Pillars of Eternity - To be released March 26th. Who's excited?

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JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
11,686
2,138
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This game is incredible, I'm hooked. It took a little while to get used to the combat system, but now I really enjoy it. To those of you complaining about the party not having any AI, that's how this kind of game works, you just need to get used to it. If the party had AI it would drastically change the game.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
11,686
2,138
126
So no answers on the addons like the strategy guide - then what about the first expansion being offered for $20 if you buy now?

I bought the physical guide (prima collectors edition) and the lore book, but mainly because I like to collect those kinds of things. I won't buy those things in digital form.
 

JeffNY35

Senior member
Dec 16, 2009
294
2
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Ahhhhhhh. It's happening to me again. The desire to keep re-rolling !

so my first attempt was a wood elf rogue. I didn't do terrible. Think I made him 16 might 16 Dex and put the rest into perception. But didn't realize perception doesn't play into scouting, and pumping more into might and Dex would of been better.

Worse , I took crippling strike and backstab. Neither are useless but again I didn't understand the game.

So I 're-rolled a ranged cipher.Better this time, awesome class. More cc than dmg but his ranged dmg isn't shabby.
But I didn't put anything into stealth or mechanics thinking the ranger companion would provide both and would essentially be a ranged rogue. Alas she has maxxed survival and no mechanics.

Also there is a cipher companion but I haven't gotten there yet.

So NOW...I feeling like a second take at the rogue but min maxxing a little better.

I was trying a hard play through with the cipher. I was doing pretty well but I'll admit some fights would wear me out enough that I was resting a lot which means constant trips back to get supplies or rest at stronghold. Not super hard but annoying. I tturned it down to normal. Just hit level 5 or 6.

What to do....Lol.

Any further suggestions on a rogue redo? Or should I avoid this desire to keep starting over. True baldurs gate sickness ! I love it ...haha
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
2,002
2
76
My Rogue is level 12, and owns every category like 'most damage done in a single hit', 'most enemies killed' and so on.

I tried out stealth backstab first, but after the first few levels it doesn't seem like you can sneak up on anything (8 Stealth), and my Rogue often got knocked out when in melee.

So I gave him a crossbow, and later a blunderbuss, and stuck all my talent points into things with +accuracy, graze to hit to crit, and damage. Mid-game he could sneak attack 1-shot many mobs.

The key to using a Rogue, is that they get the Sneak attack bonus when enemies are knocked down and other afflictions, so I often used the priest aoe knockdown, and from other sources like my fighter.
 

Nashemon

Senior member
Jun 14, 2012
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Might pick this up on sale. Sure it will be a while though. Seems like it is taking longer for games to go cheap on steam lately.
While I know the convenience is nice, there are a multitude of other retailers that have better sales than Steam. Bought my copy for $30 on release day and it's even cheaper now. Key's activate on Steam unless they state otherwise. If you really want to play the game, and don't have some deep-down subconscious desire to buy it solely through them, there's really no use waiting for Steam to have their sale.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
2,002
2
76
So I finally finished the game, with 58 hours played. At first I tried to do all quests and search everywhere, but around three quarters through I stopped caring and just wanted to finish it.

I played it to death, and feel it was worth every penny, but in the end for everything better, there were four other things that should have gotten more attention.

Not to mention this game is extremely buggy - Ultima Ascension buggy. Even after the first big patch, I can't even load a game without waiting minutes in the main menu like it's reading my save from a cloud (which it's not). And, when I started, a quicksave took ~3 seconds, and zone load ~15; now a quicksave takes ~30 seconds and a zone load a minute or more (even for new games).

Doesn't measure up to BG, but tries and is fun. You can kill boss level creatures with lvl 2 spells, tripping dragons (think about that) into prone for extra damage, and hump your party members with your 1992 pathfinding. Good try, fun, but hoped for more and bugs and balance issue problems EA is better at spoils it.
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
21,476
13
81
So I finally finished the game, with 58 hours played. At first I tried to do all quests and search everywhere, but around three quarters through I stopped caring and just wanted to finish it.

I played it to death, and feel it was worth every penny, but in the end for everything better, there were four other things that should have gotten more attention.

Not to mention this game is extremely buggy - Ultima Ascension buggy. Even after the first big patch, I can't even load a game without waiting minutes in the main menu like it's reading my save from a cloud (which it's not). And, when I started, a quicksave took ~3 seconds, and zone load ~15; now a quicksave takes ~30 seconds and a zone load a minute or more (even for new games).

Doesn't measure up to BG, but tries and is fun. You can kill boss level creatures with lvl 2 spells, tripping dragons (think about that) into prone for extra damage, and hump your party members with your 1992 pathfinding. Good try, fun, but hoped for more and bugs and balance issue problems EA is better at spoils it.


Not a bad game but yes buggy,to me the game felt short for this type of RPG.

I too have finished the game,anyway got Lords of Xulima that I got off Steam very cheap to play,hopefully that'll give me a more longer gameplay .
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
13,990
180
106
Again nice to see that some of you think the same thing as me that the game while somewhat good is short of what it could have been and maybe even how it was marketed.

Am I the only one who is doing runs with expert mode and trial of iron on hard until you die then start over?
 

TheUnk

Golden Member
Jun 24, 2005
1,810
0
71
Am I the only one who is doing runs with expert mode and trial of iron on hard until you die then start over?

I tried that a few times. Gave up. After playing normally I can see that trial or iron really is made for a 2nd play through. I've reached several areas without much problem just to run into a fight that I can't possibly win yet, or a trap that went undetected and killed party members instantly.
 

StinkyPinky

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2002
6,829
874
126
So I finally finished the game, with 58 hours played. At first I tried to do all quests and search everywhere, but around three quarters through I stopped caring and just wanted to finish it.

I played it to death, and feel it was worth every penny, but in the end for everything better, there were four other things that should have gotten more attention.

Not to mention this game is extremely buggy - Ultima Ascension buggy. Even after the first big patch, I can't even load a game without waiting minutes in the main menu like it's reading my save from a cloud (which it's not). And, when I started, a quicksave took ~3 seconds, and zone load ~15; now a quicksave takes ~30 seconds and a zone load a minute or more (even for new games).

Doesn't measure up to BG, but tries and is fun. You can kill boss level creatures with lvl 2 spells, tripping dragons (think about that) into prone for extra damage, and hump your party members with your 1992 pathfinding. Good try, fun, but hoped for more and bugs and balance issue problems EA is better at spoils it.

I think the slow population of the save games at the title menu is due to how many save games you have. I deleted 75% of mine and it's a lot quicker.
 

PhatoseAlpha

Platinum Member
Apr 10, 2005
2,131
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So I finally finished the game, with 58 hours played. At first I tried to do all quests and search everywhere, but around three quarters through I stopped caring and just wanted to finish it.

I played it to death, and feel it was worth every penny, but in the end for everything better, there were four other things that should have gotten more attention.

Not to mention this game is extremely buggy - Ultima Ascension buggy. Even after the first big patch, I can't even load a game without waiting minutes in the main menu like it's reading my save from a cloud (which it's not). And, when I started, a quicksave took ~3 seconds, and zone load ~15; now a quicksave takes ~30 seconds and a zone load a minute or more (even for new games).

Doesn't measure up to BG, but tries and is fun. You can kill boss level creatures with lvl 2 spells, tripping dragons (think about that) into prone for extra damage, and hump your party members with your 1992 pathfinding. Good try, fun, but hoped for more and bugs and balance issue problems EA is better at spoils it.

Tripping? The best part of dragons in this game is when they fly over your oil slick, slip - on the oil slick, in midair - and fall from the sky.




Beat it. It's not a bad game, but the UI really was bad, and the game as a whole didn't seem to put usability on a high level. Having to walk into your home to rest in your castle, instead of being able to do it from the menu was needless, but I'd deal. Putting the bed on the second floor - so instead of one loading screen to rest, you had to deal with 3 total - that's just pointlessly wasting the player's time.

The lack of a way to play on after victory makes me wonder if they somehow missed the last 10 years of gaming.

And all sorts of other little things. The class description for a wizard says you eventually turn low level spells into per-encounter abilities. But 'eventually' apparently means 'at a level higher then the level cap in this game.'

And odd balancing choices, like how wizards have limited casts, while ciphers go into every battle with full MP, basically making their highest level spells per-encounter from the get go, with the chance to regenerate more from simple attacks. Grieving Mother had a level 5 spell that does damage + a knockdown, with a large radius, and it was foes only.

Still, not a bad game. But I doubt it's going to induce nostalgia the way BG or Torment do.
 

ArenCordial

Senior member
Sep 18, 2012
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While I agree the stronghold implementation certainly wasn't that good I have to disagree about the UI. Hyperlink explanations of every stat and status effect was a godsend. Every RPG should do this.

I'd honestly rank PoE favorably with the Icewind Dales and the first Baldur's Gate. It doesn't come anywhere close to BG2 or Torment but it was very fun. Hope they make a sequel.
 

PhatoseAlpha

Platinum Member
Apr 10, 2005
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The hyperlinks were nice, I'll give it that.

Doesn't even come close to making up for the severe visibility issues. Insufficient transparency on environmental object, sufficiently bright effects completely drowning out targeting circles, the lack of a proper location indicator for flying creatures.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
2,002
2
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Tripping? The best part of dragons in this game is when they fly over your oil slick, slip - on the oil slick, in midair - and fall from the sky.

Yea, those too


<snip> Putting the bed on the second floor - so instead of one loading screen to rest, you had to deal with 3 total - that's just pointlessly wasting the player's time.<snip>

To top it off, you get better bonuses from any OTHER Inns than the one in your castle too. That second floor bed is my bane since I have the loooooong load times bug (I have 7 save game files only btw StinkyPinky, thought too many might be the issue, but it doesn't seem to be).. I go make food when I start up the game now it take so long.

Still though, what else is anywhere near this game as a fantasy/strategy title? Nothing unless you've been under a rock the last 20 years. Sigh.
 

Red Storm

Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
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234
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The lack of a way to play on after victory makes me wonder if they somehow missed the last 10 years of gaming.

And all sorts of other little things. The class description for a wizard says you eventually turn low level spells into per-encounter abilities. But 'eventually' apparently means 'at a level higher then the level cap in this game.'

It's a story based game, not some open world Elder Scrolls game. The game should end at the end.

If you got your wizard to level 12, you would notice that your level 1 and 2 spells become per encounter.
 

PhatoseAlpha

Platinum Member
Apr 10, 2005
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It being a story based game is why I expected it to allow you to keep going. Fallout 2 did, and Dragon Age did. It's a simple measure to allow players to experience all the content in the game without massive sidetracking disrupting the story. That's a real immersion breaker in a game like this where they're trying so very hard to press the need for haste into the story by the main character going insane.
 

escrow4

Diamond Member
Feb 4, 2013
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It being a story based game is why I expected it to allow you to keep going. Fallout 2 did, and Dragon Age did. It's a simple measure to allow players to experience all the content in the game without massive sidetracking disrupting the story. That's a real immersion breaker in a game like this where they're trying so very hard to press the need for haste into the story by the main character going insane.

Its a 1995 era story based game. If you want modern mechanics you are playing the wrong title.
 

xantub

Senior member
Feb 12, 2014
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It's a story based game, not some open world Elder Scrolls game. The game should end at the end.

If you got your wizard to level 12, you would notice that your level 1 and 2 spells become per encounter.
It starts earlier, but people don't notice. At level 9-10 the first level spells are per-encounter. At level 11-12 the first and second level spells are per-encounter.
 

Rhezuss

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2006
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This game is awesome and exactly what I needed in 2015, a change of pace and an time travel into the sweet isometric RPG era.

But I have to agree on the bugs. I don't have many yet and those I have are not that game breaking but they're there.

I made a Paladin/Goldpack Knight as my character and tank. Not that good so far but I think I don't use it to it's max capacities. Still, I just found a great armor in the Endless Dungeon (floor 8 or 9 I think) and some cool weapons so it know shows some potential.

I only had 6 toons and made a Dwarf Barbarian to fill the 6th spot and damn that Rage skill is awesome. Made the difference in the lower levels of the endless dungeon. I'm stuck at floor 9 for now since my Mechanic skill is not high enough to open every chests and doors on the 8th and 9th floor. Will have to some back.

Just arrived at Defiance Bay yesterday, feels a bit like Amn from BG2, like it.

So far i'm really enjoying the game and Casters with Pistols are awesome.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,124
1,602
126
I have like 30 hours in, and have enjoyed myself quite a bit. Sure, there are some annoyances, but, this might just be the best RPG i've played in at least 10 years.....
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
21,476
13
81
I'm stuck at floor 9 for now since my Mechanic skill is not high enough to open every chests and doors on the 8th and 9th floor. Will have to some back.


You can do what I did,
there is a scroll that raises your mechanics skill +3 for a few minutes,was enough for me to open everything on level 9,think I found it on level 8 or 9 as well.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
13,990
180
106
Well another Trial of Iron run trashed and gone for all time now. This might start to turn into tear inducing if you want to even get that far if anywhere at all. The Skuldr King basically destroyed my whole party although I made some mistakes and got Aloth knocked out early which meant the start of the end for my character. Was not that far from actually winning the fight which just makes it all the more sad and frustrating.
 

pathos

Senior member
Aug 12, 2009
461
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Well another Trial of Iron run trashed and gone for all time now. This might start to turn into tear inducing if you want to even get that far if anywhere at all. The Skuldr King basically destroyed my whole party although I made some mistakes and got Aloth knocked out early which meant the start of the end for my character. Was not that far from actually winning the fight which just makes it all the more sad and frustrating.

You know, I've never known whether to admire those that play the "iron" playthroughs in these types of games, or think they are masochists
 
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