic declared independence, and in 94 full blown war started.
 

rufruf44

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Originally posted by: abaez
You'd think the Russian Authorities/Police would have a clue how to handle situations like this. Anyone remember when those terrorists stormed the theatre a few years back? Russian police gassed the theatre and all but one of the hostages who was killed was killed by the gas. Then they didn't even want to give out info on what type of gas it was for treatment. That picture of the woman knocked out in the bus that was in Newsweek is one of the most powerful pictures of an extreme f up I've ever seen.

I doubt even the best US Delta force can do any better given the situation. Its not a planned operation. Terrorist make a boo boo and detonates some bombs, some hostages began fleeing in the surrounding chaos, and terrorist start firing on them. What do you think the Russian Special Forces supposed to do? Stand there and doing nothing while hostages are dropping like flies? They do the best they can tor return fire to protect the fleeing hostage and then take out the terrorist before they can kill the rest of the hostages still inside the building.
 

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Originally posted by: alexeikgb
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: preslove
So the russian's grievences are null and void, right? They've killed over a hundred thousand Chechens and turned hundreds of thousands of people into refugees. Ethnic cleansing tends to turn turn people into monsters. So the chechens have adopted these terror techniques. They are reaping what has been sowed.

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On 31.10.1999 the main road linking Chechnya with Georgia, to the south was bombed and rendered impassable. Earlier some 2,500 refugees - all of them women, children and the very old - had used this route for their escape by dramatic marches on foot lasting many days over the high mountains to Shatili in Georgia. According to the Berlin-based German-Caucasian Society, they were bombed by the Russian air force as they were fleeing.

There are you're defensless children.

I think you have been through one too many hurricanes.

Explain how these incidents, in which innocent women and children may have been killed, gives someone the right to hold a school hostage, resulting in the deaths of 300+ innocents? What could they hope to possibly gain from this act? Sympathy? Again, the Chechens may have legitimate grievances but that does not give them the right to murder innocents. That you choose a thread, revolving around the death and destruction caused by these Chechen rebels, to defend the rebels is particularly disturbing. Why not pick your battles a little more carefully?

Had Putin not invaded in 1999, none of this would be happening. That's my point. Plus, people are trying to conflate this with our own war on terror, when they have little in common. People don't even know that Chechnya was an independent republic in 1999 and that Putin invaded, under false pretenses, to look tough and to consolidate his hold on the political leadership. This is merely cause and effect, and the Russians started the ball rolling.

russians leadership=chechen terrorists


Get your facts straight before posting.... Chechya was never it's own republic not once since the collapse of the USSR. They tried to claim independance but were denied..... just because I say I'm my own independent republic doesn't mean it's so.

Quick summary of what happened in 99:
Terrorist bombs explode in Moscow and other Russian cities. Russian authorities blame Chechen paramilitary commanders. Chechen insurgents enter neighboring Russian territory of Dagestan to help Islamic fundamentalists seeking to create separate nation.

Russian troops recapture breakaway areas of Dagestan. Yeltsin sends nearly 100,000 Russian troops into Chechnya. Russians occupy much of Chechnya, pulverize Grozny, driving rebels into hills. 250,000 refugees.


Why don't you stop posting about things you don't know about.... thanks, and have a nice day...
IMHO, the lost is a great one for all of us, because this is another mark that reassures us that our civilization hasn?t moved beyond the Dark Age?s mentality.

There must be some kind of grievant for the ?terrorists? to do such an in humane act.

Timeline of Key Events in Chechnya, 1830?2004

If Chechnya is not a republic of its own, then why does Stalin deported Chechens to Siberia?
 

Ricochet

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Seeing those images only makes more mad and at the same time deeply sad.


:brokenheart:
 
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