Pictures of my horrible new fence

[Antisocial Virge]

I was kinda willing to agree with you to a point untill I got to the hinge picture and I could not believe that anybody thought that was ok.

 

[TripleAAA]

I just hope the judge I get appreciates the value of good quality work. You don't have to be an expert at fencing to know there are several things wrong with my fence.

 

[AlienCraft]

Damn, that's some Fvcked up work.
No brackets and no dado cuts on those posts.
whoopee dee doos for rails, nice cuts on the arches, did he do that with a circular saw?

I would be counter - suing so hard.
Get a couple of estimate from other fence companies.

 

[Fritzo]

It looks to me like he didn't inspect his materials before building, or he got a deal on some "seconds" at his supplier. Pretty sloppy job.

 

[TripleAAA]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
It looks to me like he didn't inspect his materials before building, or he got a deal on some "seconds" at his supplier. Pretty sloppy job.

I recall him at one point prior to building the fence saying that he had bought a large amount of cedar before the prices went up. Also one of the other contractors said he used a "grade 2" wood.

 

[bctbct]

WOOD BUTCHER!

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: TripleAAA

Originally posted by: Beau
wow, they did a horrible job. No way in hell I'd pay him until he fixed it.

I think I used your website to host. Thanks and nice service btw

Yeah I'm glad I didn't pay him anything yet. It's frustrating because i got this midget fence now and can't do much of anything with it until this thing is settled.

Hehe, yeah, that's what queued me into this thread. I was checking daily image statistics...

Best of luck with the fence issue, though. You really shouldn't have a problem contesting the quality of the work done.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: TripleAAA

Originally posted by: Fritzo
It looks to me like he didn't inspect his materials before building, or he got a deal on some "seconds" at his supplier. Pretty sloppy job.

I recall him at one point prior to building the fence saying that he had bought a large amount of cedar before the prices went up. Also one of the other contractors said he used a "grade 2" wood.

OK, that means they're going to use all that wood at Home Depot that people put aside because it's warped, chiped, has huge knotholes, etc.

 

[TripleAAA]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: TripleAAA

Originally posted by: Fritzo
It looks to me like he didn't inspect his materials before building, or he got a deal on some "seconds" at his supplier. Pretty sloppy job.

I recall him at one point prior to building the fence saying that he had bought a large amount of cedar before the prices went up. Also one of the other contractors said he used a "grade 2" wood.

OK, that means they're going to use all that wood at Home Depot that people put aside because it's warped, chiped, has huge knotholes, etc.

So it sounds like wood from Home Depot sucks from the comments in this thread. I think a lot of the fencing contractors get their wood at the same place though because another guy was saying how they all see each other at the lumber yard and he mentioned the name...it wasn't HD or any of the larger stores.

 

[0roo0roo]

woah....
i just looked at the pics. fencing is rather easy contracting.very little skill required, just tiring work. theres no skillful wood joints or anything these days, its all nails concrete and braces. retarded easy. that kind of messiness is never justifiable.

 

[her209]

Ouch. Send the lawyer back a copy of the pictures with the note that says, "Would you pay your client for the job if he built this fence?"

 

[BoomerD]

Wow...that's possibly the worst fence job I've ever seen. As many here have already said, they're not terribly difficult to build. If does look like he got the posts in a pretty straight line, (can't see enough of the fence line to say for sure), but used warped lumber. NO excuse for that kind of workmanship. Even if you did it yourself, and have never built a fence before, I think it would turn out better than that...
Some friends hired a different friend to rebuild their privacy fence several years ago, and after a week of dicking around (as $20/hour) he hadn't done very much actual work. They called me and my wife and asked us to come help them finish the job on a Sunday morning...By that evening, we had finished. Had to set 3 or 4 posts, replace about 30 of the horizontal 2X4's, and nail about 100 boards. (everything had to be cut to length of course) I freely admit I'm a wood-butcher...always have been, always will be...just not my thing, but we did 10X the job that contractor did. I'd definitely offer him the chance to fix it and do it right. Then, if he refused, I'd get a written estimate from a different contractor to either fix it, or do it right. Then, it'd be time for small-claims court, and with those pictures, and a good written estimate from a different contractorI think you'd win.

 

[tomywishbone]

"Mr. Gorbachav, tear down this wall." R. Reagan

 

[kitkat22]

Is it just me or is the posts, etc. untreated wood?

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: cscpianoman
Is it just me or is the posts, etc. untreated wood?

Cedar posts last longer and are more eco-friendly than chem posts.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Keep on fighting.

In the meantime, hang a big banner on it letting the world know exactly who built it.

Edit: if they give you trouble for the banner, ask them "why are you angry, I thought you were happy with the work you did?"

 

[Conky]

How hard is it to put up a fence by yourself? Seriously.

Anyway, your pics don't show that it's a bad fence but rather that you are a bad photographer perhaps in search of a free fence, lol.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Poor worksmanship
Not mixed well and concrete should form a small mound so that water sheds away from post.

That's concrete???:Q I thought it was just crushed stone.


Damn, that looks like someone's first attempt at a fence. At age 10. Without any kind of blueprints. Or power tools. Or measuring devices.

 

[timosyy]

... Pretty sure my 12 yr old sister could build a better fence, with a ruler and some verbal directions. Jeez. What the heck is up with the concrete & hinge not even on the post?

 

[jackace]

As stated above. Make sure you get 2-3 estimates from other contractors in your area to fix the fence before going to court. Make sure you have all your documentation ready. A video is a good option along with the pictures. Small claims court is a good option because it will keep lawyers out of the mix and allow the judge to talk with the contractor in person and the contractor will have to explain his actions in person to the judge.

 

[ed21x]

any changes to a legal document requires that you initial and date it. So this little note that he made holds no grounds.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Fern
They used warped wood, and what, a drunk beaver to chew the wood off?

:laugh:

GG to Captain Fencemaster, what a POS :thumbsdown:

You should pull out every piece of it and beat him with them.

 

[imported_Mike]

Get rid of the entire thing, just get a new one put in. What a pos contractor.

 

[SlickSnake]

Ok, the most important point I think in your lawsuit or claims situation is this: a wooden backyard fence is typically built for privacy, not as a mere landscaping addition, like typically a short wood fence would be when built around the front yard. Since its obvious you have a yard surrounded by other houses that are unfenced, the only possible conclusion is the fence was intended as a 6 foot wooden privacy fence. Otherwise, if privacy were not a concern, you would have simply had a cheaper 4 foot chain link fence built around the backyard instead.

If, however, a judge chooses to ignore these obvious facts about wood fence heights and privacy, and instead focuses simply on the quality of the fence, such as not even bothering to add a latch to the double gate to keep it closed and undamaged in a wind and all the obviously warped wooden pieces, you may be looking at a situation where he simply orders the contractor to fix the damages. So you need to get that repair option out of the way before you go to court, so you dont have to return to court again later if he fails to repair it properly.

A few possible solutions to fix this, should you get stuck with it, would be to add a lattice along the top of the fence to bring it to the proper height. Once you get some nice vines growing along it, you might turn lemons into lemonade in a few years. A more difficult solution would be to raise the fence up a bit and replace some of the posts with longer ones (like at the corners) and add either a heavy lattice or some long, wide runner boards going between the posts along the bottom. These might also be considered fixes for the contractor in court if you are forced to keep it and he is forced to repair it. It is good to go to court knowing what you might settle for before you have to suddenly think about those options when faced with them in court.

Unfortunately, some contractors are not very competent and this happens more often than it should. I have my own fence horror story with a 100 foot long 8 foot fence falling over in 10 different directions right after being built after it was shorted on the length of the posts. The guy worked for Sears as a contractor, and I complained about the build immediately after he finished it, when I saw it leaning all over the place. I had him leave me all the posts he cut off, and most were a foot and a half long (meaning 6 inches in the ground). He also built about 100 feet of 6 foot fence, but because it wasnt falling over immediately, the Sears claims adjuster would only refund half the fence build. The contractor had to remove the other 8 foot half, and I rebuilt it myself. I used 3 2x4s inside the 10 foot posts I sunk 2 feet in concrete. I sided the pickets on the outside of the fence. Even the garbage truck when it hit the fence did not knock it down!

Good luck on this! Keep us posted on the outcome!

 

[DaTT]

Wouldn't pay a cent for that crap.