Photoshop experts: Can the leash be removed from the picture?

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Kadarin

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Originally posted by: fleabag
While that photochop looks good, the picture looks funny because of the collar on the dog looks like it's being tugged at yet there is nothing there to tug at it; I'd just retake the picture..

You're only noticing that because you saw the pic with the leash first, I suspect.
 

coldmeat

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Originally posted by: fleabag
While that photochop looks good, the picture looks funny because of the collar on the dog looks like it's being tugged at yet there is nothing there to tug at it; I'd just retake the picture..

Could just be a tight collar.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: NightDarker
Originally posted by: OdiN
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/OdiN/IMG_6404Edit.jpg

Sharpened and a bit of exposure adjust.

Definitely not digging this

Getting rid of the leach is done very well, but the rest of the adjustment makes it look poor.

Eh...it's a taste thing. I realize I killed some of the shadow detail.

Actually, I have a tendancy to adjust so something prints well, though on a monitor it's a bit different.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: NightDarker
For those of you who are interested, all I did was set the brush size to 300px, then use the Clone Stamp Tool to grab samples from the surrounding plants. I didn't drag the mouse at all, just grab and click. As you get closer to the dog, start using smaller brushes (150px, 75px, 40px). Granted, the flowers are now gone. However, they aren't the focal point of the photo so it worked pretty well -- the viewer will never know

Technique appreciated. I'll give this a shot on some of my other photos.
 

Descartes

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Thanks for the efforts and kind words everyone. I appreciate it.

Originally posted by: fleabag
While that photochop looks good, the picture looks funny because of the collar on the dog looks like it's being tugged at yet there is nothing there to tug at it; I'd just retake the picture..

I'll no doubt try to take some more photos, but I don't think anyone would really notice. I just liked the expression on her face and the light that was hitting her.
 

paulxcook

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Nice shot, and really good chop. Both of them, really, though I prefer the 1st. Rubycon's is good too, I like the warmth. I didn't notice the blueness of the first two until I saw that one. Regardless, it's more than I could've done. I saw the in-focus leash and the out-of-focus background and didn't even bother.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: fleabag
While that photochop looks good, the picture looks funny because of the collar on the dog looks like it's being tugged at yet there is nothing there to tug at it; I'd just retake the picture..

You're only noticing that because you saw the pic with the leash first, I suspect.
nope, i saw the same.

edit- nice work anyway
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: NightDarker
Originally posted by: OdiN
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/OdiN/IMG_6404Edit.jpg

Sharpened and a bit of exposure adjust.

Definitely not digging this

Getting rid of the leach is done very well, but the rest of the adjustment makes it look poor.

Eh...it's a taste thing. I realize I killed some of the shadow detail.

Actually, I have a tendancy to adjust so something prints well, though on a monitor it's a bit different.

OOKAY
 

Blunc

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I think if you didn't know there was a leash there you wouldn't have noted it, all of the foliage is out of focus and random shapes. I suppose I could spend more than 15 minutes on it to adjust what you're noticing but I don't feel like it's necessary.
 

dugweb

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: NightDarker
Originally posted by: OdiN
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/OdiN/IMG_6404Edit.jpg

Sharpened and a bit of exposure adjust.

Definitely not digging this

Getting rid of the leach is done very well, but the rest of the adjustment makes it look poor.

Eh...it's a taste thing. I realize I killed some of the shadow detail.

Actually, I have a tendancy to adjust so something prints well, though on a monitor it's a bit different.

OOKAY

... he made the darks darker, and the lights lighter, a technique that about every single photographer on the planet uses to make more contrast in their picture. the dog looks much more vivid and striking in his picture than the original. Who cares if you can't see what's in the shadows. It's basically the difference between a family photo, and a professional picture (besides physical composition).
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: dugweb
Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: NightDarker
Originally posted by: OdiN
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/OdiN/IMG_6404Edit.jpg

Sharpened and a bit of exposure adjust.

Definitely not digging this

Getting rid of the leach is done very well, but the rest of the adjustment makes it look poor.

Eh...it's a taste thing. I realize I killed some of the shadow detail.

Actually, I have a tendancy to adjust so something prints well, though on a monitor it's a bit different.

OOKAY

... he made the darks darker, and the lights lighter, a technique that about every single photographer on the planet uses to make more contrast in their picture. the dog looks much more vivid and striking in his picture than the original. Who cares if you can't see what's in the shadows. It's basically the difference between a family photo, and a professional picture (besides physical composition).

Yes, it's done by many photographer but not like that. Why do you think all of those photography (equipment) sites/photographers make a great deal about Dymanic Range and tonal response of any given cameras? Why do you think so many photographers desire medium format cameras even when they don't care much about MP? Because a good camera isn't supposed to make shallow images like that. Because good cameras, not to mention MF cameras, deliver more DR and tonal reponses.
As many pointed out, the picture looks quite terrible. It may be eye catching when you first see it but it wears off very quickly. A good photographer cares more about the longevity of images rather than its cheap shock value attained by giving high contrast.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Yes, it's done by many photographer but not like that. Why do you think all of those photography (equipment) sites make a great deal about Dymanic Range, tonal response of cameras? Because a good camera doesn't make images like that.
As many pointed out, the picture looks quite terrible.

As I said, yes some of the shadow detail on the dog was lost. The background is of no consequence in this photo. Actually darkening that somewhat makes the subject stand out more.

There is only so much that can be done with a JPG image which is both improperly exposed and has the subject out of focus. The sharpening was to attempt to correct the focus issue, and it works decently well. Unless you're pixel peeping that is. Generally the sharpening methods I use are best used for prints. On a monitor if you're zooming in it may not look as if it helped, but it does. Also if you are viewing a resized image in your browser, it will look worse due to the way browsers resize web photos. View both images in a proper image editor or viewer, at 25% on your monitor. If you printed both of those images, mine would look better.

The original image is somewhat washed out. I adjusted and brought some of the color out. This process is partially responsible for some loss of detail in the shadow areas as I was also trying to fix the exposure. Of course, the detail in the lighter areas is improved. If you left it alone, you have less detail in the light areas in the original photo - I just decided to improve the detail in the lighter areas at the expense of the darker areas, as in my opinion it looks better doing that than the other way around. If you notice, the nose is not the focal point of the photograph, so again in my opinion it is acceptable trade off to restore some detail to the dogs coat of hair vs. being so focused on the shadow detail in the nose and in the background (which is irrelevant anyway).

So, before just saying that something is "terrible" you may want to actually provide a reason why you think that is the case. Go ahead and critique it all you want, I don't care. But at least show some semblance of thought went into your statement, otherwise you don't really come off very well.

Your major complaint seems to be dynamic range/loss of shadow detail. Explain why that, in this particular photo, is the most important element in regards to its composition.
 
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