Pitbull sodomizes 2yr old

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James Bond

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Josh
The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.

They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. Well, your friendly neighborhood SayUncle compiled the data (available by clicking the more link below) and discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

Here's the difference: When a Golden Retriever DOES go crazy, it might bark loudly and or make some aggressive moves in extreme cases. A pitbull will maul someone. I'm not saying they are prone to flipping out, but when they do it's dangerous.

O rly?
Max The Dog Put Down After Mauling Another Child

'"On arrival, we had a 7-year-old male suffering from severe facial and skull lacerations as a result of the bite to the left side of his head and skull," said police Sgt. David Schepis. "He was talking, he was responsive but it appeared that the child was in great pain."

Police said the boy was rushed by ambulance to Waterbury Hospital. He was badly mauled and will need extensive cosmetic surgery'

Uhh, you find one article of a Golden Retriever attacking from 2005, and you think that proves that they are as dangerous?

Wake up.

POSTED: 12:19 am EST March 11, 2005

Edit:

All you did here was help prove everyones point: You can raise a dog to be a good or bad dog, but in the end, you never really have *full* control over any animal. Because of that, they will sometimes have their instincts kick in--with pitbulls, that can be a very gruesome event.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Josh
The American Temperament Test Society seeks to evaluate the temperaments of dogs using a standardized test. They have a description of the test that details the situations that they put dogs in. Now, there are obviously some issues with the tests, such as judgment of the judges, the relative excitability of each dog when undergoing a test (they know something is going on), and the type of person to submit their dog to such a test probably thinks that their dog is fairly well-behaved.

They also list the percentage of dogs that pass and fail the tests based on breed. Well, your friendly neighborhood SayUncle compiled the data (available by clicking the more link below) and discovered that based on relative temperament as percentage of pass or fail, pit bulls came in 116th out 202 breeds for having bad temperaments. A Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a pit bull. In fact, a pit bull is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever.

http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

Here's the difference: When a Golden Retriever DOES go crazy, it might bark loudly and or make some aggressive moves in extreme cases. A pitbull will maul someone. I'm not saying they are prone to flipping out, but when they do it's dangerous.

O rly?
Max The Dog Put Down After Mauling Another Child

'"On arrival, we had a 7-year-old male suffering from severe facial and skull lacerations as a result of the bite to the left side of his head and skull," said police Sgt. David Schepis. "He was talking, he was responsive but it appeared that the child was in great pain."

Police said the boy was rushed by ambulance to Waterbury Hospital. He was badly mauled and will need extensive cosmetic surgery'

Uhh, you find one article of a Golden Retriever attacking from 2005, and you think that proves that they are as dangerous?

Wake up.

POSTED: 12:19 am EST March 11, 2005

Edit:

All you did here was help prove everyones point: You can raise a dog to be a good or bad dog, but in the end, you never really have *full* control over any animal. Because of that, they will sometimes have their instincts kick in--with pitbulls, that can be a very gruesome event.

Here are a few more. And the point that you can raising a dog is the important factor is exactly the point I was going for. It can also be gruesome with just about any dog over 40lbs, chows, goldens, labs, danes, mastiffs, rots, shepherds, mixes. Smaller dogs can do a number on a child as well.

03/07


03/07

01/07
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: fLum0x
the dog ran and the kid was still "attached" .........

wtf?!
you need a diagram?

seriously, this is fooked up any way you look at it.

yea the whole dog sodomy thing is really fscked up. I'm trying to forget that I read it.
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
This has nothing to do with pitbulls, it has to do with training. Pitbulls by nature are warm, cuddly pets. Some idiots train them to be aggressive. This post was sarcasm.


..back yard breeders have ruined the breed. They have mated the most agressive dogs resulting in a dog that is uncontrolable and a hazard to the owner and community. Pitbulls are a huge litigation hazard. Many insurance co.will not renew home owner policies or will greatly limit their liability with high deductables and exclusions. Animal shelters are overloaded with pitbulls due to this change in insurance restriction. Many legal firms specialize in dog bite litigation. If you own a home or personal property and own a pitbull your risk of litigation is large.

 

Alistar7

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May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: BUTCH1
We have a female pit, fixed. Got her @6 months of age from neighbor's son who was going to bring her to
the pound. Recently she has shown some signs of aggression (growling) at strangers when I walk her, she
is now 2 yrs. old. The dog adores me and my wife but I'm afraid I might have to have her put down if this
continues. We have tried to socialize her as much as possible but it's difficult as no one wants to get near
a pit. I am heartbroken about what I must consider doing, we always have her on a leash and she is basically
a housedog but we're afraid she might get out and at someone one day......

Have you tried having the dog professionally trained?
 

hemiram

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Mar 16, 2005
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My Dachshund was way beyond yapping and snarling, he bit everyone in the house, except me, several times. My dad got snarled at on a nightly basis when he tried to move him off his bed so he could get into it. He got bit at least once month for the 4 years we had him before his kidneys went bad. We all blubbered when he went.

My pit mix on the other hand was 75 pounds with teeth the size of my thumbs, never started a fight in his life, and even when he was attacked, it took a sustained attack to make him retaliate. Once that point was crossed, he would fight in the classic Pitbull manner, shaking the hell out of the other dog, while being almost totally silent. All you would hear was him "huffing", and the other dog, usually making a lot of noise at that point, of course.

At least NYC is sane about Pits, unlike our local Dog Warden, who is nationally infamous for his anti-pit hysteria. If I move out of this county, I will be looking at Pits or Pit mixes for my next dogs.
 

hemiram

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Mar 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
I personally own a potbellied pig and i would bet he could beat the crap out of a pitbull.

LOL, if he was hungry enough to get up, maybe he would fight the dog for food!

My friend had one for like 15 years. My Pit mix loved him. He would run up to him and the pig would lie down and my dog would lick his ears and face. He would make that happy "grunt" noise the entire time he was being licked. If my dog stopped before he was ready, the screaming would begin until he started again.

The damn thing made insane noises anytime he got the slightest bit upset about anything. One time he cut himself on something outside, and I helped take him to the vet, and his screetching getting him into my friend's truck was bad enough, but when we got to the vet and he knew where he was, he really turned it on! When we got him inside, he shut up, and visited the girls working behind the counter for a while, then screamed through the entire 3 stitches he got, shut up and visited the girls again, then went off the deep end when he got put in the truck again. We got him some frozen yogurt, and that shut him up totally, and he was pretty quiet all the way home. Sometimes, I would be talking to my friend when "Harold" would want to get fed, or go out, and he would start shreiking so loudly my friend couldn't hear me. A lot of the time one little piece of candy or bread would shut him down like he popped a breaker, but sometimes he was unstoppable.

He died suddenly of an aneuyrism a few years ago, and the neighborhood kids were devastated. When my friend builds his new house next year, he is going to get two of them.
His Lab pups will be a little over a year by then, and they will have a great time with baby pigs.
 

Kwaipie

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an AR-15 and a silver plated handgun are both lethal, one was designed to look pretty, the other was designed for killing.

A pomeranian was designed to look pretty, a pit bull terrier was designed to kill.

Simple really.
 

Joemonkey

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Mar 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?
 

krunchykrome

Lifer
Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?

Honestly, my understanding of what the word meant was a little different from the definition you provided.

Either way, it is almost an unbelievable thing to happen; that's why I had to question what actually happened to the boy.
 

CKent

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Aug 17, 2005
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Pitbulls probably are more aggressive than most breeds, and more dangerous when they are aggressive. While it doesn't help that the dumbest members of our society breed and train them for aggression, it seems obvious that other breeds are simply less likely to be aggressive, and small breeds in particular are far less dangerous when aggressive. I just can't see a chihuahua shredding someone to pieces (alhough it would make an awesome video).

As our society slowly and inexorably gets dumber, most people support stripping away our rights to protect us from ourselves. Perhaps I'm biased because I'm not droolingly stupid, but I see a problem with that and feel that while there's no perfect solution, the best option is to allow some dangers in our society. While it might seem cruel to weed out the weak, the alternative is far more harmful in the long run. In short, who the fuck was watching the kid?
 

Joemonkey

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Mar 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?

I was just pointing out that your link does not have any mention of oral. I am having a hard time figuring out the physics of a dog running away with a child somehow "attached" at either hole and the child not being able to get away.
 

Kwaipie

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Nov 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?

I was just pointing out that your link does not have any mention of oral. I am having a hard time figuring out the physics of a dog running away with a child somehow "attached" at either hole and the child not being able to get away.

I guess you don't understand what happens when a male dog mates. The head of his member engorges, attaching itself to the female. You've never seen two dogs stuck together mating?
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?

I was just pointing out that your link does not have any mention of oral. I am having a hard time figuring out the physics of a dog running away with a child somehow "attached" at either hole and the child not being able to get away.

I guess you don't understand what happens when a male dog mates. The head of his member engorges, attaching itself to the female. You've never seen two dogs stuck together mating?

Ayup.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I still don't understand what happened to the boy. What did the pit bull do?
i think you just want to hear someone say it.
how hard is it to look up the word sodomize if you don't understand it?

http://www.answers.com/sodomize&r=67

It's not just that hole. From here

"The most widely used definition of sodomy is any form of oral sex (where a person?s mouth comes into contact with the genitals or anus of another person) and/or anal intercourse."

what do you mean "not just that hole". the link i provided said among other things: "practice anal sex upon". i'm thinking that is what the dog did?

I was just pointing out that your link does not have any mention of oral. I am having a hard time figuring out the physics of a dog running away with a child somehow "attached" at either hole and the child not being able to get away.

I guess you don't understand what happens when a male dog mates. The head of his member engorges, attaching itself to the female. You've never seen two dogs stuck together mating?

yeap i was going to post that. they have a "knob" that keeps the dog in while mateing.

 

hemiram

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Originally posted by: CatKillaZ
It could be. It would be ignorant of me to argue with you with no personal experience of pitbulls. There are not many dogs/animals I would trust alone with a 2 yr old

My Pit mix loved kids, as long as they didn't scream into his ears. If they did, he wanted to leave. NOW. My friend's kid came over once, and put him in a headlock and screamed into his ear. He just shook the kid off, and went to bed. Once we got it through to the kid that he shouldn't do it, he was fine and had a good time playing with that kid.

We aren't sure exactly when it started, but my friends had a female pit bull, that was sneaking into their baby's bedroom and climbing into her crib and sleeping with her. She would jump in when the baby was awake, but when they went to bed, they thought the dog was sleeping in her dog bed. She would sneak into the kid's room, climb up on the table next to the bed and jump in, and go to sleep, and get up when she heard any activity from the parents.

One night, my friend went into check on the baby, who almost never cried at night when he went to the bathroom. The dog was on her back, passed out, with the kid sleeping next to her.When people found out about it, they went nuts, saying, "OMG, that's crazy, the dog will kill the kid some night, you can't let her sleep in the crib with her!" Well, judging by the claw marks on the back of the table where she jumped up, she had been sleeping in the bed from not too long after the baby came home.

My friend and his wife decided to keep the dog out. It lasted a couple days, the dog whimpered all night, and the baby wailed all night asking for the dog, and they just decided to make them both happy and let her sleep with the kid. I don't know if it's the dog sleeping with her or not, but that kid almost never gets sick. She even dodged the ear infections and a lot of the colds kids usually get.

That kid and the dog still sleep together every night, except there is another Pit, a male pup, in a queen sized bed with her now, and the daughter is almost 9 now. Both those dogs worship her, and my friend's never have to worry about the daughter being kidnapped or molested, as long as one of them is alive. The kid's own grandmother came into the room and tried to pick her up, it was the first time she had seen her in person, and the dog wouldn't let her take the kid out of the bed! She wasn't kidding around. Once she got to know the grandmother, everything was fine.

The older dog and the pup really are great with kids, I would trust them completely with a little kid.
 

Captante

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Oct 20, 2003
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While any poorly trained large dog can be aggressive & attack causing severe injury to even a full-sized adult human, whatever the reason is it does
seem that Pit Bulls are involved in the vast majority of serious attacks.

I've been attacked 4 times while out walking my dog (100lb German Shepherd) & all 4 times it was a Pit-Bull, further if I hadn't had my own large dog there to protect me I might have been badly injured in any of the incidents... of course its also possible the Pits wouldn't even have come after me if I wasn't with my dog because the breed tends to be very aggressive towards other dogs more then towards humans.

Bottom line is that while its a shame that the entire breed has to pay the price for idiot owners, there are just too many incidents of them attacking children, pets etc to ignore or dismiss.

 

DaShen

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Dec 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Imp
"...details of this story of deeply disturbing..."

Ok... and where are these details? I really don't understand how this 'act' occurred. Kinda curious, but don't really want to know. Regardless, nice choice of dog. Hate those pieces of sh!t, especially the owners who let them run rampant and don't know how to take care of them.

Pitbulls can be very great dogs if trained right. They are more territorial, but so are German Shepherds. If you train them right, they can be great pets, but they have this stigma already and only people who want an aggressive dog decide to buy them and raise them because they want a dog like that. I think they should do background checks the same as guns with dogs and animals in general, but that is just IMO.
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Ouch, he's probably traumatized for life.

You don't remember anything before the age of three, so if the parents don't mention it he might be socially OK.
 
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