Yup. That was my biggest disappoint going digital from vinyl. CD booklet? Why bother? It's a piece of shit compared to record packaging.
lol at the little booklet, if we're going with that then CDs blow compared to LP vinyl records where real classic artwork and packaging ruled. From Cheech and Chong's Big Bamboo with the huge rolling paper insert, Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick with a complete fake newspaper as part of the album cover, The Rolling Stone's Their Satanic Majesties Request with the 3D art cover, Blind Faith's album with the topless girl holding a silver spaceship, to name just a couple of the incredible number of creative album covers that records used to come in.
I find his reasoning a bit obtuse. CD's (while they were better quality than vinyl) were cumbersome and annoying overall. For a short time, yes I missed the artwork, but you get over it because what it comes down to is the music. Why do you think MP3 caught on so fast? A single managed place for all your music. I find 192/256 to be ok depending on the music, and 320 just great.
It's all about mobility and catering to personal preferences. If you can't or are unwilling to do this, you will fail.
Oh, and there's a simple solution to piracy. Quit making products. If it bothers people that much, then quit putting your stuff out there. It's not like piracy suddenly just popped up in the last 10 years. Before you get all "well but omg ppl can do it so much easier these days" remember that these people also have a larger customer base and sell exponentially more now than they did 20 years ago. Piracy isn't hurting the industry nearly as much as they try to let on. It's a crutch. All these companies going under are going under due to mismanagement, not lack of money. Their upper people are getting paid just fine.
Yup. That was my biggest disappoint going digital from vinyl. CD booklet? Why bother? It's a piece of shit compared to record packaging.
Eh, all things considered it's what I prefer. I grew up after vinyl and never got into it.
But CD's do objectively provide better sound than mp3, or (IMO) Vinyl, and you still get a package with the band's artwork.
but it's simply not better quality than MP3, i dont understand how you say that, my setup on my desktop or my phone would kill almost any CD player.
Uh, no, cd is better than mp3. That's an objective fact. MP3 starts with the cd and then takes away audio information. So of course cd is better.
Well ultimately it would depend on how the music was originally recorded and mastered.
Uh, no, cd is better than mp3. That's an objective fact. MP3 starts with the cd and then takes away audio information. So of course cd is better.
Your setup is subjective. I have a vintage discman, not even a good one, and IMO it's SQ is better than the ipod touch I own.
The higher the bit rate the higher the quality. LPs have an infinite bit rate that is much smoother than digital if the original recording is analog.
Scratching my head at that...mp3's can be the same quality as CD. Your brain is tricking you into thinking otherwise, or you're listening to bad quality MP3's
I am getting the impression that audio recording is decreasing in quality now that artists know that most people are just listening to it on ipods. With so much piracy of studio albums, it's not really worth it for many to pore over small details in the sound.
No, they cannot. As I said, they take away audio quality, even 320kbs. Furthermore, there are inherent audio artifacts and limitations of mp3's that are always present.
eventually you get used to it, but when you compare to a cd, the difference does become apparent IMO.
which is why i have a growing LP collection
If i take a recording directly from the band in a studio, master it, save it as a FLAC and play it on my computer i can guarantee you it will be better than your shitty CD, alright?
yes mastering makers a ton of difference and a poorly mastered track will sound like crap in any format
however a properly mastered CD will sound better then a MP3 taken from that CD as the MP3 tosses away some information. Im not really sure how anyone can argue against that fact
and yes direct master rips sound better vs CDs when taken directly from master -> flac - however seeing as 99.9% of the people out there don't nor ever will have access to them its a moot point
With a good turntable, proper grounding, good phono amp, and a good cartridge, it will sound so much smoother than i am betting most setups you have heard.I never warmed to LP's. The scratches were too annoying.
With a good turntable, proper grounding, good phono amp, and a good cartridge, it will sound so much smoother than i am betting most setups you have heard.
Records wear out. Regardless of how they sound new, they get worse over time. I had records I played a lot that literally had instruments disappear. It happened slowly so I didn't notice it, but the difference was stunning when I got the CD of the same album.
It's perception then that matters. Yes, MP3 does throw away information. But it is (ideally) information that you wouldn't be able to perceive in the first place. So another way of looking at it is that the CD is wasting space on data that the end user is incapable of sensing, like selling someone a rug that's dyed with a color that human eyes can't see.yes mastering makers a ton of difference and a poorly mastered track will sound like crap in any format
however a properly mastered CD will sound better then a MP3 taken from that CD as the MP3 tosses away some information. Im not really sure how anyone can argue against that fact
and yes direct master rips sound better vs CDs when taken directly from master -> flac - however seeing as 99.9% of the people out there don't nor ever will have access to them its a moot point
It's perception then that matters. Yes, MP3 does throw away information. But it is (ideally) information that you wouldn't be able to perceive in the first place. So another way of looking at it is that the CD is wasting space on data that the end user is incapable of sensing, like selling someone a rug that's dyed with a color that human eyes can't see.
This thread is getting me thinking about hooking up an optical drive, and testing some CDs with different bitrates/formats. Bagpipes really have me interested, because they lose a lot of high end harmonics. My early rips were noticeably inferior to the CD, but I couldn't even guess what I ripped them at. I didn't know what I was doing, and experimented with a few formats/bitrates. I've settled on ogg and mp3. I do ogg if I rip/convert myself, but will tolerate mp3 since the format's so ubiquitous.
This thread is getting me thinking about hooking up an optical drive, and testing some CDs with different bitrates/formats. Bagpipes really have me interested, because they lose a lot of high end harmonics. My early rips were noticeably inferior to the CD, but I couldn't even guess what I ripped them at. I didn't know what I was doing, and experimented with a few formats/bitrates. I've settled on ogg and mp3. I do ogg if I rip/convert myself, but will tolerate mp3 since the format's so ubiquitous.