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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
some dogs can't be domesticated.
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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.
QFT
My GF has one and it's a very good dog. It's rescued, and took some time to get well behaved, but it's a fine dog now. In the beginning all she did was jump up onto the couches, lick you a lot when you walked in the door, etc. -- same with every other dog. They aren't as bad as everyone thinks.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.
All dogs "natural" tendencies are to be aggressive towards anything (like most animals) but the fact of the matter is that it IS how you train them. Sure a poodle can attack too its just that its eaiser to defend yourself against a poodle so it's not as publicized as when a stupid owner's pitbull makes a mistake. It doesn't help that some people have given pitbulls a bad name by labeling them "the fighting dog" and putting them in videos to seem ferocious, etc.
Nature versus nurture.
You can do everything you want to nurture an animal but nothing you do will change its genetic makeup and programmed predispositions.
Should an animal perceive itself to be threatened then no amount of cuddly training or loving environment is going to keep it's insticts from taking over and prevent it from mauling yet another 2 year old child.
Just like how some people are predisposed to remaining stupid despite access to education and thusly continue to put neighbor's children at risk by keeping pitbulls next door. Nature versus nurture.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.
All dogs "natural" tendencies are to be aggressive towards anything (like most animals) but the fact of the matter is that it IS how you train them. Sure a poodle can attack too its just that its eaiser to defend yourself against a poodle so it's not as publicized as when a stupid owner's pitbull makes a mistake. It doesn't help that some people have given pitbulls a bad name by labeling them "the fighting dog" and putting them in videos to seem ferocious, etc.
Ummm I think you are missing the point. Pitbulls, as a species of dogs are naturally MORE agressive than (as your example) a poodle are.
Originally posted by: Josh
The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.
They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. Well, your friendly neighborhood SayUncle compiled the data (available by clicking the more link below) and discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.
http://www.atts.org/statistics.html
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
Why does the media hate pitbulls? Are they republican supporters?
Originally posted by: Josh
The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.
They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. IT was discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.
http://www.atts.org/statistics.html