Pixel 2 Stuff

[sze5003]

Plenty people checked them out in the Verizon stores and they didn't see any issues like people are complaining about on the internet. Not something you should be looking for. If you use the phone for 5 - 10 days and then you notice it and it bothers you, sure return it.

I bet it's not noticeable if it's not something you are looking for.

 

[Trader05]

Plenty people checked them out in the Verizon stores and they didn't see any issues like people are complaining about on the internet. Not something you should be looking for. If you use the phone for 5 - 10 and then you notice it and it bothers you, sure return it.

I bet it's not noticeable if it's not something you are looking for.

Agreed. Its just crazy how people will prematurely nitpick and return just because its getting some negatives on the internet instead of just using it to their liking.

 

[mnewsham]

I think it's a perfectly fair to nit-pick when you can get an S8/S8+ or Note8 with a flawless panel in comparison. Assuming you don't need vanilla android in your life I can't understand why you'd allow such an obvious hardware defect to be acceptable on an $800+ device.

When nexus's were in the $300-400 range. Sure you can get away with cutting corners. But when you're one of the most expensive flaghship devices of the year I think it's a perfectly valid complaint to have.

And hey, if it doesn't bother you, enjoy the phone i've heard it great software. But this seems like a perfectly acceptable thing to be nit-picking, especially considering what's available from others for less or similar price.

 

[sze5003]

I think it's a perfectly fair to nit-pick when you can get an S8/S8+ or Note8 with a flawless panel in comparison. Assuming you don't need vanilla android in your life I can't understand why you'd allow such an obvious hardware defect to be acceptable on an $800+ device.

When nexus's were in the $300-400 range. Sure you can get away with cutting corners. But when you're one of the most expensive flaghship devices of the year I think it's a perfectly valid complaint to have.

And hey, if it doesn't bother you, enjoy the phone i've heard it great software. But this seems like a perfectly acceptable thing to be nit-picking, especially considering what's available from others for less or similar price.

I don't think it should be acceptable for the price. But if you don't like Samsung and their software it's a compromise I suppose. But if I had not read any articles or reddit complaints I would not have known to look for it.

All oled panels have some sort of rainbow effect and the screen is polarized also so you can see it better with sunglasses.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Reading different reviews, none of them have had the screen issues that V30 reviews/owners have been having. The screen may have muted colors but it seems more like a decision made by LG/Google and it appears there's an option to enhance it. Will get my phone tomorrow and let you know what I observe.

 

[Red Storm]

I think it's a perfectly fair to nit-pick when you can get an S8/S8+ or Note8 with a flawless panel in comparison. Assuming you don't need vanilla android in your life I can't understand why you'd allow such an obvious hardware defect to be acceptable on an $800+ device.

When nexus's were in the $300-400 range. Sure you can get away with cutting corners. But when you're one of the most expensive flaghship devices of the year I think it's a perfectly valid complaint to have.

And hey, if it doesn't bother you, enjoy the phone i've heard it great software. But this seems like a perfectly acceptable thing to be nit-picking, especially considering what's available from others for less or similar price.

It's no different than nitpicking issues from another OEM. Let's say Samsung. I had an S8+, it worked great, then a few months in I start seeing the same tell tale slow downs that I have always experienced with every Samsung phone I've ever had. To me, it's ridiculous that such an expensive phone would start to exhibit hiccups in performance, not to mention the slowness to release updates. It is for those reasons that I am getting the Pixel 2 XL. I already knew going in the display on the PXL2 was not going to be as good as the Note 8, which is the best in the business, but I also have seen the display in person and it's not bad at all. Not a defect, simply not as good.

 

[shadowx360]

I think it's a perfectly fair to nit-pick when you can get an S8/S8+ or Note8 with a flawless panel in comparison. Assuming you don't need vanilla android in your life I can't understand why you'd allow such an obvious hardware defect to be acceptable on an $800+ device.

When nexus's were in the $300-400 range. Sure you can get away with cutting corners. But when you're one of the most expensive flaghship devices of the year I think it's a perfectly valid complaint to have.

And hey, if it doesn't bother you, enjoy the phone i've heard it great software. But this seems like a perfectly acceptable thing to be nit-picking, especially considering what's available from others for less or similar price.

Because in cases like the recent WPA2 exploit, the Pixel is getting the fixes next month, while Samsung devices will probably get delayed. It's a tradeoff - the screen isn't quite as nice but it's not noticeable to some people, while most people would agree the Pixel has the better camera. The Pixel definitely will be smoother as well, Ars had the GS8 running 1/4 the resolution of the OG Pixel and still lagging behind it in framerate. Depends on your priorities.

 

[VashHT]

I'm anxious to hear what people say about the screen on the xl, mine doesn't ship until Nov 20 so if it's really that bad I may cancel it. Most of reviews say it's not bad, the verge seems to complain about it the most which isn't too surprising to me. I'd probably just stick with my Pixel XL if it's really bad, the S8's are nice but I know I'd get annoyed being stuck on Samsung's update schedule and I don't really like how their cameras handle.low light.

 

[Oyeve]

I'm anxious to hear what people say about the screen on the xl, mine doesn't ship until Nov 20 so if it's really that bad I may cancel it. Most of reviews say it's not bad, the verge seems to complain about it the most which isn't too surprising to me. I'd probably just stick with my Pixel XL if it's really bad, the S8's are nice but I know I'd get annoyed being stuck on Samsung's update schedule and I don't really like how their cameras handle.low light.

Seriously? The cameras are the best in low light.

 

[VashHT]

I can't agree, my gf has a s8 and the colors come kind of weird in low light shots, like a yellowish tinit on them. The Pictures on my Pixel come out better in low light.

 

[Trader05]

There's a handful of 2 XL and OG XL screen comparison photos showing up twitter.

https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920826669690003456

This person says the cause for coloring being off is that Google enabled sRGB on by default.

And androidcentral
https://www.androidcentral.com/lets...tw_card&utm_content=63470&utm_campaign=social

 

[Red Storm]

So it's either the display has actual issues, or it's just people complaining that they don't like accurate colors (sRGB) after years of using oversaturated displays.

I'm leaning towards the latter.

These types of people seem to be the most vocal ones talking about it (taken from reddit discussion):

I couldn't care less about what's "accurate". I like what's pleasing to my eyes, and the Pixel 2 XL's colors are not. It appears that most people think the same too.

 

[sze5003]

If I remember correctly my Nexus 6 had a cooler display than my 6p and I didn't have any issues with it. The 6p is fine too but still on the cool side so I think it's subjective. Mine is on truck for delivery.

I have no idea if I will get it today because I had it shipped to my mother's since I'm moving. She probably won't be home and I cant have it held at a FedEx office. Interested to see how my screen will turn out.

 

[Red Storm]

Some mention it's because of the circular polarizer, it's made so that you can use the phone at all angles while wearing sunglasses. That sounds reasonable, but then some mention that phones like the S8 can do this as well. Looks like I'll be doing my own testing with my sunglasses and my brother's S8+, then the Pixel 2 XL when I eventually get mine.

 

[sze5003]

Well the Samsung screens have been in development longer so that would explain why they don't have this effect people are talking about. Not to mention since LG made the phone they weren't probably going to use super amoled from Samsung.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Fedex hasn't updated my tracking since yesterday. Hopefully, it's out for delivery. Can't remember if you need to be home for delivery or not. Want to bike to work now and bike right back when I get the delivery confirmation email.

 

[deathBOB]

iPhone screens use sRGB and I don't see anyone complaining about them being washed out.

Sounds like typical LG bullshit to me. Have they produced a class competitive screen for any of their recent high end phones?

 

[Red Storm]

iPhone screens use sRGB and I don't see anyone complaining about them being washed out.

Sounds like typical LG bullshit to me. Have they produced a class competitive screen for any of their recent high end phones?

Actually I see it all the time in the holy wars between Apple and Samsung die hard fans.

iPhones haven't had oversaturated colors as default (or even an option as far as I can recall) on their phones, so you don't have years of people being conditioned to it on Apple's platform.

Here's Artem Russakovskii (Android Police) talking about the display on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920833512286011392

Notice he goes from saying the Pixel 2 XL sucks, to realizing it is sRGB, and then enables sRGB on his original Pixel and saying it sucks too, and wonders why anyone would want colors like that. Getting conditioned to oversaturated colors will make accurate colors look bad.

I remember experiencing the same when I used to run my Samsung phones in Adaptive mode and then looking at a properly calibrated screen and feeling like everything looked washed out.

 

[Capt Caveman]

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-2-xl-display-problem-808501/

Looks like Google is going to push out display color options via software updates.

 

[sze5003]

Developer buddy got his today. Screen looks great I dunno what these reviewers were complaining about. Hopefully mine will be the same. It's different than the regular pixel by a bit. But I noticed no blotchiness, spots, or off colors spots, nor any grain.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Ugh, delivery of my phone got pushed til tomorrow.

 

[Imported]

I went to the Verizon store to check it out. Screen looked great to me and I didn't notice any graininess at 0%. My XL arrives middle of next week if Google's accurate with their forecasting.

 

[Anubis]

mine came today
screen is fine
pretty sure ive never run my screen below 25% anyway

the included USB C to headphone jack cable works fine
so does the one i stole from the bucket of unused cables at work (it came from a Essential phone)

ill test more tomorrow if we have any more at work

 

[sze5003]

Got mine today too. Setup was a breeze as I did it using the cables.

Speakers on this thing are awesome. Man they are pretty good although not bass heavy. If you put the phone down and walk away it actually fills with sound. Very nice.

The screen is fine but it is on the cold side. The 6p has a warmer pallette. I don't notice blue tint only if I go to odd angles and keep it on very low brightness. I kept my 6p on like 15 or 20% but on the XL 2 it needs to be a bit brighter. Once you set it a tiny bit up it's very hard to notice the tint except when turning it at odd angles.

It takes some getting used to because everything is cooler. I hear Google may do a software update to make the colors warmer.

My roommate notices the blue more than I do on his unit. But once I looked at it I didn't see it any more than I did on mine. Same cold color pallette too, only if you tilt it to extremes.

I feel like drenching it in water and laughing as it still works. I never had any type of waterproofing before.

Setup completed in like 10 minutes and everything transfered. It's also super freaking snappy. Switching between landscape and portrait mode in youtube happens instantly. I haven't played with the camera yet. Laucher is cool too and it changes to match the wallpaper so it's not all white like it was before.

It's just smooth as butter. Screen is fine for me but I could see how some people may not like it because of the coldness.

 

[Radeon962]

So it's either the display has actual issues, or it's just people complaining that they don't like accurate colors (sRGB) after years of using oversaturated displays.

I'm leaning towards the latter.

These types of people seem to be the most vocal ones talking about it (taken from reddit discussion):

From what I saw during my time with the XL it is the latter. It is more subdued than most may be accustomed to.