Curious how lossless, MP3 users get the files in the first place if you don't buy CD's? Most of my collection isn't available for download at all, and what is available is low bitrate pirate MP3's. No thanks.
You're doing it wrong....
Curious how lossless, MP3 users get the files in the first place if you don't buy CD's? Most of my collection isn't available for download at all, and what is available is low bitrate pirate MP3's. No thanks.
if they are downloading they will be members of invite only torrent sites that specialize in high quality music downloads. and there are a few of them out there
OP is ignorant.
That is all.
Everyone thinks like the OP in some form. People that work in a certain field will kill your first born to defend their industry and paycheck.
Remember how fucking hard it was to open CD's? Try to peel off the cellophane wrapping, then there was that awful sticker covering the top of the case. It took like 10 minutes to open a fucking CD.
I DO NOT miss those days...
1. cds sound better. No question. CD's sound better than MP3's. Beyond that though, like I've found that cds played through my discman sound better than like lossless files sound through my ipod, due to the differences in the DAC.
You were doing it wrong. Take the CD and run the bottom of the case down along the edge of something quickly. Non-rounded counter tops work nicely. Now the cellophane is open along that edge and comes off in 2 seconds. Next take a sharp object and run it along the sticker. Car keys generally work well. I could open a CD in about 5 seconds.
That all depends on the mastering and compression. I have cds that I loved to listen too. Then I got an actual sound system and they are so flat and compressed that I don't listen to them anymore. Its beyond absurd when I can get more dynamic range from Youtube than a large number of cds. As a side note I think there is an underground movement reversing the trend. I am finding a lot of new, small artists who are putting out mp3s, cds, youtube clips with far more range than much larger artists
They still do, to the point that it's sometimes comical. They've had numbers for years showing their sales and royalties shrinking like mad, as if the music industry fell off a cliff in 1999 (the Year of Napster(tm)). Meanwhile, agencies without that agenda, like Neilson, have generally shown YoY growth, though with a few stagnant years from the recession.And RIAA? They fought the change tooth and nail.
And there will be those pirates in the future--you're not going to get rid of them. trying to with zeal only frustrates others, sometimes sending them to piracy, ironically. But, offer a good convenience method to access the content, and don't make it inferior content when you do (or, make it dirt cheap), and people will come. One trend I've noticed, as a gamer, FI, is that several people I know will still pirate games, except those in GoG's catalog. Also, some people that used to pirate games a lot, even though they had the money, now just use Steam, and find the convenience worth the lack of hassle. Not population-wide, and not scientific, I'll grant you. But, offering a better product and/or better service works.We're seeing the same problems now with video, e-books, television, and gaming. The pirates are offering a better product (DRM free, better selection, higher quality encoding, instant availability) compared to the legal alternatives.
Well, I think streaming from a file server is. So there. As long as it's played back in order, without gaps that were not intended between tracks, I'd rather have the convenience of not juggling fragile discs. I've also never owned an iPod, and mentally dislike the syncing paradigm (using a file manager just makes more sense, IMO).I'm not even in the music industry. I'm just saying that I think that in many ways we're destroying ourselves through piracy. I think that for albums, cds are the best way to really experience them.
I think that the world was better when music was all contained on cds. Let me explain why:
1. cds sound better. No question. CD's sound better than MP3's. Beyond that though, like I've found that cds played through my discman sound better than like lossless files sound through my ipod, due to the differences in the DAC.
2. While listening to the cd, you can look through the little booklet, and that contributes to the music listening experience.
3. With CD's, you have like a rube-goldberg-like contraption spinning a disc and giving you music. It's physical.
4. CD's are actually more convenient than MP3 players. MP3 players require you to constantly manage your collection and play musical chairs, deciding which songs to delete off of it to make room for something else. CD's, you just grab one album and listen to it in your car or something.
I can't tell the difference.
Never done that.
The fact that the media is physical has absolutely zero impact on the level of enjoyment I get.
Not sure if serious...
-Eh, a combination of the discman's DAC + superior cd fidelity makes the discman sound better to me than the ipod.
1) Encode an MP3 at 320kpbs, high quality mode. The difference would be quite minimal.I think that the world was better when music was all contained on cds. Let me explain why:
1. cds sound better. No question. CD's sound better than MP3's. Beyond that though, like I've found that cds played through my discman sound better than like lossless files sound through my ipod, due to the differences in the DAC.
Assuming the little booklet includes pictures, lyrics, or anything of value. And it's also one more physical piece of media to either keep track of, or lose. (That's my bias - I much prefer electronic formats to physical media.)2. While listening to the cd, you can look through the little booklet, and that contributes to the music listening experience.
Which is precisely why I prefer having some other format - so I don't have to have a sophisticated digital record player.3. With CD's, you have like a rube-goldberg-like contraption spinning a disc and giving you music. It's physical.
So keep less than 74 minutes of music on your MP3 player. Or put it into folders by album.4. CD's are actually more convenient than MP3 players. MP3 players require you to constantly manage your collection and play musical chairs, deciding which songs to delete off of it to make room for something else. CD's, you just grab one album and listen to it in your car or something.
And the transition away from horses for transportation put a lot of domestic blacksmiths out of business. Markets change. It happens.As for society,
1. CD's provided more jobs and money for creative people than today's piracy-rife digital age. You have people employed as studio techs, the musicians obviously, the people working in record stores and the people working in warehouses, and then there are more people in marketing directing music videos and placing glossy ads.
There's still a limit to how much artistic content a population can consume, so "endless employment" or "endless growth" aren't accurate. And beside that, music tastes change. How many Big Band style musical numbers are on the Top 100 charts these days?2. the creative industries offered the possibility IMO of endless employment. Like, every industry, tends to get so efficient that no one is needed anymore. Like, the first microwaves probably required a lot of highly paid people to design and manufacture them, but as time has gone on and the processes have improved, they need less and less people. Because creative industries don't have an "endpoint" like most of technology, it can be a source of endless growth and jobs. I'm willing to bet that if digital technology hadn't decimated the creative industries, unemployment in the USA would be like 1-2% lower.
And if large organizations in that industry were able to find any way of offshoring their profits to avoid taxes, they would do it in an instant.3. Creative industries are also overwhelmingly domestic, while nowadays, most of the profit (and tax revenue) is being captured by tech giants and asian electronics manufacturers.
Many people don't feel that they should need to pay for each device they want to listen with - in the car, at the computer, while out jogging...a person purchased the music, not the device. Let the person, the paying customer, listen to it wherever they want to.So yeah, there it is. Another thing is that I don't quite get why people get so huffy about their "fair use" rights. Seriously. Is it really a big deal if you have 2-3 copies of the same work of art?
The same number I've met while shopping for CDs.1. music stores: they also provide community (how many people have you met while shopping on itunes?). Amazon would be a problem, but reduced rate isn't near as big a problem as absolutely free.
And you've got more domestic artists now who are directly distributing their content over the Internet. If they had to go to the trouble of pressing CDs, or distributing cheap CD-R copies, they probably wouldn't do that at all.3. Domestic production is creative technical work. As someone who is on a technology site, I'd think you'd appreciate a lot of the craftsmanship that audio engineers do.
A Wikipedia entry need not be "dry." And it can also contain a lot more information than a booklet - or it can even contain links to the musician's site.You seriously think reading some dry wikipedia entry is better than looking at an album booklet?
And the early/cheap car CD players had very little buffer memory, so each bump would result in a skip. If you've ever driven on a highway in Pennsylvania, the bumps would often prevent the CD player from even being able to get going again properly, and it would just get switched off. It wasn't until they started putting much larger memory buffers in there that they were really usable. (Early ones would boast perhaps 3 seconds of buffer memory. It quickly progressed to >60 seconds, as memory got cheaper.)I was with you until this point. CDs are ungood for the car. Prior to long trips you have to agonize for days trying to decide which to bring and which to leave behind. With a <insert flavor of your choosing here> player you can take your entire music collection with you. I agree with your points on sound quality but to steal a Steven Wright quote "I drive way too fast to worry about sound quality". Add the risk of warping your CDs in the Summer heat and CDs are best left at home.
Try 1Mbps FLAC. I'll let you guess at the specifications of the recordings.
if they are downloading they will be members of invite only torrent sites that specialize in high quality music downloads. and there are a few of them out there
High bitrate mp3 + line out adaptor for iPhone + headphone amp + sennhieser HD555.
You're doing it wrong....
Also, to be fair, this was not entirely the case, at first. Many initial transfers to CDs, especially of popular music, kinda sucked. The early Black Sabbath and Jethro Tull albums, FI, might very well sound better on well-treated vinyl, than their initial CD releases. As it got to be more widely known, Warner, Sony, and others (Rhino, FI) started doing quality re-transfers and re-masters by the mid 90s. It's not that the technology was that bad, but they were so sold on it being just perfect, that they did total hack jobs of transferring the recordings.I find his reasoning a bit obtuse. CD's (while they were better quality than vinyl)
Also, to be fair, this was not entirely the case, at first. Many initial transfers to CDs, especially of popular music, kinda sucked. The early Black Sabbath and Jethro Tull albums, FI, might very well sound better on well-treated vinyl, than their initial CD releases. As it got to be more widely known, Warner, Sony, and others (Rhino, FI) started doing quality re-transfers and re-masters by the mid 90s. It's not that the technology was that bad, but they were so sold on it being just perfect, that they did total hack jobs of transferring the recordings.
Other tan that little nitpick, and my multiple copies of several albums on CD , carry on...