Pitbull Rant

[cremator]

Bleh, I just read the post about the guy getting a puppy, he finally got a lab, which is fine, but tons of bad comments about pitbulls in there.

I own 2 pitbulls, one is a new adition to my family, and being so new, he isn't mean or hasn't shown the slightest sign of agression toward me. OF course, he has food agression, but he wasn't treated in the best manner as a younger pup. Lots of media people don't mention small factoids like the owners were setting their dogs on fire and abusing them.

I guess it's pointless to debate the issue with people who don't actually own a pitbull or have never owned one. I didn't own one until about 7 months ago. My first experience was a fearful one though, the owner taught him to bark on command, and he was in my face barking at me. I figured if he attacked me, I'd get a good settlement though, so I just grabbed him and started petting him, the worst he did was lick me too much with his ass breath.

Now I have 2 pitbulls, the older, bigger one being the newest addition to my family, and you can handle him however you want (I picked him up off the ground a few times to train him to get into my car) and have never been attacked, even though he was injured.

I just hate to see people so scared of a dog that was the #1 family pet in the early 1900's, even my neighboors whine and cry and complain when I let my dogs run free in my yard, they assume my dogs are out to kill their kid or something.

Pit dogs in general were bred to fight and kill other dogs, and never harm their master.

That's probally the biggest rant I'll make, but it just sucks how the dog gets such bad press without 100% of the information.
Supurb dog in every aspect, yes they are a fighting dog, but most breeders don't breed to fight.
Great family pet, bad gaurd dog, although it will "attack" if needed to (for instance you were getting hit or attacked by someone else).

If you hate the rant, ignore it, I'm just giving my 2 cents on this great dog.

 

[Modeps]

I refuse to read your post in it's current non-paragraphed format.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

too true

 

[yhelothar]

I agree, I had a pitbull. It was the kindest, cutest dog ever. Much less aggressive than my neighbors' german shepards and labordors. Pitbulls terriers are only aggressive if they are trained to be, and are often trained to be. Though if they are raised as a normal dog, they will be a normal dog. They aren't naturally aggressive.

 

[MisterRaven]

Originally posted by: cremator
Bleh, I just read the post about the guy getting a puppy, he finally got a lab, which is fine, but tons of bad comments about pitbulls in there.

I own 2 pitbulls, one is a new adition to my family, and being so new, he isn't mean or hasn't shown the slightest sign of agression toward me. OF course, he has food agression, but he wasn't treated in the best manner as a younger pup. Lots of media people don't mention small factoids like the owners were setting their dogs on fire and abusing them.

I guess it's pointless to debate the issue with people who don't actually own a pitbull or have never owned one. I didn't own one until about 7 months ago. My first experience was a fearful one though, the owner taught him to bark on command, and he was in my face barking at me. I figured if he attacked me, I'd get a good settlement though, so I just grabbed him and started petting him, the worst he did was lick me too much with his ass breath.

Now I have 2 pitbulls, the older, bigger one being the newest addition to my family, and you can handle him however you want (I picked him up off the ground a few times to train him to get into my car) and have never been attacked, even though he was injured.

I just hate to see people so scared of a dog that was the #1 family pet in the early 1900's, even my neighboors whine and cry and complain when I let my dogs run free in my yard, they assume my dogs are out to kill their kid or something.

Pit dogs in general were bred to fight and kill other dogs, and never harm their master.

That's probally the biggest rant I'll make, but it just sucks how the dog gets such bad press without 100% of the information.
Supurb dog in every aspect, yes they are a fighting dog, but most breeders don't breed to fight.
Great family pet, bad gaurd dog, although it will "attack" if needed to (for instance you were getting hit or attacked by someone else).

If you hate the rant, ignore it, I'm just giving my 2 cents on this great dog.

I have a Pitbull, and I agree with you completely.

 

[cremator]

It's good to know that other people have the breed and agree. I own a very agressive dog, but guess what, its neither of my pitbulls. It's my Chiuahuah. He'll attack any dog, at any time, for any reason. He attacks my pitbull pup (which is like 8 months old now, so he could easily kill my Chiuahuah) and my puppy just acts like they are playing.

 

[ThePresence]

I'm just curious why pitbulls are getting the bad press, not German Sheperds or Rottweilers. There's an expression "Where there's smoke there's fire".

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm just curious why pitbulls are getting the bad press, not German Sheperds or Rottweilers. There's an expression "Where there's smoke there's fire".

Because if trained to be, they can be very dangerous dogs, as opposed to say, a shih tzu. And so idiots who do this will generally pick a pitbull. They can be just as sweet and loving as any other dog if brought up right.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm just curious why pitbulls are getting the bad press, not German Sheperds or Rottweilers. There's an expression "Where there's smoke there's fire".

Because if trained to be, they can be very dangerous dogs, as opposed to say, a shih tzu. And so idiots who do this will generally pick a pitbull. They can be just as sweet and loving as any other dog if brought up right.

You can train a Rottweiler or a Doberman to be quite dangerous too, can't you? So why the bad press just for pitbulls?

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Have you noticed how people are tolerant of their aggressive and dangerous dogs?

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Have you noticed how people are tolerant of their aggressive and dangerous dogs?

Yep, "they wouldn't hurt a flea"

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm just curious why pitbulls are getting the bad press, not German Sheperds or Rottweilers. There's an expression "Where there's smoke there's fire".

Because if trained to be, they can be very dangerous dogs, as opposed to say, a shih tzu. And so idiots who do this will generally pick a pitbull. They can be just as sweet and loving as any other dog if brought up right.

You can train a Rottweiler or a Doberman to be quite dangerous too, can't you? So why the bad press just for pitbulls?

Because most of the ghetto/trailer park resident, borderline retards who do it choose pitbulls. And because the media just loves scare stories for the ratings.

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Have you noticed how people are tolerant of their aggressive and dangerous dogs?

True. There were two first graders in my daughter's school that had scars covering their faces from where pitbulls and rotty's had ravaged their faces.

I'd like to believe it's not the dog's fault, just like I'd like to believe that when kids get arrested it's not their fault. I look to the dog owner's and what wisdom/common sense they might have and the parents of children and what common sense they might have/lack.

In other words, they might be nice dogs, but how do you tell that to the kids that are killed or maimed by them each year?

My adrenalin jets each time I'm approached by any strange dog especially when my kids are with me either walking or cycling. I don't know your dog. I don't know the dog approaching me on the street. I only know I'm responsible for the safety of my kids and I'm gonna do whatever I have to in order to prevent their harm.

perhaps if the owners of these animals would observe leash ordinances and proper care of their potentially dangerous animals, it would make more people feel safe and would diminish the stigma.

 

[Brutuskend]

I agree.

I've met some SWEET pit bulls and my dog Brutus is 1/4 pit and is a big teddy bear!

The problem as I see it is some people have bad attitudes (read they are ass holes) and they get these dogs and either don't train them, or don't train them well or they train them to mirror THEIR assholeitudeness.

This ends up giving the whole breed a bad rep.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Pitbulls terriers are only aggressive if they are trained to be, and are often trained to be. Though if they are raised as a normal dog, they will be a normal dog. They aren't naturally aggressive.

Completely false. All terriers, not just pitbulls, are naturally aggressive towards other dogs, more so than most other kinds of dogs.

I totally agree that good, responsible ownership is the way to keep pitbulls acting like most "normal" dogs, but for pit fans to say that the dogs aren't naturally aggressive, at least toward other dogs, it simply bull....no pun intended.

I tend to believe the saying "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners". For the most part, that is true.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I'm just curious why pitbulls are getting the bad press, not German Sheperds or Rottweilers. There's an expression "Where there's smoke there's fire".

Because if trained to be, they can be very dangerous dogs, as opposed to say, a shih tzu. And so idiots who do this will generally pick a pitbull. They can be just as sweet and loving as any other dog if brought up right.

You can train a Rottweiler or a Doberman to be quite dangerous too, can't you? So why the bad press just for pitbulls?

Because most of the ghetto/trailer park resident, borderline retards who do it choose pitbulls. And because the media just loves scare stories for the ratings.

Not to mention those are the pits that usually get press for attacking people. Same with Rots and Dobies.

 

[Gurck]

Let's not forget we're stereotyping here; for every one pitbull, owned by a moron, that attacks someone leading to a news story - a hundred responsible pitbull owners out there have friendly dogs. The media doesn't report on this latter tidbit though. I'm sure idiots buy smaller dogs too, but an attack-yorkie isn't exactly a public menace

 

[Brutuskend]

Q: Why do some dogs bite?

A: There are many reasons why a dog bites. Dogs bite out of fear or to protect their territory or to establish their dominance over the person bitten. Some owners mistakenly teach their dogs that biting is an acceptable form of play behavior. And every year a number of newborn infants die when they are bitten by dogs who see them as "prey." Because dog bites occur for a variety of reasons, many components of responsible dog ownership?including proper socialization, supervision, humane training, sterilization, and safe confinement?are necessary to prevent biting.

Q: Which dogs most commonly bite? Are some breeds more likely to bite than others?

A: The breeds most commonly involved in both bite injuries and fatalities changes from year to year and from one area of the country to another, depending on the popularity of the breed. Although genetics do play some part in determining whether a dog will bite, other factors such as whether the animal is spayed or neutered, properly socialized, supervised, humanely trained, and safely confined play significantly greater roles. Responsible dog ownership of all breeds is the key to dog bite prevention.

Taken from here

Also.

Which Dogs Bite the Most?

No, its not Dobermans!

German Police Dog

Chow

Poodle

Italian Bull Dog

Fox Terrier

Crossed Chow

Airedale Terrier

Pekinese

Crossed German Police Dog

Taken from here

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Pit Bulls are targeted for the same reason that guns are by the media. They need something to target that "has no concievable non-destructive application". Many dogs are aggressive due to training and/or lack of training. I watched two dogs chase down and kill a fawn behind my house, neither dogs are breeds that are generally considered aggressive. But guess what? The lack of limits by thier owner and no training and they revert to wild dogs that have pack instincts. If it weren't for the fact that you can boot a chihuahua like a soccer ball *queue hilarious video* they'd be one of the most aggressive dogs. I've seen more chihuahuas bark and try to attack people than German Shepards.

 

[phantom309]

You pitbull owners are completely missing the point. Nobody cares how nice your dogs are to YOU, or how much YOU trust them. If I were to go out in public accompanied a three-year-old kid with a loaded shotgun, how much safer would you feel if I told you: "Aww, he's a sweet kid. He wouldn't never hurt no one."?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: phantom309
You pitbull owners are completely missing the point. Nobody cares how nice your dogs are to YOU, or how much YOU trust them. If I were to go out in public accompanied a three-year-old kid with a loaded shotgun, how much safer would you feel if I told you: "Aww, he's a sweet kid. He wouldn't never hurt no one."?

Perfect example of my first sentance.

 

[ndee]

I hate those Killer Dogs. They're instincts are evil, etc. A friend of mine had a Dobermann since the dog was a puppy. One day, the dog just snapped and attacked someone although the dog was threated VERY good by my friend. It's just their instincts to attack.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Pitbulls terriers are only aggressive if they are trained to be, and are often trained to be. Though if they are raised as a normal dog, they will be a normal dog. They aren't naturally aggressive.

Completely false. All terriers, not just pitbulls, are naturally aggressive towards other dogs, more so than most other kinds of dogs.

I totally agree that good, responsible ownership is the way to keep pitbulls acting like most "normal" dogs, but for pit fans to say that the dogs aren't naturally aggressive, at least toward other dogs, it simply bull....no pun intended.

I tend to believe the saying "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners". For the most part, that is true.

I agree.

A good friend of mine has a pitbull. it is really nice to everyone but if it sees another dog it wants to go after it. I have no fear of it attacking us but you never know when it starts to go off.


you never hear off a pug attack because well a pug won't rip your face off. unlike a pitbull.

I agree a good owner will can keep it under check. but to think its as safe as any dog (of course same with other some other breeds) is silly.

 

[Electric Amish]

I currently have a Pit-mix and a Rott-mix. Both are sweet as can be.

I used to have a Rott-St.Bernard mix that ran 200lbs and scared the SH!T out of people. Worst he'd ever do was lay on you and drool.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: ndee
I hate those Killer Dogs. They're instincts are evil, etc. A friend of mine had a Dobermann since the dog was a puppy. One day, the dog just snapped and attacked someone although the dog was threated VERY good by my friend. It's just their instincts to attack.

Actually as I understand it, the problem with Dobbies is their brain keeps growing long after their skull stops growing. This can sometimes cause them to just "loose it".