Pistons Vs. Pacers

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May 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow detroit fans just have no class...

How would you have acted if you seen at least three athletes beating up random people they *thought* did them wrong, or got in their way? Should they have been blowing the team kisses as they left? Artest ran into the seats like a mad man and set his eyes on some kid, whether he did it or not, who knows. I'm pretty sure Artest didn't see the guy who threw the drink.

Then another fan throws a drink in Artest's face as Artest beats the crap out of the kid he thought threw the drink. And another Pacer starts beating the crap out of the other fan. And O'Neil absolutely sucker punches a guy who was already being restrained. The guy had no way of knowing he was about to get drilled in the jaw by this pro athlete.

I'm sorry if I don't share you conclusion. I would of been throwing stuff on the Pacer team as well.
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Ok, a bit of gossip....

A relative of mine owns a company that deals with the company that owns the pacers... deals with the pacers a lot.

And Artest has been called to the carpet quite often over the last few weeks flown into meetings with the NBA with threats of dropping him.


He has a guaranteed conract. They can't do anything (at least before this fight) without the players union on them like a dog.

Heck, when Vin Baker broke the rules of his agreement with the Celtics and lapsed back into drinking (he is/was an alcoholic), they still had to agree to pay a good portion of his contract as a buy out (they couldn't just cut him).

Well, I don't know anything about it.. I just know that the company I mention is the company that provides all the transportation for them to get from IN to these meetings... and they are always talking in the car.... He has been pulled up into the carpet quite frequently ... I don't know about contracts...sorry.
 

venk

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
wow, JUST WOW

the NBA is now just a bunch of thugs who think they are hot sh!t when they go 8 for 24 from the field with 6 turnovers

I know beggars can't be choosers, but does anybody have the whole clip while it was happening live? I want to hear the announcers, etc.

Thanks for the clip schlong!

seconded. Thanks!
 

Weeeman

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Originally posted by: mpitts
I can not believe that I am hearing the guys from ESPN's halftime show

They are basically saying it is OK to climb into the stands and fight with fans. Because it was in the "heat of the moment" and the players had "lots of frustration that had built up during the game."

OK, the Pacers were up by 15 and there was less than 1 minute to go in the game.

Unbelievable.


How is this any differant than what happened to milton bradly is what I want to know. But THAT was his fault.
 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: SALvation
Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow detroit fans just have no class...

Yep. The actions of a few clearly speak for the millions of others. :roll:

I just watched the vid on espn, and its not just few, it was almost the WHOLE fan


 

z0mb13

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow detroit fans just have no class...

wow people from california make knee-jerk generalizations...

turn on espn, and look at the "fans" that threw beer and junk into the pacers team

 

z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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oh and what I mean is not all detroit people, just those that were involved in this thing

 

Weeeman

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OH ShlT

I just watched a slow mo replay of it all on espn.


Someone throws a fcking chair
 

Weeeman

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Also, did artest go after the wrong fan after the beer got chucked? He sure looked innocent compared to everyone else.
 

froke

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I've got a vid cap of the whole scene plus a slo-mo replay with details and comments...if anyone has some bandwidth to spare, I can hook it up. PM me
 

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
Also, did artest go after the wrong fan after the beer got chucked? He sure looked innocent compared to everyone else.

I think he got the wrong guy..

 

poopaskoopa

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Ben Wallace should be suspended for being a crybaby, Stephen Jackson should be suspended even longer for being a thug. About Artest, I'm not sure. It was an unnecessary foul, but I've been fouled harder, and I wish Wallace had sucked it up, but I guess Artest should get whatever penalty that comes with the most severe flagrant foul. It's too bad that these "fans" can't be put into a small room with the players to go one-on-one.

I have to side with the players when they react to people throwing stuff at them, assuming that they're going after the right guy(it's very likely that they're going after the wrong guy, however). It's like at the bars. You talk smack to/pour stuff on another man, you're on your own.
 

Mojoed

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Man, the NBA sure has changed since the glory days of the 80's and 90's. I will not give a dime of my money to this new NBA, until things change. A good portion of them are idiot gangsta's, thugs, or wanna be rappers.
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Ben Wallace should be suspended for being a crybaby, Stephen Jackson should be suspended even longer for being a thug. About Artest, I'm not sure. It was an unnecessary foul, but I've been fouled harder, and I wish Wallace had sucked it up, but I guess Artest should get whatever penalty that comes with the most severe flagrant foul. It's too bad that these "fans" can't be put into a small room with the players to go one-on-one.

I have to side with the players when they react to people throwing stuff at them, assuming that they're going after the right guy(it's very likely that they're going after the wrong guy, however). It's like at the bars. You talk smack to/pour stuff on another man, you're on your own.

How can you say Stephen Jackson deserves to be suspended for being a thug but Artest should only be suspended for his foul? Artest was the one who ran into the stands and tried to beat up a fan.

And I agree that you get what is coming to you if you act like some of the fans at the game did tonight. That being said, you don't walk away scott-free from an incident like this. If you get in a fight at a bar and the cops bust you, you are headed to jail. Why is this any different?
 

jammur21

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That fat guy is going to be one rich fat guy.

Kinda puts the whole "scandal" over the MNF Owens/Housewives skit back in its place.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
lol jermaine o neal got a clear punch to that guy in the white jersey

THat guy was such a fvcking idiot. He tried to make a move on Artest. How dumb can you be.
Fat and slow. A huge Target as well.

Jermaine clocked him good
 
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