Physx is just a gimmick.

[TurtleCrusher]

So as I was playing my favorite basketball game (NBA 2K9) I was just running through the setting since I just reinstalled the game and I found a relatively hidden option. While all settings have a low-med-high settings, the player model has an ultra high setting that is unknown unless you scroll down and move the setting.

I play the game @ 1680x1050, Vsync, 8xAA, maxed out. I had my CPU @ stock and my GPU overclocked.

I was absolutely amazed what a difference it made to the player models. Not only were the polygon counts at least 20% increased but the jerseys move around the players while responding to their motions and other players around them. What even surprised me more is that my FPS still didn't budge at all. Constant 60fps the entire time (unless scripted parts like free throw routines or stadium shots which are automatically capped at 30fps for the motion effect). This game is dual threaded, meaning it doesn't make use of more then 2 threads. It stayed at 45% utilized the entire time and my modest 2.33ghz Q8200 had no problems whatsoever pushing out 60fps butter smooth.

Physx is a joke really. Looking at Batman and Mirrors Edge just showing moving banners and newspapers bumbling around is just ridiculous. With NBA 2K9 using their own method on every player (even players on the bench) it is proof you don't need a dedicated software layer just for these effects.

With NBA 2K9 running 26 players in real-time @ 60fps just fine on a dual core, a quad core can seriously handle all of these calculations with ease.

Here is a lower quality fraps clip of what I am talking about. EDIT: Look at how the jersey reacts to pulling back and coming down from the fade away. And the turn around. The lower portion of the jersey really reflects this feature.

Brandon Roy crossing over and hitting the fadeaway jumper

Agree or disagree?

 

[thilanliyan]

Ummm...I can't really tell from that short clip. The cloth still looks a bit stiff though.

 

[Insomniator]

I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

 

[apoppin]

i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

 

[dguy6789]

There's nothing in that video with PhysX on that hasn't been done in other games without PhysX perfectly fine.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Quoted instead of edited.

 

[Nemesis 1]

PhysicsX is no joke its early . The problem with these topics Is Fanboyism. To get from one place to another ya need to do more than talk about it ya have to take that first step.

My belief is software physics is over all better approach. Today still the best Demo I have seen was 1 year ago meteor.

Some believe cpu is better others believe the gpu is better . I believe who ever uses ALL its resources best will win.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

Yes. Features removed. Why on earth couldn't they just keep the features and have subpar performance if the hardware wasn't adequate for it? Its fucking cloth, cape, and smoke. Oh my god. :musichysx is wonderful:music:. It looks no better then how its been done over the past few years.

Neither can your Radeon so what is your point? And says who? People who had their old 3870's ran it just fine. The Physx standalone card is piss poor weak. Any semi modern GPU can handle that.

And silly examples of shorts? It is the whole set of uniforms. There are 26 pairs of them running in real time along with everything else going on. It is much more then what is going on in Mirrors Edge and Batman.

Why would you leave a rose after an argumentative comment like that? Like that is really going to make my reply nice or something similar to that effect.

 

[Henrah]

For NBA 2k9, I agree that PhysX is unneeded. There isn't much going on in that game, and the increase in quality from using PhysX cloth is unnecessary.

The extent to which PhysX is used in Batman and Cryostasis is great; and for the developers to create their own physics engine to produce such a level of immersion, it would use up their time and resources which were spent on other aspects of the game that have clearly benefited from their time and attention. (Combat in Batman, for example.) PhysX is looking good. It is a shame, however, that because they used PhysX, they didn't bother creating their own engine, which means ATI owners miss out on physics completely. It's a luxury, without which the game is still a complete and playable game. The immersion is nice, though.

The sparks in that Batman PhysX demo are annoying me slightly, though. They move completely vertically after their 2nd bounce. Lame. >_<

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

Yes. Features removed. Why on earth couldn't they just keep the features and have subpar performance if the hardware wasn't adequate for it? Its fucking cloth, cape, and smoke. Oh my god. :musichysx is wonderful:music:. It looks no better then how its been done over the past few years.

Neither can your Radeon so what is your point? And says who? People who had their old 3870's ran it just fine. The Physx standalone card is piss poor weak. Any semi modern GPU can handle that.

And silly examples of shorts? It is the whole set of uniforms. There are 26 pairs of them running in real time along with everything else going on. It is much more then what is going on in Mirrors Edge and Batman.

Why would you leave a rose after an argumentative comment like that? Like that is really going to make my reply nice or something similar to that effect.

Why leave a rose? .. because i totally disagree with your posts
- it is better than saying what i really think about them

i think you have no clue about PhysX and what it can do. i have a GTX 280 and a 8800 GTX set up for PhysX

You just don't like being "left out" .. and you are .. in the cold
- with Cryostasis

so you ridicule what you do not have - apparently to make yourself feel better

 

[Genx87]

I remember when people like the OP scoffed at the idea of dedicated silicon for rendering graphics. Luddites seem to love tech based msgboards.

It is coming, enjoy it instead trying to fight it.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

Yes. Features removed. Why on earth couldn't they just keep the features and have subpar performance if the hardware wasn't adequate for it? Its fucking cloth, cape, and smoke. Oh my god. :musichysx is wonderful:music:. It looks no better then how its been done over the past few years.

Neither can your Radeon so what is your point? And says who? People who had their old 3870's ran it just fine. The Physx standalone card is piss poor weak. Any semi modern GPU can handle that.

And silly examples of shorts? It is the whole set of uniforms. There are 26 pairs of them running in real time along with everything else going on. It is much more then what is going on in Mirrors Edge and Batman.

Why would you leave a rose after an argumentative comment like that? Like that is really going to make my reply nice or something similar to that effect.

Why leave a rose? .. because i totally disagree with your posts
- it is better than saying what i really think about them

i think you have no clue about PhysX and what it can do. i have a GTX 280 and a 8800 GTX set up for PhysX

You just don't like being "left out" .. and you are .. in the cold
- with Cryostasis

so you ridicule what you do not have - apparently to make yourself feel better

I have mirrors edge and an 8800GTS. I remember right when nVidia made its acquisition public. I downloaded Physx demo's and such. I know exactly what Physx is.

Ridicule what I dont have? You are rude and incorrect. I'm not making myself feel better. I'm not left out in the cold. You're being an asshole.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

Yes. Features removed. Why on earth couldn't they just keep the features and have subpar performance if the hardware wasn't adequate for it? Its fucking cloth, cape, and smoke. Oh my god. :musichysx is wonderful:music:. It looks no better then how its been done over the past few years.

Neither can your Radeon so what is your point? And says who? People who had their old 3870's ran it just fine. The Physx standalone card is piss poor weak. Any semi modern GPU can handle that.

And silly examples of shorts? It is the whole set of uniforms. There are 26 pairs of them running in real time along with everything else going on. It is much more then what is going on in Mirrors Edge and Batman.

Why would you leave a rose after an argumentative comment like that? Like that is really going to make my reply nice or something similar to that effect.

Why leave a rose? .. because i totally disagree with your posts
- it is better than saying what i really think about them

i think you have no clue about PhysX and what it can do. i have a GTX 280 and a 8800 GTX set up for PhysX

You just don't like being "left out" .. and you are .. in the cold
- with Cryostasis

so you ridicule what you do not have - apparently to make yourself feel better

I have mirrors edge and an 8800GTS. I remember right when nVidia made its acquisition public. I downloaded Physx demo's and such. I know exactly what Physx is.

Ridicule what I dont have? You are rude and incorrect. I'm not making myself feel better. I'm not left out in the cold. You're being an asshole.

i am?

You are the one with the personal attacks :|

i have Mirror's Edge also and i run it with a dedicated card for PhysX that is twice as fast as yours that is trying to do everything

if you have run it on an old GPU, you have certainly NOT experienced PhysX; even though you think you do - and Cryostasis (with the latest patch) is showing that PhysX implementation is getting better and better

Your example of Physics in your console port is just silly; there is none so blind as he that refuses to see

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i have Mirror's Edge also and i run it with a dedicated card for PhysX that is twice as fast as yours that is trying to do everything

I'll agree with you on Cryostasis but Mirror's Edge is nothing special when it comes to PhysX effects and you DEFINITELY don't need a high end card to run ME with PhysX. Having a card twice as powerful doesn't mean the effects are suddenly enhanced.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: apoppin
i think PhysX is more than a gimmick as it does add to Cryostasis

in Batman also

GPU PhysX in Batman Arkham Asylum Demo

there is a LOT of difference between the OP's short little clip; i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics

Do you not see the features were just removed? There is no doubt a GPU can run that fog or a CPU can run that cloth. The cape does look nice no doubt, but it can easily be done without Physx.

This is nVidia marketing at its best. Without any hesitation I can say there was serious incentive on the developers part to butcher the game itself and make Physx look good.

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I think that game looks crappy and that there is a lot more to Physx than basketball shorts.

When a quad core and SLI 295's are busy running the next Crysis or whatever at 20fps, a physx card to handle the exploding building that just got hit by a rocket could be very helpful.

Game looks crappy?

Show me a sports game that looks better, especially with that much movement going on.

Why even mention SLI 295's? not even .01% of consumers has this so bringing it up makes everything you said a null point.

features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

Yes. Features removed. Why on earth couldn't they just keep the features and have subpar performance if the hardware wasn't adequate for it? Its fucking cloth, cape, and smoke. Oh my god. :musichysx is wonderful:music:. It looks no better then how its been done over the past few years.

Neither can your Radeon so what is your point? And says who? People who had their old 3870's ran it just fine. The Physx standalone card is piss poor weak. Any semi modern GPU can handle that.

And silly examples of shorts? It is the whole set of uniforms. There are 26 pairs of them running in real time along with everything else going on. It is much more then what is going on in Mirrors Edge and Batman.

Why would you leave a rose after an argumentative comment like that? Like that is really going to make my reply nice or something similar to that effect.

Why leave a rose? .. because i totally disagree with your posts
- it is better than saying what i really think about them

i think you have no clue about PhysX and what it can do. i have a GTX 280 and a 8800 GTX set up for PhysX

You just don't like being "left out" .. and you are .. in the cold
- with Cryostasis

so you ridicule what you do not have - apparently to make yourself feel better

I have mirrors edge and an 8800GTS. I remember right when nVidia made its acquisition public. I downloaded Physx demo's and such. I know exactly what Physx is.

Ridicule what I dont have? You are rude and incorrect. I'm not making myself feel better. I'm not left out in the cold. You're being an asshole.

i am?

You are the one with the personal attacks

i have Mirror's Edge also and i run it with a dedicated card for PhysX that is twice as fast as yours that is trying to do everything

if you have run it on an old GPU, you have certainly NOT experienced PhysX; even though you think you do - and Cryostasis (with the latest patch) is showing that PhysX implementation is getting better and better

Your example of Physics in your console port is just silly; there is none so blind as he that refuses to see

No attacks? To sum it up you said I was all butt hurt because i was left out of the party. And continuously you keep calling my hardware inadequate and inferior.

Twice as fast? You are so fucking cool. Good for you.

Its not silly whatsoever. If a game looks amazing while performing extremely well on affordable hardware then that comparison is completely valid. It just goes to show us that games and gimmicks such as batman/cryostasis require a certain brand for a certain game is all marketing bullshit. With massively overblown hardware requirements with said games just to achieve optimal "effects" which could have been in there anyway you are becoming their cash cow. This is especially evident if you actually do have a 4870x2 AND a GTX 280 AND an 8800GTX for physx.

Nothing Physx is has not been done before on inferior hardware. Its just locked onto a certain brand.

Also, why don't you list your nVidia cards as your gaming GPUs? You always have seemed to have that pro-Nvidia vibe and I now know why.

 

[AmberClad]

Scholzpdx, you're headed towards being tossed on a plane to Vacation Island if you continue to respond to differing opinions with insults and gratuitous profanity. I hear it's quite pleasant there this time of year...

AmberClad
Video Moderator

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: apoppin
i have Mirror's Edge also and i run it with a dedicated card for PhysX that is twice as fast as yours that is trying to do everything

I'll agree with you on Cryostasis but Mirror's Edge is nothing special when it comes to PhysX effects and you DEFINITELY don't need a high end card to run ME with PhysX. Having a card twice as powerful doesn't mean the effects are suddenly enhanced.

Even though ME does not particularly run very well on a 8800GTS, my *point* is that PhysX is evolving; ME was an early example of a GAME with PhysX
- when Cryostasis was first released, it also was so-so


the guys that are falsely claiming it is a gimmick are dead wrong .. and they are almost all from the "ATi camp"
- today .. now ... last year, i would have agreed [and i think i did]

times are a changing and ATi needs to do something about it imo

No attacks? To sum it up you said I was all butt hurt because i was left out of the party. And continuously you keep calling my hardware inadequate and inferior.

Twice as fast? You are so fucking cool. Good for you.

Its not silly whatsoever. If a game looks amazing while performing extremely well on affordable hardware then that comparison is completely valid. It just goes to show us that games and gimmicks such as batman/cryostasis require a certain brand for a certain game is all marketing bullshit. With massively overblown hardware requirements with said games just to achieve optimal "effects" which could have been in there anyway you are becoming their cash cow. This is especially evident if you actually do have a 4870x2 AND a GTX 280 AND an 8800GTX for physx.

Nothing Physx is has not been done before on inferior hardware. Its just locked onto a certain brand.

Also, why don't you list your nVidia cards as your gaming GPUs? You always have seemed to have that pro-Nvidia vibe and I now know why.

there is no room in my sig for 2 PCs with the details i want to give
- i am always accused of being "pro-Nvidia" by ATi fans and "Pro ATi" by Nvidia fans

that is my personal issue with loving both companies HW

i AM saying that your example is poor and that you have not run PhysX adequately to know about it - certainly not the latest games with it
- what you call BS marketing is going to be important

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: thilan29
Ummm...I can't really tell from that short clip. The cloth still looks a bit stiff though.

Yeah, looks like a lower res mesh than what we usually see from physx.

But I'm still not convinced that most physx effects couldn't have been accomplished with a quad core. But CUDA will only use a single core of the cpu, so I'd imagine it is the same for physx.

However, havok does support quad cores, and is also free (ish). I'd imagine most games that use physx are just developed on the unreal 3 engine. Ghostbusters had pretty neat physics using the internal engine, btw.

Also, the primary difference I've seen in physx and the physics engines that came before is weight modeling. Objects in physx have weight. The best example I've seen of this was in the unreal tournament 3 lego level. There's a tower of stacked legos. Most games, just walking up to the tower would knock it over, with the objects ignoring that there's a ton of weight stacked on them. In UT3, any attacks at the bottom of the tower barely effect its stability, you have to shoot the top of the tower to start to knock it over. I've yet to see a cpu physics engine do that.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Scholzpdx, you're headed towards being tossed on a plane to Vacation Island if you continue to respond to differing opinions with insults and gratuitous profanity. I hear it's quite pleasant there this time of year...

AmberClad
Video Moderator

Way to look at it one-sided. Did you not see that its a two way street? How else is someone going to respond to a person calling them dumb, blind, and making troll statements?

"i doubt a 4830 could even run Arkham Asylum at even med details with no physics"

That is preposterous. Its a troll statement. He keeps dissing my hardware like its something incredibly inferior. You, I and everyone else knows it CERTAINLY can. If it can run Crysis:Warhead on all high w\ 2xaa @ 25-34fps, it certainly can.

Calling someone bitter because they are "left out of the cold" just because I have a differing opinion? These comments are worse then a profanity laden comeback. What makes it worse is that its not even true.

 

[SSChevy2001]

Originally posted by: apoppin
features removed?
- i think not .. you Radeon cannot run that game's physX [period]

PhysX looks a hell of a lot better in Batman than your silly example of shorts - your video card is well suited for console ports

I got to agree with Scholzpdx, that the Batman PhysX demo has just plain removed features that would work fine on most current CPUs. It a clear case where Nvidia is marketing the need for GPU PhysX, and they paid extra for these effects, but don't fall for the hype.

Just looking at Mirror's Edge for an example, all the GPU effects except the glass work just fine on only 2 threads. Now looking at the Batman demo I see the same thing where most of the effects should work fine except more than likely the destructible floor tile.

The end result is you either have enough CPU power to run all the GPU PhysX effects or you get nothing ( not even static banners. )

 

[thilanliyan]

Scholzpdx, just forget about it and don't respond to it...you've said your piece already.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: thilan29
Scholzpdx, just forget about it and don't respond to it...you've said your piece already.

Copy that.

:beer:

 

[SSChevy2001]

Originally posted by: Fox5
Also, the primary difference I've seen in physx and the physics engines that came before is weight modeling. Objects in physx have weight.

Take a look at red faction guerilla.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ofYAlaikYA