Pitbull sodomizes 2yr old

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"...details of this story of deeply disturbing..."

Ok... and where are these details? I really don't understand how this 'act' occurred. Kinda curious, but don't really want to know. Regardless, nice choice of dog. Hate those pieces of sh!t, especially the owners who let them run rampant and don't know how to take care of them.
 

ThePresence

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This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.
 

Spineshank

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I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.

You almost had me responding MUCH differently until your last 4 words...
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Why does the media hate pitbulls? Are they republican supporters?
 

CraKaJaX

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.

My GF has one at her house and it's a very good dog. It's rescued, and took some time to get well behaved, but it's a fine dog now. In the beginning all she did was jump up onto the couches, lick you a lot when you walked in the door, etc. -- same with every other dog. They aren't as bad as everyone thinks.
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
some dogs can't be domesticated.

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You guys are really fucking stupid and are prejudice and clueless to the truth. I have a red nose pitbull who is the most affectionate, loving dog in the world. She listens to my commands, plays with children, has never even opened its mouth to somebody and just enjoys the attention of any human being that she sees. These abused dogs who attack people are just that; abused, untrained, and neglected dogs. Put any dog in that type of situation and I guarentee it attacks, pitbulls are just more publicized because they are stronger of most of the dogs (German Shepards I believe are actaully #1 in attacks in the country that result in serious injury/death)
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.

QFT

My GF has one and it's a very good dog. It's rescued, and took some time to get well behaved, but it's a fine dog now. In the beginning all she did was jump up onto the couches, lick you a lot when you walked in the door, etc. -- same with every other dog. They aren't as bad as everyone thinks.

re-read his post please
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.

All dogs "natural" tendencies are to be aggressive towards anything (like most animals) but the fact of the matter is that it IS how you train them. Sure a poodle can attack too its just that its eaiser to defend yourself against a poodle so it's not as publicized as when a stupid owner's pitbull makes a mistake. It doesn't help that some people have given pitbulls a bad name by labeling them "the fighting dog" and putting them in videos to seem ferocious, etc.
 

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.

Nature versus nurture.

You can do everything you want to nurture an animal but nothing you do will change its genetic makeup and programmed predispositions.

Should an animal perceive itself to be threatened then no amount of cuddly training or loving environment is going to keep it's insticts from taking over and prevent it from mauling yet another 2 year old child.

Just like how some people are predisposed to remaining stupid despite access to education and thusly continue to put neighbor's children at risk by keeping pitbulls next door. Nature versus nurture.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.

All dogs "natural" tendencies are to be aggressive towards anything (like most animals) but the fact of the matter is that it IS how you train them. Sure a poodle can attack too its just that its eaiser to defend yourself against a poodle so it's not as publicized as when a stupid owner's pitbull makes a mistake. It doesn't help that some people have given pitbulls a bad name by labeling them "the fighting dog" and putting them in videos to seem ferocious, etc.

Ummm I think you are missing the point. Pitbulls, as a species of dogs are naturally MORE agressive than (as your example) a poodle are.
 

Homerboy

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Nature versus nurture.

You can do everything you want to nurture an animal but nothing you do will change its genetic makeup and programmed predispositions.

Should an animal perceive itself to be threatened then no amount of cuddly training or loving environment is going to keep it's insticts from taking over and prevent it from mauling yet another 2 year old child.

Just like how some people are predisposed to remaining stupid despite access to education and thusly continue to put neighbor's children at risk by keeping pitbulls next door. Nature versus nurture.

Perfectly worded
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Sigfried and Roy have lions that are friendly too. However, they tend to be a bit more aggressive in their nature don't ya think? Sure any animal can be "trained" to be friendly and docile, but that simply doesn't mean that their natural tendencies are not prone towards aggressiveness.

All dogs "natural" tendencies are to be aggressive towards anything (like most animals) but the fact of the matter is that it IS how you train them. Sure a poodle can attack too its just that its eaiser to defend yourself against a poodle so it's not as publicized as when a stupid owner's pitbull makes a mistake. It doesn't help that some people have given pitbulls a bad name by labeling them "the fighting dog" and putting them in videos to seem ferocious, etc.

Ummm I think you are missing the point. Pitbulls, as a species of dogs are naturally MORE agressive than (as your example) a poodle are.


Ohhhh is that right? Because you are smarter than actual people who test dog's temperments for a living right??

The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.

They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. IT was discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Josh
The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.

They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. Well, your friendly neighborhood SayUncle compiled the data (available by clicking the more link below) and discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

Here's the difference: When a Golden Retriever DOES go crazy, it might bark loudly and or make some aggressive moves in extreme cases. A pitbull will maul someone. I'm not saying they are prone to flipping out, but when they do it's dangerous.
 

spaceman

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i ever i catch a pitbull in my yard..im hoping and praying.
i will trap it, mutilate it beyond recognition and feed the peices to the fishercat we have living in the sewer.
 

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Here its actually illegal to have pit bulls now, because of too many accidents. i still think the owners are 99% to blame though. Pitbulls may be aggressive by nature but thats why they should be tied at all times and kept away from children or elderly. They should also be treated properly (as with any pet). Someone who abuses their dog will make the dog aggressive. A happy pet should be less likely to want to hurt someone.

What I hate to see is when they put down a dog after an accident. Its not the dog's fault. They don't realize the extent of what they did.
 

Spineshank

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I know a bunch of people with pitbulls and they are friendly as any other dog. Its just what the media wants to put out there. If it was another dog they probably wouldnt be all over it.

Why does the media hate pitbulls? Are they republican supporters?

Because Pitballs are notorious for being dangerous dogs because of how they can be trained to be so.
 

broon

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Originally posted by: Josh

The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.

They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. IT was discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

I believe this man speaks the truth. If a dog is mean/aggressive, they were conditioned to be that way.
 
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