Pic of some military guy who messed up so bad he was sent outside to mop the rain!

[Reasonable Doubt]

 

[GagHalfrunt]

If I paid my taxes this sort of thing would be really distressing.

 

[Markbnj]

It's a classic military punishment, intended to reinforce exactly how little a raw recruit is worth. Like moving piles of rocks from one place to another, which was another classic from back in the day.

 

[olds]

It's a classic military punishment, intended to reinforce exactly how little a raw recruit is worth. Like moving piles of rocks from one place to another, which was another classic from back in the day.

Or turning BFR into LFR

 

[FelixDeCat]

It's a classic military punishment, intended to reinforce exactly how little a raw recruit is worth. Like moving piles of rocks from one place to another, which was another classic from back in the day.

try running up and down a steep long hill with a loaded backpack for several hours or eating fork meals with a spoon or .....

 

[Sonikku]

What a waste. We continously throw staggering fortunes away to the military complex and contractors to defend "freedom" and keep us safe, but for all the price gouged super jet pet projects and increasingly impractical weapons that increasingly prove vulnerable to weapons significantly cheaper, I don't feel we're all that safer. On the contrary, for all the lives given and all the modern wars fought, I'd dare say we've created more threats to our safety than destroyed. And to top it all off we sink $100,000 per soldier per year to... mop up rain and move rocks?
I would never sign up for that. My time is more valuable than mopping up rain and moving around rocks. And it's definitely more valuable than fighting conflicts that if anything will only make us less safe in the future. What a waste.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

When I was in basic, more often than not, when one guy screws up the whole squad, or platoon would be punished.

 

[Scotteq]

Heh - I had a Lieutenant who liked making people do shit like this...

His response to a polite question? "The maintenance manual says "Wash the Airplane today". We keep track of - and are judged on - how closely we follow the manual. Whether or not the aircraft was washed is a matter of record. But nobody will remember that it rained."

 

[mmntech]

That doesn't sound like much of a punishment. I used to do stuff like that every day when I worked on the car lot. They also don't have to deal with civilians having temper tantrums like a 2 year old over their first world problems. The military must be getting soft.

 

[Scotteq]

When I was in basic, more often than not, when one guy screws up the whole squad, or platoon would be punished.

heh - Punish the squad, give the troublemaker a smoke break, and let the squad take care of the issue...

 

[runzwithsizorz]

heh - Punish the squad, give the troublemaker a smoke break, and let the squad take care of the issue...

Oh trust me, if the squad gets punished enough from the same guys screw ups He would get a late night visit. I forget what we called it back then, but it involved heavy objects in pillow cases. I remember one guy that never showered, and we solved that problem with 5 guys, and hard floor scrubbing brushes.

 

[Sonikku]

Towel parties? ha no thanks!

 

[Scotteq]

Oh trust me, if the squad gets punished enough from the same guys screw ups He would get a late night visit. I forget what we called it back then, but it involved heavy objects in pillow cases. I remember one guy that never showered, and we solved that problem with 5 guys, and hard floor scrubbing brushes.

Same - Had one of those in boot camp, too - We scrubbed him down with the same brushes we used on the floors.

The next morning - two things happened: Our friend was a living scab, and they transferred him out of the company.

 

[Broheim]

If I paid my taxes this sort of thing would be really distressing.

meh, having a boot mop the parking lot is probably one of the very least wasteful things the military does.

when we were getting punished my DIs were a lot more devious. They'd schedule Friday's retreat ceremony (I guess that's the closest thing to it in the US military) for noon so we'd all get our hopes up and make grand plans.

as soon as we'd get back to barracks...

inspection time, and before you knew it, you could be spending the next 12 hours polishing light sockets. It go so bad one time that one of my roommates ran out of the barracks and jumped the fence, losing quite a bit of clothing to the razor wire and then stomped away half naked and bleeding, screaming and yelling.

he actually didn't get punished for it because our company commander conceded that the DIs had taken it too far.

 

[Markbnj]

he actually didn't get punished for it because our company commander conceded that the DIs had taken it too far.

I'm surprised he wasn't discharged.

 

[BoomerD]

gotta pay them anyway...might as well find SOMETHING for them to do...

 

[Broheim]

I'm surprised he wasn't discharged.

any kind of punishment would have had to come from JAG, DIs aren't actually allowed to punish us according to military code (it's tolerated in smaller amounts) and the company commander can only NJP you so heads would have been rolling for the treatment we got, and my friend would most likely only have gotten a slap on the wrist in light of it all.

That day was sooo fucked up, towards the end when some asshole sergeant from 1st platoon came in and said the room looked good except the floor is wet and then emptied his water bottle on floor, I almost went for my knife. I have never, ever in my adult life been so angry as I was that night. We were allowed to leave some time after 2am, because I remember the trains had stopped running by then and I spent the night freezing my ass off at the trainstation (no way in hell were I going back on base that weekend). No food and water, no smoke breaks, and no toilet breaks for 14 hours straight, only cleaning and abuse. It's probably a good thing they brought in DIs from the other platoons to be the dicks because.. you know.. accidents do happen on range days...

 

[cKGunslinger]

as soon as we'd get back to barracks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaaglviNvVk

 

[MongGrel]

Oh trust me, if the squad gets punished enough from the same guys screw ups He would get a late night visit. I forget what we called it back then, but it involved heavy objects in pillow cases. I remember one guy that never showered, and we solved that problem with 5 guys, and hard floor scrubbing brushes.

Soap in socks, was called a blanket party.

We had one DI was I was going through got busted for being a complete ass att.

14 hours without a cig? Heh at the time we had to go one month straight to even buy them, then were only allowed to smoke once a day if you did later.

I take it this wasn't USMC bootcamp.

 

[Gerle]

It looks like it could be the terminal on MCAS Futenma, the uniform and the weather fit too.

 

[Broheim]

14 hours without a cig? Heh at the time we had to go one month straight to even buy them, then were only allowed to smoke once a day if you did later.

I take it this wasn't USMC bootcamp.

no, Danish army. But in a lot of ways the Danish army seems more similar to the marine corps than the US army.

we had quite a lot of smoke breaks, this is Denmark so cigarettes and a well stocked bar in the mess kinda goes with the territory. Some field ops we we'rent allowed to smoke, and never after dark (except for the very last one in basic, we were occupying a national guard base and light discipline means fuck all when you're standing under a streetlight). I can handle a three day field op without smoking just fine, but on top of the other shit it was just a recipe for the perfect shitstorm.

 

[zerocool84]

I have zero problem with this type of punishment. It doesn't physically hurt anyone but you can bet that guy will try hard not to mess up again.

 

[momeNt]

Without a standing military, and the type of hazing, punishment, etc. that comes with it (see picture) we wouldn't be safe. We have too many natural resources to be considered even remotely safe without idle military mopping in the rain, or moving mountains of rocks.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Military can't even serve on US soil, so how are they protecting our "freedom"?

 

[shortylickens]

Military can't even serve on US soil, so how are they protecting our "freedom"?

Against the threats made up and real which Big Brother tells you to be scared of.

I was in on 9/11, graduating C school from Great Lakes.
We had a multi-trillion dollar military at the time. Completely unable to prevent a triple attack on US Soil.
In fact it was a group of disorganized civilians who actually prevented it from being much worse.

We dump assloads of money into a giant machine that looks good but doesnt really do what its claimed to.

Did they cut back on the budget?
No.
They just formed a new department, told them to do the job the military was originally supposed to do, mismanaged both departments, then spent years blaming each other on capital hill. While they make money and good men die.

Fucked up system all around.
Thats why I keep voting for DoD cuts and improvements in our schools. We need to redevelop our capital base (young minds) or else we're in deep shit 100 years from now.